Usa Forum - 70 Motes of Harmony for a Crane Staff

Orion Ryder

11/3/2012 1:49:00 PM

Yeah 70.

And this is needed by an alt and I am sure I am not the only one that has to have a Scribe alt farm the mats for the staff, or one of the other high level BoA staffs.

An alternative is to find the 20 mote staff for sale on the AH and then only 50 motes will be needed but I doubt that is going to happen unless someone has a scribe plate wearer that might make those staffs and sell them. It takes many hours to farm 20 motes so a staff like that would have to cost a pretty bucket of gold.

And despite rumors I heard that Blizz is thinking of making the motes of harmony BoA I have not seen any blue posts on the forums so it looks like it is going to be Farmville in the Land of WoW.

The logic supposedly is that by making them BoP it places value on them. What that value is I have no idea seeing as how one cannot sell them the idea of value is meaningless. If someone has a two profession gatherer there is not much they can do with these except trade them for what appears to be items of not so sturdy value from what I hear.

So my Scribe alt has 21 motes so far is 46% through level 87 and I actually had no intention of playing this alt but seing as how the Crane Staff is top notch for a healer I ahve to get it for my main who is a healer.

I can see it now where my wife and I are continuously mailing it to one another to use as she sometimes likes to heal with her druid. I dread the thought of her asking me for one of her own. Farming motes for one will be time consuming let alone farming the motes for two. But then again for the love of a woman many things ofttimes get accomplished.

OH! OH! OH!

Orion

11 Answers

Catriona R

11/3/2012 2:31:00 PM

On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:48:57 -0700 (PDT), orionryder@hotmail.com wrote:

>Yeah 70.
>
>And this is needed by an alt and I am sure I am not the only one that has to have a Scribe alt farm the mats for the staff, or one of the other high level BoA staffs.
>
>An alternative is to find the 20 mote staff for sale on the AH and then only 50 motes will be needed but I doubt that is going to happen unless someone has a scribe plate wearer that might make those staffs and sell them. It takes many hours to farm 20 motes so a staff like that would have to cost a pretty bucket of gold.

I'm not keen on the motes for crafting stuff, it's annoying, and like
you, my scribe is only an alt. By the time I've levelled her enough to
get the motes for the staff, my main will have got better from raid
finder frankly! I think I'm more likely to aim at making the agility
staff for my druid, since I may actually still have some use for that
if/when I level my scribe...

>And despite rumors I heard that Blizz is thinking of making the motes of harmony BoA I have not seen any blue posts on the forums so it looks like it is going to be Farmville in the Land of WoW.
>
>The logic supposedly is that by making them BoP it places value on them. What that value is I have no idea seeing as how one cannot sell them the idea of value is meaningless. If someone has a two profession gatherer there is not much they can do with these except trade them for what appears to be items of not so sturdy value from what I hear.

Yeah, for the non-BoA items I kinda get it but for ones that can only
be used on your own account it just sucks. And as a jewelcrafter on my
main I can't say I have a great use for my motes that drop - selling
pets makes cash, ok, but still... it feels kinda pointless.

>So my Scribe alt has 21 motes so far is 46% through level 87 and I actually had no intention of playing this alt but seing as how the Crane Staff is top notch for a healer I ahve to get it for my main who is a healer.
>
>I can see it now where my wife and I are continuously mailing it to one another to use as she sometimes likes to heal with her druid. I dread the thought of her asking me for one of her own. Farming motes for one will be time consuming let alone farming the motes for two. But then again for the love of a woman many things ofttimes get accomplished.

One thing I can suggest: If you get your scribe to lvl 90, work on
your Tillers rep and farm - at revered, you can buy Songbell Seed,
which grows into 1 mote. On a fullsize farm, that's 16 motes per day,
far better than farming mobs :-) Only downside is you have to be 90 to
gain rep after you finish questing in Valley of Four Winds, so that's
a pain, but if you reach 90 anyway it's worthwhile. Just annoying for
me that the characters who most need motes for crafting aren't the
ones I was planning to level first...

steve.kaye

11/5/2012 8:40:00 AM

petertrei

11/5/2012 9:19:00 PM

On Nov 3, 8:48 am, orionry...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> The logic supposedly is that by making them BoP it places value on them.
> What that value is I have no idea seeing as how one cannot sell them the idea
> of value is meaningless. If someone has a two profession gatherer there is not much
> they can do with these except trade them for what appears to be items of not so
> sturdy value from what I hear.

If you convert 10 motes to a Spirit of Harmony, you can trade those
for a number of items. The one
that catches my eye (with an alchemist main) is Golden Lotus x3. This
is a requirement for all
flasks, and GL goes for about 150g a pop on my server. This makes each
mote worth about 45g,
which isn't too shabby.

