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Re: OT: The last 20 Posts

Alain Reiher

5/31/2011 12:52:00 AM

These are all good quotes! it Seems like you are ready to jump into the Educator ban wagon! There is world of difference between a well define quote that makes good philosophical sense and the patience required to help a student who has difficulty learning how to pronounce the sound of two vowels preceded by a consonance!
One of the greatest function of school is to provide an environment for kids in which they learn to socialize. Respect for, oneself, others and the environment is an essential motto now a day.

Alain
3 Answers

Slogoin

5/31/2011 1:29:00 AM

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On May 30, 8:52 pm, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:

> There is world of difference between
> a well define quote that makes good
> philosophical sense and the patience
> required to help a student who has
> difficulty learning how to pronounce
> the sound of two vowels preceded by a consonance!

In the middle of a classroom full of other students who each want
and need individual attention, no less, eh?

You can tell others what teaching in the classroom is like but they
won't get it until they actually try it. It makes software engineering
look like child's play.

I hope Miguel tries it and gets hooked. It can really drain a body
to keep trying, finding hope and enthusiasm in a culture that sees
teachers as just cogs in the machinery of industry. Most teachers burn
out after five or so years of banging their heads against the
education wall.


Miguel de Maria

5/31/2011 5:46:00 AM

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On May 30, 6:29 pm, Slogoin <la...@deack.net> wrote:
> On May 30, 8:52 pm, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > There is world of difference between
> > a well define quote that makes good
> > philosophical sense and the patience
> > required to help a student who has
> > difficulty learning how to pronounce
> > the sound of two vowels preceded by a consonance!
>
>   In the middle of a classroom full of other students who each want
> and need individual attention, no less, eh?
>
>   You can tell others what teaching in the classroom is like but they
> won't get it until they actually try it. It makes software engineering
> look like child's play.
>
>    I hope Miguel tries it and gets hooked. It can really drain a body
> to keep trying, finding hope and enthusiasm in a culture that sees
> teachers as just cogs in the machinery of industry. Most teachers burn
> out after five or so years of banging their heads against the
> education wall.

Guys, I'm not in the least interested in teaching in a school. Those
places aren't made for learning. That's probably why teachers find it
nearly impossible to teach. And why a child would need to be taught
how to speak is a strange one for me. In my experience, they just
figure it out. Maybe if you teach someone something they could figure
out, they lose the ability to figure...

Now what is this socialization thing? That's when children are
segregated by age, fed bushels of half-truths and propaganda, made to
compete for grades and friends, taught to be a good consumer, taught
their family is unimportant, and exposed to drugs, fights, and seedy
popular culture? Hey, Alain, that's great, sign me up!

MeatmartUSA

6/3/2011 12:12:00 AM

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On May 30, 7:46 pm, Miguel de Maria <elegantspanishgui...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 30, 6:29 pm, Slogoin <la...@deack.net> wrote:
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> > On May 30, 8:52 pm, Biendoducedodièse <rei...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > There is world of difference between
> > > a well define quote that makes good
> > > philosophical sense and the patience
> > > required to help a student who has
> > > difficulty learning how to pronounce
> > > the sound of two vowels preceded by a consonance!
>
> >   In the middle of a classroom full of other students who each want
> > and need individual attention, no less, eh?
>
> >   You can tell others what teaching in the classroom is like but they
> > won't get it until they actually try it. It makes software engineering
> > look like child's play.
>
> >    I hope Miguel tries it and gets hooked. It can really drain a body
> > to keep trying, finding hope and enthusiasm in a culture that sees
> > teachers as just cogs in the machinery of industry. Most teachers burn
> > out after five or so years of banging their heads against the
> > education wall.
>
> Guys, I'm not in the least interested in teaching in a school.  Those
> places aren't made for learning.  That's probably why teachers find it
> nearly impossible to teach.  And why a child would need to be taught
> how to speak is a strange one for me.  In my experience, they just
> figure it out.  Maybe if you teach someone something they could figure
> out, they lose the ability to figure...
>
> Now what is this socialization thing?  That's when children are
> segregated by age, fed bushels of half-truths and propaganda, made to
> compete for grades and friends, taught to be a good consumer, taught
> their family is unimportant, and exposed to drugs, fights, and seedy
> popular culture?  Hey, Alain, that's great, sign me up!

Both of my sons were extensively tested by the school system at the
elementary grade level. They were testing at high school levels in
vocabulary among other things when they were 8 or so. It's a mystery
to me why they turned out that way but I do know that most of the
people they associated with were adults. They didn't have very many
playmates their age to interact with and neither my wife or I ever
talked down to them. Heck, I sometimes forgot that they were my sons
and treated them as brothers.

I'm not willing to say that this was the reason for their advanced
level in language but it could be a factor. I mean, most the stuff I
learned from my friend was mostly the stupidest of things. Come to
think of it, that's still true today. :-)