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anonanonanon15

4/4/2008 7:48:00 AM

> OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> destroy their religion.

Are you mad? No one should want to destroy the 'religion' - that idea
is as retarded as the cult thinking they can destroy all their
critics.

It's not the kooky beliefs but the corrupt organization that's the
problem. Now is the time to dismantle the church of scientology in
its present form - its followers can go on believing whatever they
damn well want to, as long as they don't engage in such things as
'disconnection' of family members, 'fair gaming' to harrass/destroy
the lives of critics, exploitation and manipulation of members and
wogs alike, tax breaks in spite of behaving like a business charging
ridiculous sums, etc.

zeeorger

4/4/2008 8:32:00 AM

On Apr 4, 12:48 am, anonanonanon15 <anonanonano...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> > destroy their religion.
>
> Are you mad? No one should want to destroy the 'religion' - that idea
> is as retarded as the cult thinking they can destroy all their
> critics.
>

Dismantle sounds more appropriate.

> It's not the kooky beliefs but the corrupt organization that's the
> problem. Now is the time to dismantle the church of scientology in
> its present form - its followers can go on believing whatever they
> damn well want to, as long as they don't engage in such things as
> 'disconnection' of family members, 'fair gaming' to harrass/destroy
> the lives of critics, exploitation and manipulation of members and
> wogs alike, tax breaks in spite of behaving like a business charging
> ridiculous sums, etc.

It is very difficult to separate the scientology belief
system from its corruption. It is easier to say what
the belief system is and then dump the rest.

From a purely theological viewpoint, scientology believes
that what makes you "you" is that you are a spiritual being
inhabiting a body. That "you" exist over endless lifetimes.
And, in theory, you have accumulated many losses over multiple
lifetimes over many eons, which is why you are totally screwed
up. It is also believed possible to get over your losses and
thereby recover your "native state" as a spiritual being and
become an "operating thetan" (more god like).

There you have it! The totality of scientology's religious
belief system. Just about everything else under "scientology"
is a bunch of specious corrupting lies.

z

phil scott

4/4/2008 9:04:00 AM

On Apr 4, 1:31 am, zeeorger <zeeor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:48 am, anonanonanon15 <anonanonano...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> > > destroy their religion.
>
> > Are you mad? No one should want to destroy the 'religion' - that idea
> > is as retarded as the cult thinking they can destroy all their
> > critics.
>
> Dismantle sounds more appropriate.
>
> > It's not the kooky beliefs but the corrupt organization that's the
> > problem. Now is the time to dismantle the church of scientology in
> > its present form - its followers can go on believing whatever they
> > damn well want to, as long as they don't engage in such things as
> > 'disconnection' of family members, 'fair gaming' to harrass/destroy
> > the lives of critics, exploitation and manipulation of members and
> > wogs alike, tax breaks in spite of behaving like a business charging
> > ridiculous sums, etc.
>
> It is very difficult to separate the scientology belief
> system from its corruption. It is easier to say what
> the belief system is and then dump the rest.
>
> From a purely theological viewpoint, scientology believes
> that what makes you "you" is that you are a spiritual being
> inhabiting a body. That "you" exist over endless lifetimes.
> And, in theory, you have accumulated many losses over multiple
> lifetimes over many eons, which is why you are totally screwed
> up. It is also believed possible to get over your losses and
> thereby recover your "native state" as a spiritual being and
> become an "operating thetan" (more god like).
>
> There you have it! The totality of scientology's religious
> belief system. Just about everything else under "scientology"
> is a bunch of specious corrupting lies.
>
> z

dang.... that was clean z....

I would say that its not all deliberate lies of course... but fatal
error founded on hubbards ruthlessly corrupt narcisticism...no good
comes from that entire fiasco, regardless how brilliant it sounds,

the flaw is at the core, not always visible on the surface... thats
glossy...it appeals to the egocentric aspects of people...with
entirely fatal results.