GL spawn rates are abysmally low, so this conversion is the main
source.

pt

Orion Ryder

11/6/2012 11:23:00 AM

On Monday, November 5, 2012 4:18:54 PM UTC-5, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On Nov 3, 8:48 am, orionry...@hotmail.com wrote: > > The logic supposedly is that by making them BoP it places value on them. > What that value is I have no idea seeing as how one cannot sell them the idea > of value is meaningless. If someone has a two profession gatherer there is not much > they can do with these except trade them for what appears to be items of not so > sturdy value from what I hear. If you convert 10 motes to a Spirit of Harmony, you can trade those for a number of items. The one that catches my eye (with an alchemist main) is Golden Lotus x3. This is a requirement for all flasks, and GL goes for about 150g a pop on my server. This makes each mote worth about 45g, which isn't too shabby. GL spawn rates are abysmally low, so this conversion is the main source. pt

Thanks, I noticed I don't get much Lotus so I will keep this in mind down the road

Orion Ryder

11/6/2012 11:25:00 AM

On Monday, November 5, 2012 3:40:06 AM UTC-5, steve.kaye wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:48:57 -0700 (PDT), orionryder@hotmail.com wrote: >Yeah 70. > >And this is needed by an alt and I am sure I am not the only one that has to have a Scribe alt farm the mats for the staff, or one of the other high level BoA staffs. > >An alternative is to find the 20 mote staff for sale on the AH and then only 50 motes will be needed but I doubt that is going to happen unless someone has a scribe plate wearer that might make those staffs and sell them. It takes many hours to farm 20 motes so a staff like that would have to cost a pretty bucket of gold. It doesn't take many hours to farm 20 motes. I farmed 50 or 60 motes to buy a set of PvP Blacksmithing Recipes with my level 88 Paladin in no more than three hours (I'd guess that I spent an hour a night for three nights) This creature http://www.wowhead.com... has low health, fast respawn rate and about 9% chance of dropping a mote. There are three groups of 8 or 10 of them (under snow piles) with some individual ones between the groups. By the time that I'd cleaned out the third group, the first had respawned so I could start again. My Paladin is 88 and Protection so it might not go so smoothly if you can kill the packs quickly but it was perfect for him. steve.kaye -- Kibbs, 90 Paladin Mingan, 85 Shaman Belugar, 76 Warrior Jelan, 85 Priest Clokk, 85 Druid Yopp, 73 Hunter Miho, 85 Rogue Jengu, 85 Death Knight Aloola, 72 Mage Ravenholdt-EU (Horde) Jaille, 85 Warlock Suezuha, 20 Monk

Interesting that this drops motes more often. These are in the cave up that way. I will ber in there this week so I will test out the numbers and stick around for some more kills.

Thanks

Orion

Orion Ryder

11/6/2012 11:27:00 AM

On Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:30:49 AM UTC-4, Catriona R wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:48:57 -0700 (PDT), orionryder@hotmail.com wrote: >Yeah 70. > >And this is needed by an alt and I am sure I am not the only one that has to have a Scribe alt farm the mats for the staff, or one of the other high level BoA staffs. > >An alternative is to find the 20 mote staff for sale on the AH and then only 50 motes will be needed but I doubt that is going to happen unless someone has a scribe plate wearer that might make those staffs and sell them. It takes many hours to farm 20 motes so a staff like that would have to cost a pretty bucket of gold. I'm not keen on the motes for crafting stuff, it's annoying, and like you, my scribe is only an alt. By the time I've levelled her enough to get the motes for the staff, my main will have got better from raid finder frankly! I think I'm more likely to aim at making the agility staff for my druid, since I may actually still have some use for that if/when I level my scribe... >And despite rumors I heard that Blizz is thinking of making the motes of harmony BoA I have not seen any blue posts on the forums so it looks like it is going to be Farmville in the Land of WoW. > >The logic supposedly is that by making them BoP it places value on them. What that value is I have no idea seeing as how one cannot sell them the idea of value is meaningless. If someone has a two profession gatherer there is not much they can do with these except trade them for what appears to be items of not so sturdy value from what I hear.. Yeah, for the non-BoA items I kinda get it but for ones that can only be used on your own account it just sucks. And as a jewelcrafter on my main I can't say I have a great use for my motes that drop - selling pets makes cash, ok, but still... it feels kinda pointless. >So my Scribe alt has 21 motes so far is 46% through level 87 and I actually had no intention of playing this alt but seing as how the Crane Staff is top notch for a healer I ahve to get it for my main who is a healer. > >I can see it now where my wife and I are continuously mailing it to one another to use as she sometimes likes to heal with her druid. I dread the thought of her asking me for one of her own. Farming motes for one will be time consuming let alone farming the motes for two. But then again for the love of a woman many things ofttimes get accomplished. One thing I can suggest: If you get your scribe to lvl 90, work on your Tillers rep and farm - at revered, you can buy Songbell Seed, which grows into 1 mote. On a fullsize farm, that's 16 motes per day, far better than farming mobs :-) Only downside is you have to be 90 to gain rep after you finish questing in Valley of Four Winds, so that's a pain, but if you reach 90 anyway it's worthwhile. Just annoying for me that the characters who most need motes for crafting aren't the ones I was planning to level first...

