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Re: Strategy Shifts, and Learning Tools in General

Matt Faunce

7/8/2011 2:55:00 PM

You're being evasive, and I'm getting slightly annoyed. I've been writing quite a bit trying to explain my point of view and you counter with one liners. It seems--although I'll allow a little space for the possibility you are just very eccentric and never learned how to communicate with others--that you either don't know what you are talking about or that you are so arrogant that you don't think it's worth your time to explain your short quips.

> I think it says more about our psychology...

No explanation. Then you put "correct" in parenthesis, with no explanation.

> Nope, never met him.

No explanation for your use of the word rhetoric.

> Our "evolution" is not a simple rise to enlightenment.

Again, no explanation, which leaves me guessing, ex. "Does he agree with Kant that there is a transcendental gap between outside reality and perception? Is he an idealist? He did put the word 'correct' in parenthesis. Does this discount even the pragmatist's take on the word? Hmmmm."

Oh yeah, you prefer comedians to philosophers because comedians don't expect you to take them seriously. Never mind.

> I prefer comedians to philosophers - they don't expect me to take
them seriously.

Maybe you should take them seriously. It might help you organize your ideas and communicate them to others. You'd probably be able to develop them too.. Philosophers also help bring to light a-prioris you have which you don't even realize.

Matt
2 Answers

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7/8/2011 3:34:00 PM

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On Jul 8, 7:54 am, Matt Faunce <mattfau...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You're being evasive

No. I'm trying to be concise.

> and I'm getting slightly annoyed.

Because you believe my motives are somehow... bad, right?

> I've been writing quite a bit

Yes. You like to write a lot.

> you counter with one liners.

I'm more comedian than philosopher. You seem to be the other way
around.

> although I'll allow a little space for the possibility
> you are just very eccentric

Eccentric? Maybe. Very eccentric... nope.

> and never learned how to communicate with others

I communicate fine with those who really want to communicate and
don't distrust my motives.

> you either don't know what you are talking about

Probably, but like most of us I work with what I currently
understand knowing I'll learn later what a fool I am now.

> or that you are so arrogant that you don't
> think it's worth your time to explain your short quips.

A third possibility (excluded middle is not the only logic) may be
that I am trying to keep this from becoming a giant twisted mess of a
dialog with way too many diversions into ever less related ideas. Not
working well but I still have hope :-)

> No explanation. Then you put "correct" in parenthesis, with no explanation.

I don't explain my poems either.

> No explanation for your use of the word rhetoric.

It's... rhetoric, not logic. What else is there to say? If you want
logic then use the symbols not words... words that we define and
redefine until we don't remember what the original subject was.

> Again, no explanation, which leaves me guessing,

Try not using boxes to put me in.

>> I prefer comedians to philosophers -
>> they don't expect me to take them seriously.

> Maybe you should take them seriously.

Not going to happen, again. I did that when I was in high school.
Some things should not be followed to their logical conclusion.

> It might help you organize your ideas and communicate them to others.

I do that rather well, thank you. I even teach others how to think
logically so they can do their own maths.

> Philosophers also help bring to light a-prioris you have which you don't even realize.

I've probably read more philosophers than you and can even
understand the cube root trick. You might try assuming I'm not trying
to be evasive or hurt you in any way and that I have some
understanding of philosophy.

BTW, I can be equally annoying in person. It's not personal and
it's not something I'm likely to change but you don't need to get
annoyed just because our styles of communication are different.

Rogues Island's finest

12/20/2011 2:27:00 PM

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On Dec 19, 1:13 am, "sweetbac" <sweet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> He was misunderstood visionary.

He's dead?? I didn't even know he was IL!