On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 23, 10:02 am, Shiflet <rshif...@charter.net> wrote:
>> > How are Pallies in PvP? Are they better as DPS, or as heals? How does
>> > arena vs BG effect this?
>>
>> DPS, they hit hard...while Avenging Wrath is up. When it's not up,
>> they're not real impressive. For starters, they are a melee class with
>> a gap closer that is subpar, they have no snare, and with only 1 stun
>> it's just about guaranteed to get trinketed out of. And any decent
>> PvPer with a dispel(or worse, Spellsteal) will take wings as soon as
>> you pop it, others will save their CC until you pop it then just kite
>> you. Tank classes will usually pop their defensive CDs and weather the
>> storm and blood DKs will just heal through it. And once Wings is gone,
>> you're one of the least threatening enemies on the field. This is
>> especially true in arena as you're more likely to encounter people who
>> are more adept at CC timing and dispelling, especially once you get
>> past the lower level brackets. In random BGs you're more likely to
>> find people who aren't real skilled so dispels are less common so you
>> are more likely to get your full burst out. But even then, a smart
>> player can drastically reduce your effectiveness with one single cast
>> and getting AW stolen by a mage will really ruin your day. Also, one
>> more minor tip, learn what the DK Dark Simulacrum debuff looks like,
>> and don't pop wings if he has it on you. DKs won't normally use Dark
>> Sim on a pally, but if they're alone against you(or if everyone else
>> nearby is melee), they just might, in hopes of catching Divine Shield,
>> Hammer of Justice, or wings(I've taken both AW and bubble on my DK,
>> and I can say it's immensely satisfying to watch a pally pop wings as
>> he engages you, only to pop my simmed copy and tear him up). Do make
>> sure you make the most of Hand of Freedom and Rebuke, and don't forget
>> that even though Repentance breaks on damage it can still be used as
>> an interrupt as well...if you use Rebuke the opponent might think they
>> are free to cast something longer without fear of interruption, and
>> then you can Repentance them to stop it as well.
>>
>> Heals OTOH...pally healers are incredibly effective. Once a holy pally
>> gets geared up in PvP gear, and gets the hang of what they're doing...
>> it will generally take 3 people to take him down, often more.
>
>Interesting - it looks like the healer role is the way to go (the
>classic way to defend against spellsteal, as you know, is to macro it
>with another, disposable buff that will be the one stolen).
>
>I've done PvP healing a few times, but in wotlk arenas it mainly
>resulted in my being targeted and killed, rapidly.
>
>In BC BGs, I could at times be quite useful, especially in Alterac
>Valley. But I never really worked at getting my resilience up very
>high.
>
>pt
Healer role is certainly the most fun, for me ;-) Yeah, as a healer of
any kind in PvP (especially TB) you need to understand that there's a
big red + over your head (if you don't understand that reference, get
Healers have to Die from Curse, invaluable even to healers in PvP),
and Pally's are the ones best equipped to deal with that.
That said, I've never seriously tried any other role for a Pally in
PvP, was still in Prot when leveling (and that worked reasonably well
for AV) but specced Holy as soon as I hit 85, so I could heal in TB,
and have never looked back ;-)
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