Thanks for the info about farming. I thought the idea of farming here was literally farming and had no idea that it was farming for items.

With all the family toons we have theoretically we could get 224 patches of soil if all of our 85s got to 90.

Not that I want to spend that much time leveling all the family toons with my sons. But like I said... in theory.

Orion

Fvert

11/6/2012 3:22:00 PM

In article <afko4nF7550U1@mid.individual.net>,
Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> One thing I can suggest: If you get your scribe to lvl 90, work on
> your Tillers rep and farm - at revered, you can buy Songbell Seed,
> which grows into 1 mote. On a fullsize farm, that's 16 motes per day,
> far better than farming mobs :-) Only downside is you have to be 90 to
> gain rep after you finish questing in Valley of Four Winds, so that's
> a pain, but if you reach 90 anyway it's worthwhile. Just annoying for
> me that the characters who most need motes for crafting aren't the
> ones I was planning to level first...

When I needed Windwool cloth to make my daily silk cloth on the cooldown
I got motes from my farm, bought golden lotus x3 with 10 motes then sold
those on the ah for 350-400g for the three and used that money to buy
cloth from the ah. Now that I am not farming ghost iron ore as much (I
usually only stop for the rich veins or the trillium ones) I use the
motes to buy golden lotus to send to my alchemist to transmute the lower
quality gems in the colors I need to the higher quality ones. (The lower
quality ones are basically useless except for crafting finger and neck
items for DEing.) I then use the higher quality gems for my Jewelcrafter
to continue the daily research on cooldown.

Like a few others have mentioned, I leveled my alchemist and my 2 gather
profession toons first. By the time my crafters get to 90 hopefully the
motes will not be BoP.

Brian

John Gordon

11/6/2012 4:15:00 PM

In <fvert-E95954.10215506112012@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net> Fvert <fvert@nospam.invalid> writes:

> (The lower quality ones are basically useless except for crafting finger
> and neck items for DEing.)

The green-quality raw gems can cut into Perfect versions which are
identical in stats to the blue cut gems, so it's not worthless to cut
them. I've seen roughly a 10% rate of getting Perfect gem cuts.

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Catriona R

11/6/2012 4:50:00 PM

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:14:31 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon
<gordon@panix.com> wrote:

>In <fvert-E95954.10215506112012@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net> Fvert <fvert@nospam.invalid> writes:
>
>> (The lower quality ones are basically useless except for crafting finger
>> and neck items for DEing.)
>
>The green-quality raw gems can cut into Perfect versions which are
>identical in stats to the blue cut gems, so it's not worthless to cut
>them. I've seen roughly a 10% rate of getting Perfect gem cuts.

Yep, and thankfully people are now realising they're the same stats
and pricing them accordingly (at first they barely went for more than
the regular green cuts, sigh). So I tend to alternate between spamming
a good stats cut to try and proc a perfect, or crafting for DE, both
of which are better value than converting to a blue gem (opportunity
cost, if the golden lotus costs more than the blue gem, just because
you got it "free" doesn't make it good value to transmute it...
unless, of course, transmute spec actually procs :-))

That being said, I probably should start growing more motes on my farm
and less vegetables now my cooking is maxed out! At present I'm maxing
out whatever type of vegetable is forecast for a good harvest, to get
more ironpaw tokens so I can buy the bell to get my student, but I
probably should just go fishing for my tokens instead!

Fvert

11/9/2012 1:27:00 PM

In article <afstcpF27v4U1@mid.individual.net>,
Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> So I tend to alternate between spamming
> a good stats cut to try and proc a perfect, or crafting for DE, both
> of which are better value than converting to a blue gem (opportunity
> cost, if the golden lotus costs more than the blue gem, just because
> you got it "free" doesn't make it good value to transmute it...
> unless, of course, transmute spec actually procs :-))

Maybe the gem market has improved now that more people have hit 90 but
it seems like whetehr it is Cata or MoP the listing fee is high enough
and the selling price low enough that if it doesn't sell the first time
on the ah I am losing money. I don't know about MoP but the only
exception in Cata was the red gems since everyone wanted to stack AGI or
INT or whatever.

The only reason I am using golden lotuses to transmute green gems to
blues is to be sure I have enough to do the daily research on my
jewelcrafter. Maybe I should check the ah for those to perhaps sell the
golden lotus and use the proceeds to buy the uncut gems I need. Once I
have researched all there is to research I will stop the transmutes.

Brian

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