On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:23:41 -0700 (PDT), Shiflet
<rshiflet@charter.net> wrote:
>On Mar 21, 1:03 am, Fvert <fv...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It was easy to decide to use some of the PVE stuff that dropped off
>> holiday bosses vs Season 10 PVP gear. It wasn't a huge difference. I was
>> having a harder time being sure which was better when it came time to
>> start replacing stuff when the season 11 PVP stuff came out. Your
>> comments help. Thanks.
>
>If you're not raiding, PvP gear is just fine. PvE gear of the same(or
>higher) ilvl will be better, but PvE gear a more than a few ilvls
>lower will generally be worse than the PvP gear. The difference is
>most important when you're raiding, where a 100 dps increase might be
>the difference between a win and a 1% wipe. Likewise, PvP gear doesn't
>have much Hit on it(being hit capped is generally considered high
>priority for every dps spec), and you need significantly more hit to
>fight raid bosses than you do to fight normal mobs, which is another
>downside. For healers, PvP gear often has less spirit, which means
>less mana regen. For PvP, this is acceptable, where fights are
>generally expected to be fairly brief giving you time to drink between
>skirmishes, for long drawn out boss fights it can be more problematic.
>
> Basically, a 346 blue is gonna be worse than a 406 PvP piece, period,
>but a 391 PvE piece is probably gonna be better than a 406 PvP piece
>despite the difference in ilvl. The extra crit/haste/mastery on the
>PvE piece will generally add slightly more to your DPS than the higher
>primary stat on the higher ilvl PvP piece.
>
Just a quick rebuttal from the other side <g>: Some of your info is a
bit dated, Danny. My Hunter, in full PvP gear (as are all of my toons)
has no problem hitting the hit cap, and has to almost constantly
reforge *away* from hit. She'd probably have to undo at least some of
the reforges if she were to get back into doing dungeons, but not all,
I believe. Also, my Holy Pally, who *does* do guild dungeons on
occasion, has seen exactly one piece that's still a replacement for
her PvP gear when doing dungeons, the Pickled Egg HH drop that
replaces the "break fear" trinket, which admittedly is pretty useless
for PvE (she had a necklace that was marginally better than her
Ruthless Gladiator neck, but it became worthless when she upgraded to
the Cata Gladiator one). I've looked through the Valor pieces and have
yet to find one that I'd replace, for 5 mans (*not* Raids, but that's
not what we're talking about here, right?). And if you think PvP
fights are brief, you haven't done near enough Tol Barad ;-P
I admit that I haven't researched possible drops from dungeons for
upgrades for her, but I haven't seen any.
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ald
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