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petertrei

1/23/2012 9:35:00 PM

Daily:
* Collect Whiptail, and 15 Volatile life. Convert V. Life to V.
Air, and sell on AH. (this only takes 15 minutes).

Once or twice a week:
* Run a 10 man raid with the guild (this is the only really fun
part).
* Grind fish and herbs to make Seafood Feasts and Cauldron of
Battle, for above-mentioned raids.

Weekly:
* Run 2 LFR DS Raids for gear and Valor Points.
* Run 4 DS 5-mans for Valor Points, and sometimes off-spec gear.
* Solo Molten core for rep.

Monthly :
* Do Darkmoon Faire for rep Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
period).

Yearly:
* Run various world events to try to get mounts, etc.

Getting a little fed up....

pt
10 Answers

Lancelet

1/24/2012 8:20:00 AM

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Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in news:ff4e104a-2534-4d72-8c92-
e97fbc765e39@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:


>
> Monthly :
> * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
> 320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
> period).

Limited trade-in ? I'm afraid to ask... What do you mean ?

k

1/24/2012 9:40:00 AM

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"Lancelet" <lancelet.nospam@merci.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9FE45F09D49D5lanceletnospammercii@88.198.244.100...
> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:ff4e104a-2534-4d72-8c92-
> e97fbc765e39@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>>
>> Monthly :
>> * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
>> 320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
>> period).
>
> Limited trade-in ? I'm afraid to ask... What do you mean ?

I'm guessing Lancelet is referring to to the old darkmoon faire tickets
blizz stole from us when they changed the faire

I had a fair few tucked aside too.. very annoyed they were just arbitrarily
removed.

petertrei

1/24/2012 1:45:00 PM

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On Jan 24, 3:20 am, Lancelet <lancelet.nos...@merci.invalid> wrote:
> Cryptoengineer <petert...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ff4e104a-2534-4d72-8c92-
> e97fbc765...@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Monthly :
> >    * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep  Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
> > 320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
> > period).
>
> Limited trade-in ? I'm afraid to ask... What do you mean ?

My old DMF tickets were transmogged to 'Tattered Darkmoon Faire
Tickets', which are vendor trash.

I gather the the very first week of the new DMF, they could still be
used.

pt

Neil Cerutti

1/24/2012 6:23:00 PM

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On 2012-01-23, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daily:
> * Collect Whiptail, and 15 Volatile life. Convert V. Life to V.
> Air, and sell on AH. (this only takes 15 minutes).
>
> Once or twice a week:
> * Run a 10 man raid with the guild (this is the only really fun
> part).
> * Grind fish and herbs to make Seafood Feasts and Cauldron of
> Battle, for above-mentioned raids.
>
> Weekly:
> * Run 2 LFR DS Raids for gear and Valor Points.
> * Run 4 DS 5-mans for Valor Points, and sometimes off-spec gear.
> * Solo Molten core for rep.
>
> Monthly :
> * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
> 320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
> period).
>
> Yearly:
> * Run various world events to try to get mounts, etc.
>
> Getting a little fed up....

Is there any way for you to shake things up? When I got tired of
doing dailies I plunged into PVP, and that's been great fun. It
looks like you're doing all the high-level content except for
that, though.

--
Neil Cerutti

ASKF

1/24/2012 9:32:00 PM

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Cryptoengineer ytrede sig i
<ff4e104a-2534-4d72-8c92-e97fbc765e39@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com> med
dette:

>Daily:
> * Collect Whiptail, and 15 Volatile life. Convert V. Life to V.
>Air, and sell on AH. (this only takes 15 minutes).
>
>Once or twice a week:
> * Run a 10 man raid with the guild (this is the only really fun
>part).
> * Grind fish and herbs to make Seafood Feasts and Cauldron of
>Battle, for above-mentioned raids.
>
>Weekly:
> * Run 2 LFR DS Raids for gear and Valor Points.
> * Run 4 DS 5-mans for Valor Points, and sometimes off-spec gear.
> * Solo Molten core for rep.
>
>Monthly :
> * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
>320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
>period).
>
>Yearly:
> * Run various world events to try to get mounts, etc.
>
>Getting a little fed up....

