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L85 PVP and levelling up

usenet

5/8/2012 1:07:00 PM

I'm back playing WoW for a while, having finished Mass Effect 3 and got
bored of Battlefield 3 :)

Over the past week I have taken my prot specced warrior from L70 to L85,
dinging 85 a couple of days ago with just under 5 days played. Not
amazing speed, but I stopped to do a lot of PVP at L68-69-70.

I hadn't played any pvp since season 11 started, and the last time I
played was on my Hunter. In the past few months, it seems that everyone
has massively geared up! :D At 150k stamina on my warrior, a few months
ago I could expect to be one of the higher stam characters in the BG,
yet this weekend everyone was 150k and above, no matter what character,
and I even saw a few DKs at 200k+.

Has the pvp world really moved on so quickly? Or were my few games this
weekend an anomaly?

T.
10 Answers

Mamesick

5/8/2012 3:18:00 PM

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"Trooper" <usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:1kjs493.yz1m6u1n4holdN%usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid...
> I'm back playing WoW for a while, having finished Mass Effect 3 and got
> bored of Battlefield 3 :)
>
> Over the past week I have taken my prot specced warrior from L70 to L85,
> dinging 85 a couple of days ago with just under 5 days played. Not
> amazing speed, but I stopped to do a lot of PVP at L68-69-70.
>
> I hadn't played any pvp since season 11 started, and the last time I
> played was on my Hunter. In the past few months, it seems that everyone
> has massively geared up! :D At 150k stamina on my warrior, a few months
> ago I could expect to be one of the higher stam characters in the BG,
> yet this weekend everyone was 150k and above, no matter what character,
> and I even saw a few DKs at 200k+.
>
> Has the pvp world really moved on so quickly? Or were my few games this
> weekend an anomaly?
>
> T.


Quickly? This season started like 5-6 months ago... Just by doing tol barad
and 1 BG win every day not more you would be full ruthless with serveral
cataclismic pieces a few months ago.
It's more than you moved slowly (or not at all) since you didnt play for so
long.
I didnt really play wow for like 2 months now and even last times I played I
played only a few BG every day and I have all 10 classes on lvl 85, all of
them in full ruthless and all of them have like 4-5 cataclysmic pieces with
cataclysmic weapons on all too...
All people that did ONLY the arena cap (without big rating) every week are
already full cataclysmic...

John Gordon

5/8/2012 4:12:00 PM

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In <1kjs493.yz1m6u1n4holdN%usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid> usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid (Trooper) writes:

> I hadn't played any pvp since season 11 started, and the last time I
> played was on my Hunter. In the past few months, it seems that everyone
> has massively geared up! :D At 150k stamina on my warrior, a few months
> ago I could expect to be one of the higher stam characters in the BG,
> yet this weekend everyone was 150k and above, no matter what character,
> and I even saw a few DKs at 200k+.

Anyone who plays on an active Arena team or does rated BGs has a full set
of Conquest gear by now, which has 150k health unbuffed.

The DK's extra health probably came from stamina trinkets and gems, which
they use for flag carrying.

--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

Shiflet

5/8/2012 5:08:00 PM

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On May 8, 11:11 am, John Gordon <gor...@panix.com> wrote:

> Anyone who plays on an active Arena team or does rated BGs has a full set
> of Conquest gear by now, which has 150k health unbuffed.
>
> The DK's extra health probably came from stamina trinkets and gems, which
> they use for flag carrying.

Or they're blood. My blood DK with only 4 pieces of conquest gear has
around 181k unbuffed so hitting 200k buffed in full conquest is pretty
much guaranteed, no stam trinkets or gems required.

John Gordon

5/8/2012 5:24:00 PM

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In <baab6a6c-0d2b-479c-973a-09a2b07c5455@bh8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> writes:

> Or they're blood. My blood DK with only 4 pieces of conquest gear has
> around 181k unbuffed so hitting 200k buffed in full conquest is pretty
> much guaranteed, no stam trinkets or gems required.

Oh, right. I forgot the stam bonus from being in tank form.