Phil scott

jonathon8008

4/4/2008 10:19:00 AM

On Apr 3, 10:44 pm, RolandRB <rolandbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 6:54 am, "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com" <chuckbeatt...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Chuck,
>
> > ... Here is what I remember about OSA:
>
> > (note: ....Many of the OSA crowd were transferred into ABLE Int, ILO
> > (Int Liaison Org, middle management's current euphemistic shore story
> > label), WISE for a huge downsizing. The downsizing occurred over the
> > past two years at the order of DM who was "revising" management and
> > specifically OSA was horrifically downsized to the point of inability
> > to function as they had done in the past, e.g., pestering and
> > tormenting those who had left. Now, the dirty work is left to people
> > like Jenny (DeVocht) Linsen (sp?) and Angie Blankenship as in their
> > visit to Jennifer Miscavige-Hill.)
>
> > CO OSA - Linda Hamel (Invest Aide HFA)
> > Kathy O'Gorman - Data Chief
> > Tom Whittle - Freedom Editor/Writer
> > Acky Heinrich - PR
> > Joan Long - External Estab
> > Karin Pouw - PR Aide
> > Ed Parkin - VP (now a PR and out of Legal)
> > Bob Adams OSA, VP PR something
> > Charlie Earl - Invest
> > Jim Morrow - Legal Aide
> > Judy Ross - External DSA Programs
> > Jeanne Gavigan - Litigation (she's a real attorney)
> > Nora (french name?) - MAA for OSA
> > Celine Muir - french girl - Dir I&R
> > Lynn Farney - Internet PR and does all DA's for anything
> > Jean Callaghan - holds reception
> > Steffano Beccaccini - External Comm functions, still does driving up-
> > lines for delivery, etc.
> > Wendy Beccaccini - PR
> > Beth Bond - Treasury functions
>
> > These are the guys I can remember for now. Iif there are more names
> > brought up, I can identify them.
> > There are also guys who have been sent to EU, like Carl Heldt who went
> > with his wife, Andrea Heldt when she was ordered to stay at NEPI so
> > Carl is either the Legal Aide EU or CO OSA EU, I don't know which.
> > Routed out is Maddie Hooper (went with her husband, he now works for
> > Atkinson/Baker) Sue Lerner Becky Hayes Help me with names and I can
> > identify these guys. Hope this helps.
>
> > Best ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> destroy their religion.

Stop targeting my religion. Protest the church if you must, but stop
attacking my religion.

jonathon8008

4/4/2008 10:21:00 AM

RolandRB

4/4/2008 11:01:00 AM

On Apr 4, 9:48 am, anonanonanon15 <anonanonano...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> > destroy their religion.
>
> Are you mad? No one should want to destroy the 'religion' - that idea
> is as retarded as the cult thinking they can destroy all their
> critics.
>
> It's not the kooky beliefs but the corrupt organization that's the
> problem. Now is the time to dismantle the church of scientology in
> its present form - its followers can go on believing whatever they
> damn well want to, as long as they don't engage in such things as
> 'disconnection' of family members, 'fair gaming' to harrass/destroy
> the lives of critics, exploitation and manipulation of members and
> wogs alike, tax breaks in spite of behaving like a business charging
> ridiculous sums, etc.

You don't know enough about Scientology yet. The Scientology religion
has Hubbard evil through it right to the core. At its core, it is a
hypnotic brainwashing cult whose only purpose if to bilk the marks of
every penny they have and can borrow with no regard for their well-
being. In fact, the deception and the destruction of the adherent
could be regarded as the aim of the "religion".

One day you will understand that.

Remember this - Scientology is WORSE than you think.

And when you have thought of how bad it is...... then you have got it
wrong. And why? Because it is worse than you thought you thought it
was.

This is one religion that NEEDS to be DESTROYED.

(stars please)

FreeThinker

4/4/2008 11:23:00 AM

On Apr 4, 5:20 am, jonathon8...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:48 am, anonanonanon15 <anonanonano...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> > > destroy their religion.
>
> > Are you mad? No one should want to destroy the 'religion' - that idea
> > is as retarded as the cult thinking they can destroy all their
> > critics.
>
> > It's not the kooky beliefs but the corrupt organization that's the
> > problem. Now is the time to dismantle the church of scientology in
> > its present form - its followers can go on believing whatever they
> > damn well want to, as long as they don't engage in such things as
> > 'disconnection' of family members, 'fair gaming' to harrass/destroy
> > the lives of critics, exploitation and manipulation of members and
> > wogs alike, tax breaks in spite of behaving like a business charging
> > ridiculous sums, etc.
>
> You are a minority. Most members of Anonymous and ARSCC want to target
> the entire religion of Scientology. The claims of social activism are
> nothing more than a charade.

No I have to disagree with this. Where are you getting your
information? If you were to lurk more at places like enturbulation
and really read what is said then you'd see that while yeah they
probably do make fun of your religion they in no way are calling for
the destruction of said religion. There are thousands of members over
there so I think that is a pretty fair slice of Project chanology.

