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Sor Sunday- Thirds and sixths

Douglas Seth

5/29/2011 3:50:00 PM

Hello,
Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
the guitar. Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
97 Answers

matanyao@gmail.com

5/29/2011 4:48:00 PM

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On May 29, 11:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss

Difficult to say why modern methods do anything. But it is important
to note that Sor's theory of 3rds and 6ths is a term he had invented
in order to avoid discussing pedagogy in terms of music theory
terminology. In practice, it is exactly the same as any method that
attempts to teach fingerboard harmony.

MO.

Che

5/29/2011 8:33:00 PM

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On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss

How modern is Tommy Tedesco? His books and writings are very
interesting.

folios3@yahoo.com

5/29/2011 8:39:00 PM

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On May 29, 4:33 pm, Che <Comanchetr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> > the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> > of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
>
> How modern is Tommy Tedesco?  His books and writings are very
> interesting.

George Van Eps,too

matanyao@gmail.com

5/29/2011 8:44:00 PM

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On May 29, 4:38 pm, "foli...@yahoo.com" <foli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:33 pm, Che <Comanchetr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
> > > Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> > > the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> > > of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
>
> > How modern is Tommy Tedesco?  His books and writings are very
> > interesting.
>
> George Van Eps,too

And Richard Pick who was greatly influenced by Van Eps.

MO.

folios3@yahoo.com

5/29/2011 8:50:00 PM

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On May 29, 4:44 pm, "matan...@gmail.com" <matan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, "foli...@yahoo.com" <foli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 29, 4:33 pm, Che <Comanchetr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> > > > the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> > > > of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
>
> > > How modern is Tommy Tedesco?  His books and writings are very
> > > interesting.
>
> > George Van Eps,too
>
> And Richard Pick who was greatly influenced by Van Eps.
>
> MO.

Yes Richard Pick, too,whose unfortunate name must be forgiven : )

matanyao@gmail.com

5/29/2011 8:55:00 PM

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On May 29, 4:50 pm, "foli...@yahoo.com" <foli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:44 pm, "matan...@gmail.com" <matan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 4:38 pm, "foli...@yahoo.com" <foli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 29, 4:33 pm, Che <Comanchetr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> > > > > the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> > > > > of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
>
> > > > How modern is Tommy Tedesco?  His books and writings are very
> > > > interesting.
>
> > > George Van Eps,too
>
> > And Richard Pick who was greatly influenced by Van Eps.
>
> > MO.
>
> Yes Richard Pick, too,whose unfortunate name must be forgiven : )

Sure is better than Richard Plectrum, which was the term he used...:-)

MO.

Che

5/29/2011 9:02:00 PM

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On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss

Interesting technical point It's exactly when we begin double-stops,
intervals, that we need to know how to effectively use the arm, hand
and fingers for fretboard presentations. Once you've learned how to
use your left hand effectively, in intervals, chords come easier,
don't you think.

dsi1

5/29/2011 9:41:00 PM

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On 5/29/2011 10:33 AM, Che wrote:
> How modern is Tommy Tedesco? His books and writings are very
> interesting.

I love that guy. His column in Guitar Player magazine was the only one
that I always read. His down-to-earth approach to his profession and
music had a big effect on me. God bless him! :-)

http://www.wreckingcre...

Che

5/29/2011 9:52:00 PM

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On May 29, 4:40 pm, dsi1 <d...@usenet-news.net> wrote:
> On 5/29/2011 10:33 AM, Che wrote:
>
> > How modern is Tommy Tedesco?  His books and writings are very
> > interesting.
>
> I love that guy. His column in Guitar Player magazine was the only one
> that I always read. His down-to-earth approach to his profession and
> music had a big effect on me. God bless him! :-)
>
> http://www.wreckingcre...

This Tedesco stressed 3rds. and sixths. Yep, plain speaking and down-
to-earth good advise.

Douglas Seth

5/29/2011 11:19:00 PM

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On May 29, 5:02 pm, Che <Comanchetr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 10:50 am, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Sor believed the study of 3rds and 6ths are necessary for mastery of
> > the guitar.  Why do so many modern methods fail to address the study
> > of 3rds and 6ths? Discuss
>
> Interesting technical point It's exactly when we begin double-stops,
> intervals, that we need to know how to effectively use the arm, hand
> and fingers for fretboard presentations.  Once you've learned how to
> use your left hand effectively, in intervals, chords come easier,
> don't you think.

Yes, another important aspect of studying these intervals is shifting
(ie. Sor #12, Segovia ed.). Paying attention to the left hand thumb
while shifting is neglected by many players. Sor called the LH thumb
the "rudder" of the LH didn't he?