--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

usenet

5/9/2012 8:48:00 AM

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Shammy <noone@nothing.com> wrote:

> "Trooper" <usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:1kjs493.yz1m6u1n4holdN%usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid...
> > I'm back playing WoW for a while, having finished Mass Effect 3 and got
> > bored of Battlefield 3 :)
> >
> > Over the past week I have taken my prot specced warrior from L70 to L85,
> > dinging 85 a couple of days ago with just under 5 days played. Not
> > amazing speed, but I stopped to do a lot of PVP at L68-69-70.
> >
> > I hadn't played any pvp since season 11 started, and the last time I
> > played was on my Hunter. In the past few months, it seems that everyone
> > has massively geared up! :D At 150k stamina on my warrior, a few months
> > ago I could expect to be one of the higher stam characters in the BG,
> > yet this weekend everyone was 150k and above, no matter what character,
> > and I even saw a few DKs at 200k+.
> >
> > Has the pvp world really moved on so quickly? Or were my few games this
> > weekend an anomaly?
> >
> > T.
>
>
> Quickly? This season started like 5-6 months ago... Just by doing tol barad
> and 1 BG win every day not more you would be full ruthless with serveral
> cataclismic pieces a few months ago.

Blimey, has it been so long, time really does fly :)

> It's more than you moved slowly (or not at all) since you didnt play for so
> long.
> I didnt really play wow for like 2 months now and even last times I played I
> played only a few BG every day and I have all 10 classes on lvl 85, all of
> them in full ruthless and all of them have like 4-5 cataclysmic pieces with
> cataclysmic weapons on all too...
> All people that did ONLY the arena cap (without big rating) every week are
> already full cataclysmic...

I guess my point was more around when I was last playing, at the end of
Season 10, on average each BG would be made up of around 20% well
geared, 50% moderately geared and 30% with poor gear.

This time, at the end of Season 11, 60% are well geared, 40% are
moderately geared and 0% are poorly geared, in the games I have played
so far.

Just wondering why the difference, is there less to do so people are
doing more pvp?

T.

Shiflet

5/9/2012 6:22:00 PM

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> Just wondering why the difference, is there less to do so people are
> doing more pvp?

You have to consider the changes in gear level. Someone who only has 4
pieces of current PvP gear now is gonna have more health and higher
stats than someone who only had 4 pieces of gear in S10. So even the
poorly geared people are gonna seem better geared than they were
before, the moderately geared people will be looking more like what
the well geared people were in S10, and the high geared people,
well...they'll stand out. There's also the fact that randoms award
conquest points now, so even people who don't do arena can start
getting conquest pieces too.

ald

5/10/2012 1:56:00 AM

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On Wed, 9 May 2012 09:47:39 +0100, usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid
(Trooper) wrote:

>I guess my point was more around when I was last playing, at the end of
>Season 10, on average each BG would be made up of around 20% well
>geared, 50% moderately geared and 30% with poor gear.
>
>This time, at the end of Season 11, 60% are well geared, 40% are
>moderately geared and 0% are poorly geared, in the games I have played
>so far.
>
>Just wondering why the difference, is there less to do so people are
>doing more pvp?
>
>T.

Possible, though as I've been full PvP for several seasons, it would
be difficult for me to say. What has made much more of a difference is
the addition of Conquest Points for Random BGs, and Call to Arms BGs.
100 for the first win daily, 50 for each subsequent one, people don't
even have to run Arenas anymore to get Arena gear (though running them
does make it much quicker).

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Scion

5/16/2012 1:29:00 PM

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Shiflet spake thus:

>> Just wondering why the difference, is there less to do so people are
>> doing more pvp?
>
> You have to consider the changes in gear level. Someone who only has 4
> pieces of current PvP gear now is gonna have more health and higher
> stats than someone who only had 4 pieces of gear in S10. So even the
> poorly geared people are gonna seem better geared than they were before,
> the moderately geared people will be looking more like what the well
> geared people were in S10, and the high geared people, well...they'll
> stand out. There's also the fact that randoms award conquest points now,
> so even people who don't do arena can start getting conquest pieces too.

There's another way of getting conquest - collect justice points and
convert them.

Jason Tinling

5/16/2012 3:51:00 PM

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On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:29:29 AM UTC-7, Scion wrote:

>
> There's another way of getting conquest - collect justice points and
> convert them.

JP converts to Honor. VP converts to Conquest.

Scion

5/17/2012 8:12:00 AM

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Jason Tinling spake thus:

> On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:29:29 AM UTC-7, Scion wrote:
>
>
>> There's another way of getting conquest - collect justice points and
>> convert them.
>
> JP converts to Honor. VP converts to Conquest.

Oh yeah. Well I almost got it right :-)