scientology_is_a_scam

4/4/2008 12:18:00 PM

On Apr 3, 10:44 pm, RolandRB <rolandbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 6:54 am, "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com" <chuckbeatt...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear Chuck,
>
> > ... Here is what I remember about OSA:
>
> > (note: ....Many of the OSA crowd were transferred into ABLE Int, ILO
> > (Int Liaison Org, middle management's current euphemistic shore story
> > label), WISE for a huge downsizing. The downsizing occurred over the
> > past two years at the order of DM who was "revising" management and
> > specifically OSA was horrifically downsized to the point of inability
> > to function as they had done in the past, e.g., pestering and
> > tormenting those who had left. Now, the dirty work is left to people
> > like Jenny (DeVocht) Linsen (sp?) and Angie Blankenship as in their
> > visit to Jennifer Miscavige-Hill.)
>
> > CO OSA - Linda Hamel (Invest Aide HFA)
> > Kathy O'Gorman - Data Chief
> > Tom Whittle - Freedom Editor/Writer
> > Acky Heinrich - PR
> > Joan Long - External Estab
> > Karin Pouw - PR Aide
> > Ed Parkin - VP (now a PR and out of Legal)
> > Bob Adams OSA, VP PR something
> > Charlie Earl - Invest
> > Jim Morrow - Legal Aide
> > Judy Ross - External DSA Programs
> > Jeanne Gavigan - Litigation (she's a real attorney)
> > Nora (french name?) - MAA for OSA
> > Celine Muir - french girl - Dir I&R
> > Lynn Farney - Internet PR and does all DA's for anything
> > Jean Callaghan - holds reception
> > Steffano Beccaccini - External Comm functions, still does driving up-
> > lines for delivery, etc.
> > Wendy Beccaccini - PR
> > Beth Bond - Treasury functions
>
> > These are the guys I can remember for now. Iif there are more names
> > brought up, I can identify them.
> > There are also guys who have been sent to EU, like Carl Heldt who went
> > with his wife, Andrea Heldt when she was ordered to stay at NEPI so
> > Carl is either the Legal Aide EU or CO OSA EU, I don't know which.
> > Routed out is Maddie Hooper (went with her husband, he now works for
> > Atkinson/Baker) Sue Lerner Becky Hayes Help me with names and I can
> > identify these guys. Hope this helps.
>
> > Best ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> destroy their religion.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Now is the time to destroy their cult

phil scott

4/4/2008 5:33:00 PM

On Apr 4, 3:19 am, jonathon8...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 3, 10:44 pm, RolandRB <rolandbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 6:54 am, "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com" <chuckbeatt...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Dear Chuck,
>
> > > ... Here is what I remember about OSA:
>
> > > (note: ....Many of the OSA crowd were transferred into ABLE Int, ILO
> > > (Int Liaison Org, middle management's current euphemistic shore story
> > > label), WISE for a huge downsizing. The downsizing occurred over the
> > > past two years at the order of DM who was "revising" management and
> > > specifically OSA was horrifically downsized to the point of inability
> > > to function as they had done in the past, e.g., pestering and
> > > tormenting those who had left. Now, the dirty work is left to people
> > > like Jenny (DeVocht) Linsen (sp?) and Angie Blankenship as in their
> > > visit to Jennifer Miscavige-Hill.)
>
> > > CO OSA - Linda Hamel (Invest Aide HFA)
> > > Kathy O'Gorman - Data Chief
> > > Tom Whittle - Freedom Editor/Writer
> > > Acky Heinrich - PR
> > > Joan Long - External Estab
> > > Karin Pouw - PR Aide
> > > Ed Parkin - VP (now a PR and out of Legal)
> > > Bob Adams OSA, VP PR something
> > > Charlie Earl - Invest
> > > Jim Morrow - Legal Aide
> > > Judy Ross - External DSA Programs
> > > Jeanne Gavigan - Litigation (she's a real attorney)
> > > Nora (french name?) - MAA for OSA
> > > Celine Muir - french girl - Dir I&R
> > > Lynn Farney - Internet PR and does all DA's for anything
> > > Jean Callaghan - holds reception
> > > Steffano Beccaccini - External Comm functions, still does driving up-
> > > lines for delivery, etc.
> > > Wendy Beccaccini - PR
> > > Beth Bond - Treasury functions
>
> > > These are the guys I can remember for now. Iif there are more names
> > > brought up, I can identify them.
> > > There are also guys who have been sent to EU, like Carl Heldt who went
> > > with his wife, Andrea Heldt when she was ordered to stay at NEPI so
> > > Carl is either the Legal Aide EU or CO OSA EU, I don't know which.
> > > Routed out is Maddie Hooper (went with her husband, he now works for
> > > Atkinson/Baker) Sue Lerner Becky Hayes Help me with names and I can
> > > identify these guys. Hope this helps.
>
> > > Best ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> > OSA is weak. Scientology is vulnerable. Now is the time to attack and
> > destroy their religion.
>
> Stop targeting my religion. Protest the church if you must, but stop
> attacking my religion.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

criticism and expose is not attack moron.....its the american way,
called free speech, helps prevent insane cults from ruining lives.

Phil Scott

smith.jeff28

4/4/2008 5:54:00 PM

"It is very difficult to separate the scientology belief
system from its corruption. It is easier to say what
the belief system is and then dump the rest."

I would say not possible. LRH put the corruption himself in the the
religion, and DM learned well from him.

You see, without the corruption it will fall apart, once it becomes
understood that it if based on SiFi fairy tales.
This is why LRH created these policy, knowing that any sane person
would not pay for that silliness.
Once ex-members feel even more free to tell the truth, it will all
seem like a bad joke.

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