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Re: OT: The last 20 Posts

Alain Reiher

5/31/2011 5:16:00 AM

On Monday, May 30, 2011 6:29:11 PM UTC-7, Slogoin wrote:
> On May 30, 8:52 pm, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > There is world of difference between
> > a well define quote that makes good
> > philosophical sense and the patience
> > required to help a student who has
> > difficulty learning how to pronounce
> > the sound of two vowels preceded by a consonance!
>
> In the middle of a classroom full of other students who each want
> and need individual attention, no less, eh?
>

Exactly! [;o)


> You can tell others what teaching in the classroom is like but they
> won't get it until they actually try it.

yep! I cannot add more to that ... except maybe that each teachers I have worked with have all a super collection of hats![;o) They wear them at an amazing pace each one of them has a specific role that comes with it, and they make the job look so easy ... my only hat off to them, they are magicians and masters of multitasking!


>It makes software engineering
> look like child's play.
>
> I hope Miguel tries it and gets hooked.

Yeah! I think Miguel would be good at it.


It can really drain a body
> to keep trying, finding hope and enthusiasm in a culture that sees
> teachers as just cogs in the machinery of industry. Most teachers burn
> out after five or so years of banging their heads against the
> education wall.

I don't know how the one I have been working with since 3 years have avoided the burn out pit fall ... I can say one thing though I surely feels lucky and grateful to have work with them in a classroom setting. All the teachers I have had the opportunity to work with have all been great mentors to me and ... my collection of hats is slowly expanding!
Nice to see you back Larry.

Alain

3 Answers

Slogoin

5/31/2011 11:36:00 AM

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On May 31, 1:15 am, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:

> I don't know how the one I have been working with
> since 3 years have avoided the burn out pit fall ...
> I can say one thing though I surely feels lucky and
> grateful to have work with them in a classroom setting.
> All the teachers I have had the opportunity to work
> with have all been great mentors to me and ...
> my collection of hats is slowly expanding!

Sadly there is no way to explain what goes on to those who have no
experience with the work. Also unfortunate is a culture that blames
educators and gives them no respect for the insanely difficult job
they do. Macho men think they have accomplished more as bankers or
lawyers than those who teach. How sad is that?

Miguel de Maria

5/31/2011 11:29:00 PM

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On May 31, 4:36 am, Slogoin <la...@deack.net> wrote:
> On May 31, 1:15 am, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > I don't know how the one I have been working with
> > since 3 years have avoided the burn out pit fall ...
> > I can say one thing though I surely feels lucky and
> > grateful to have work with them in a classroom setting.
> > All the teachers I have had the opportunity to work
> > with have all been great mentors to me and ...
> > my collection of hats is slowly expanding!
>
>   Sadly there is no way to explain what goes on to those who have no
> experience with the work. Also unfortunate is a culture that blames
> educators and gives them no respect for the insanely difficult job
> they do. Macho men think they have accomplished more as bankers or
> lawyers than those who teach. How sad is that?

Not a difficult, but impossible job. Hey, Larry, I just had an
idea.

If we agree that one of the major problems of a school teacher is he
is trying to give something (teaching) to someone who doesn't want it
(the kids and his parents), wouldn't being a private tutor be a better
way to change the world? Hang out a shingle in the 'hood or wherever
you are trying to help. The ones that come will be self-selected for
being more motivated. Of the ones you work with, you may find some
that are actually receptive to learning these all-important symbolic
languages in our society. Those are the ones you continue to work
with. Whether to charge or not is optional... And the bugaboo of
"classroom control" would be banished. What do you think?

Slogoin

6/1/2011

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On May 31, 7:29 pm, Miguel de Maria <elegantspanishgui...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Not a difficult, but impossible job.  Hey, Larry, I just had an
> idea.
>
> If we agree that one of the major problems of a school teacher is he
> is trying to give something (teaching) to someone who doesn't want it
> (the kids and his parents), wouldn't being a private tutor be a better
> way to change the world?

Private tutoring and teaching in the local school system are not
mutually exclusive.

> And the bugaboo of "classroom control" would be banished.

Group work is at the core of learning in schools. Classroom
management is not easy for many teachers and much time is spent trying
to understand how group dynamics work in the real world. If you can't
manage the group you won't get much done.

Teachers are learners, first.

>  What do you think?

I think your own education in education is missing the praxis side
of the equation and your theory is way out of balance. Just try it,
with an open mind... hey, it could be that you get addicted like some
of us looney educators who post to this NG.