Eldon
3/24/2008 1:39:00 PM
On Mar 24, 2:11 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 8:18 pm, zeeorger <zeeor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 23, 12:43 pm, phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 23, 11:12 am, Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 23, 12:30 pm, phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 23, 2:57 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 23, 10:07 am, Tom N <simpleman....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > smith.jef...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > Watch this dvd, then what I have to say will make sense.
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> > > > > > > Be the first time ever.
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> > > > > > > > The chumps
> > > > > > > > will send it to you for free.
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> > > > > > > Really? Then why are you always going on about how much
> > > > > > > Scientology costs?
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> > > > > > > How they be bad guys when they charge and chumps when they don't?
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> > > > > > > Can you tie your own shoes?
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> > > > > > > > If this is true, then how come LRH, mister know it all, never noticed
> > > > > > > > that ALL his books were wrong?
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> > > > > > > Says who? YOU? You are obviously an idiot.
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> > > > > > > > So wrong, that according to David the tech was LOST!
> > > > > > > > He says it was so scrambled that even the smartest OT could not
> > > > > > > > understand it.
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> > > > > > > So one person says that and its true?
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> > > > > > > You really are a fool.
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> > > > > > > > How did it ever work then?????
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> > > > > > > You wouldn't understand the answer to that question.
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> > > > > > > > How is it that all these OT's with jacked up IQ's never noticed?
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> > > > > > > They never noticed because what you are talking about is bullshit.
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> > > > > > > > LRH had almost 30 years to review this material and he never had a
> > > > > > > > clue?
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> > > > > > > You are the one who doesn't have a clue.
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> > > > > > > But who needs a clue when you have a mouth as big as the grand
> > > > > > > canyon?
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> > > > > > > > The Super Power OT's had the better part of 50 years, and since IQ
> > > > > > > > goes up one point
> > > > > > > > for each hour of auditing, them must have IQ' up like 3000 or so.
> > > > > > > > And they never even noticed?????
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> > > > > > > Never noticed what an idiot troll posted on some newsgroup populated
> > > > > > > by dimwit dickless fanatics?
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> > > > > > > > Bottom line:
> > > > > > > > Gold Age of Knowledge = Golden age of MARKETING.
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> > > > > > > Of course. Because you say so. Even though you are obviously
> > > > > > > an ignorant fool.
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> > > > > > > > It's only 4500.00 for the complete set!
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> > > > > > > So? Like any other organization, they can charge what they want.
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> > > > > > > What do you care what the price of something that you believe to be
> > > > > > > garbage is? (even though you've obviously never even looked at
> > > > > > > a fraction of it)
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> > > > > > > Have you ever considered seeking professional help?
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> > > > > > Sure, Tom -- if I thought I needed it, or enough people I trusted
> > > > > > recommended I do it. I certainly have no problem with psychiatrists in
> > > > > > general.
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> > > > > > Have you ever considered seeking professional help yourself? (Outside
> > > > > > Scientology, which is not professional anyway.) Hmmm?
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> > > > > > I think it would be a good idea for you to do that, just in case your
> > > > > > brain chemicals are a bit unbalanced.
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> > > > > > > Tom Newton- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > eldon, i think that once yer brain is fried in scientology the issue
> > > > > goes way way beyond a chemical imbalance sort of issue.... its like
> > > > > completely ph*cked.... tbrain structure destroyed or snarled up
> > > > > physically with lies and various misdirections.
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> > > > > Phil Scott- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > but.... truth seems to help straighten it out, in doses a bit at a
> > > > time or all at once. The internet IS the liberty tree!- Hide quoted text -
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> > > yes, truth cures all, I was being a bit too loose with my remark that
> > > only applies to a minority. In my case though, after 25 years out of
> > > scn, I still find myself operating on more than few of hubbards bogus
> > > notions..its not been a good thanng. Others like Tory dump the whole
> > > load much faster.
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> > > Phil Scott
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> > From experience I tend to favor the "core dump - reboot" method.
> > My short association with the freezone disabused me of the idea
> > that cutting the fat from the lean had any greater merit than
> > just starting over.
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> > In simpler terms, it was more correct to assume that everything
> > in scientology (what they published or stated) was FALSE and
> > then find the bits that might be true, than to assume it was all
> > (relatively) true and then exclude what was false.
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> > Both methods are problematic. On the one hand one's confidence
> > is shaken from constant erosion of stable data. One the other
> > hand a full core-dump cuts out a lot bull and with it some healthy
> > mental associations between items. This last is due in part by the
> > method by which LRH tricked one's mind. Some Truths, a lot of half
> > truths followed by total nonsense.
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> > For example it may be true that an anti-social (criminal) mind
> > has certain characteristics, but the link between an anti-social
> > and an anti-scientologists is faulty ... dumping the whole lot
> > cures the linkage between SP (opposed to scientology) and true
> > criminals (real SPs), but also leaves out established pre-existing
> > patterns of association of what makes a person good or bad ... the
> > end result, to some degree, is having to recover/re-establish/learn
> > what is and is not true, what will and will not work.
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> Good points. IMHO, The reeducation process is well worth it.
All of the above are good points, up to Tom's weird posts. He really
is pretty addled and irrational. Far more than I ever was.