I'm spicing it up a bit by doing lots of achievements. There are often
pugs that do old raids for transmogryph gear and/or achievements, and it
can still be quite a challenge to make all understand what to do, and
then do it.
--
Allan Stig Kiilerich Frederiksen
"When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
-Myron Tribus

petertrei

1/24/2012 10:12:00 PM

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On Jan 24, 1:22 pm, Neil Cerutti <ne...@norwich.edu> wrote:
> On 2012-01-23, Cryptoengineer <petert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Daily:
> >    * Collect Whiptail, and 15 Volatile life. Convert V. Life to V.
> > Air, and sell on AH. (this only takes 15 minutes).
>
> > Once or twice a week:
> >    * Run a 10 man raid with the guild (this is the only really fun
> > part).
> >    * Grind fish and herbs to make Seafood Feasts and Cauldron of
> > Battle, for above-mentioned raids.
>
> > Weekly:
> >    * Run 2 LFR DS Raids for gear and Valor Points.
> >    * Run 4 DS 5-mans for Valor Points, and sometimes off-spec gear.
> >    * Solo Molten core for rep.
>
> > Monthly :
> >    * Do Darkmoon Faire for rep  Dunno what to with tickets (and lost
> > 320 of the old ones when I was unaware of the limited trade-in
> > period).
>
> > Yearly:
> >    * Run various world events to try to get mounts, etc.
>
> > Getting a little fed up....
>
> Is there any way for you to shake things up? When I got tired of
> doing dailies I plunged into PVP, and that's been great fun. It
> looks like you're doing all the high-level content except for
> that, though.

My experiences so far with PvP have been pretty miserable; however, I
can't say I've ever tried it very seriously. My main is a Holy Pally
healer (Vamoose/US-Misha), with a somewhat cruddy Ret MDPS off-spec
(all the Valor Points are going to the main spec right now). I ground
BGs back in Burning Crusade to get my first epics (and had some fun
with the healing), and Winterspring a bit in WotLK, but basically
acted as a portable Honorable Kill for the other side. I've done a few
arenas, but again sucked at it. I did the Baradin Hold runs for rep
and items when they became available, but since getting exalted and
outgearing it quit.

I could try it I suppose, but it would take a long time to become
good, if ever.
pt

steve.kaye

1/25/2012 8:09:00 AM

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On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:11:37 -0800 (PST), Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 24, 1:22 pm, Neil Cerutti <ne...@norwich.edu> wrote:
>> Is there any way for you to shake things up? When I got tired of
>> doing dailies I plunged into PVP, and that's been great fun. It
>> looks like you're doing all the high-level content except for
>> that, though.
>
>My experiences so far with PvP have been pretty miserable; however, I
>can't say I've ever tried it very seriously. My main is a Holy Pally
>healer (Vamoose/US-Misha), with a somewhat cruddy Ret MDPS off-spec
>(all the Valor Points are going to the main spec right now). I ground
>BGs back in Burning Crusade to get my first epics (and had some fun
>with the healing), and Winterspring a bit in WotLK, but basically
>acted as a portable Honorable Kill for the other side. I've done a few
>arenas, but again sucked at it. I did the Baradin Hold runs for rep
>and items when they became available, but since getting exalted and
>outgearing it quit.
>
>I could try it I suppose, but it would take a long time to become
>good, if ever.

The thing with PvP is that you need to do it quite a bit before you
stop being the free HK. Doubly so because a) you're not as good as
the others due to inexperience and b) your gear is not as good as the
others because you've not done enough to buy it.

When I last did Arenas (Season 4 which was in TBC) it was even more of
a problem because it put you in at 1500 points which was higher than
you should have been (or, at the very least, higher than I should have
been). That meant that I lost at least 9 out of 10 matches until my
rating dropped to about 1100 when I started to crawl back up. I broke
1500 points just before the season ended :)

It can be a tough game to get into if you really dislike dying.

I can't really offer any advice though as I've not done much PvP since
TBC and none since WotLK.

steve.kaye
--
Jelan, 85 Priest Clokk, 81 Druid Belugar, 76 Warrior
Miho, 84 Rogue Jengu, 81 Death Knight Mingan, 76 Shaman
Kibbs, 83 Paladin Jaille, 80 Warlock Yopp, 73 Hunter
[ Ravenholdt-EU (Horde) ] Aloola, 70 Mage

Neil Cerutti

1/25/2012 1:28:00 PM

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On 2012-01-25, Steve Kaye <nospam@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> I can't really offer any advice though as I've not done much
> PvP since TBC and none since WotLK.

As a long-time player with vast resources, your easiest entry to
PVP will be with low-level alts. With heirlooms and (very
importantly) the best available enchants, you can be nearly
max-strength quickly. This gives you a nice cushion to both
develop a taste for PVP, and to acquire the necessary skill and
awareness. The disadvantage is that it's very different from
high-level play. The selection of Battlegrounds is limited to
just two. The amount of CC is minimal. Enemies are all easier to
kill than at max level.

I recently got my first Retribution Paladin to level 14. His
journey from level 10 to 14 was a fascinating transformation from
glass-jawed pesterance to nigh-invulnerable demigod. Soon he'll
ding 15, and come back down to earth. But even then, he'll be the
bain of all healers, except maybe Shamans.

--
Neil Cerutti

petertrei

1/25/2012 2:34:00 PM

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On Jan 25, 8:27 am, Neil Cerutti <ne...@norwich.edu> wrote:
> On 2012-01-25, Steve Kaye <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I can't really offer any advice though as I've not done much
> > PvP since TBC and none since WotLK.
>
> As a long-time player with vast resources, your easiest entry to
> PVP will be with low-level alts. With heirlooms and (very
> importantly) the best available enchants, you can be nearly
> max-strength quickly. This gives you a nice cushion to both
> develop a taste for PVP, and to acquire the necessary skill and
> awareness. The disadvantage is that it's very different from
> high-level play. The selection of Battlegrounds is limited to
> just two. The amount of CC is minimal. Enemies are all easier to
> kill than at max level.
>
> I recently got my first Retribution Paladin to level 14. His
> journey from level 10 to 14 was a fascinating transformation from
> glass-jawed pesterance to nigh-invulnerable demigod. Soon he'll
> ding 15, and come back down to earth. But even then, he'll be the
> bain of all healers, except maybe Shamans.

That's an interesting suggestion. It's certainly true that my main has
'vast resources' compared with a new player - about 46k gold atm (use
to be more, I spent a lot regearing him after 4.3).

pt

Neil Cerutti

1/25/2012 3:32:00 PM

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On 2012-01-25, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 8:27?am, Neil Cerutti <ne...@norwich.edu> wrote:
>> On 2012-01-25, Steve Kaye <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > I can't really offer any advice though as I've not done much
>> > PvP since TBC and none since WotLK.
>>
>> As a long-time player with vast resources, your easiest entry to
>> PVP will be with low-level alts. With heirlooms and (very
>> importantly) the best available enchants, you can be nearly
>> max-strength quickly. This gives you a nice cushion to both
>> develop a taste for PVP, and to acquire the necessary skill and
>> awareness. The disadvantage is that it's very different from
>> high-level play. The selection of Battlegrounds is limited to
>> just two. The amount of CC is minimal. Enemies are all easier to
>> kill than at max level.
>>
>> I recently got my first Retribution Paladin to level 14. His
>> journey from level 10 to 14 was a fascinating transformation from
>> glass-jawed pesterance to nigh-invulnerable demigod. Soon he'll
>> ding 15, and come back down to earth. But even then, he'll be the
>> bain of all healers, except maybe Shamans.
>
> That's an interesting suggestion. It's certainly true that my
> main has 'vast resources' compared with a new player - about
> 46k gold atm (use to be more, I spent a lot regearing him after
> 4.3).

You don't actually need particularly vast resources to be near
the top of the bell curve in the low brackets. I did just fine
with a Hunter months before I earned my first Heirloom. I had a
lot of gold when I got started, but that was all.

Heirlooms are the target of the ire of the undergeared, because
they are very visible. But they really aren't that much better
than the plain ol' gear you buy from the AH or farm yourself. At
level 15, you can get your own blue gear from dungeons, and the
disadvantage almost disappears.

The real difference between a leveling twink and a curious
party is that there's no useless gear anywhere on your toon, and
all of it is enchanted with the best enchants you can afford.
It's helpful to level Engineering if you aren't in a high-level
guild (for the helms), and if you can't self-heal you need to max
out your First Aid. For consumables, you'll need Rumsey Rum Black
Label (2 silver a piece), Heavy Runecloth Bandages, and
top-of-the-line healing potions. All this costs less than 750
gold per toon, with the weapon enchants and professions making up
most of that cost.

Below level 21 there's a new and thriving culture of free2play BG
toons who *do* suffer perpetual crippling disadvantages. I admire
their dedication rather than feel very sorry for them. But they
*will* hate you and your "overpowered" toon.

--
Neil Cerutti