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usenet

1/16/2012 3:49:00 PM

Missed the last few due to xmas and stuff, and haven't played a huge
amount, however.

My warrior hit L70 a week or so back, through pvp mainly, I had enough
honour to buy the pvp 1 hander sword at about 65 and all the 70 pvp gear
when I hit 70.

Not sure if I mentioned this before but I swapped to protection spec at
about L64 and never looked back, prot warrior in pvp is hilarious! I can
now take on a pally 1-2-1 and actually win every so often, and with a
healer I can rip through half a dozen enemies :D Should have done this
ages ago!

I also have a pvp macro which makes me laugh. It charges, berserker
rage, both trinkets, inner rage, battle shout, shield wall and probably
a few things I can't remember, all in one push due to them all being
instant. Nothing like going out in a blaze of glory. Admittedly, if my
opponent lasts past 5 seconds, i'm screwed :D

T.
10 Answers

Catriona R

1/16/2012 4:28:00 PM

0


On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:48:36 +0000, usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid
(Trooper) wrote:

>Missed the last few due to xmas and stuff, and haven't played a huge
>amount, however.

Oops, was typing my update when you posted lol, duplicate thread alert
:-)

>My warrior hit L70 a week or so back, through pvp mainly, I had enough
>honour to buy the pvp 1 hander sword at about 65 and all the 70 pvp gear
>when I hit 70.
>
>Not sure if I mentioned this before but I swapped to protection spec at
>about L64 and never looked back, prot warrior in pvp is hilarious! I can
>now take on a pally 1-2-1 and actually win every so often, and with a
>healer I can rip through half a dozen enemies :D Should have done this
>ages ago!

Hehe nice! Sounds like fun :-D Bet the healer enjoys it too, when I
did BGs a lot at 70 I often used to pick a tough-looking warrior and
follow him around, usually he'd get the hint and protect me and we'd
both live for ages. really fun :-D

>I also have a pvp macro which makes me laugh. It charges, berserker
>rage, both trinkets, inner rage, battle shout, shield wall and probably
>a few things I can't remember, all in one push due to them all being
>instant. Nothing like going out in a blaze of glory. Admittedly, if my
>opponent lasts past 5 seconds, i'm screwed :D

Rofl, sounds fun anyway :-)
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Sagart (85 Undead Priest) Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (85 Troll Shaman) Eilnich (85 Blood Elf Warlock)
Ruire (85 Blood Elf Paladin) Balgair (82 Human Rogue)
Dubh (80 Orc Death Knight) Rosad (73 Human Warlock)

S U N risr

1/17/2012 2:31:00 PM

0

On 1/16/2012 10:48 AM, Trooper wrote:
> Missed the last few due to xmas and stuff, and haven't played a huge
> amount, however.
>
> My warrior hit L70 a week or so back, through pvp mainly, I had enough
> honour to buy the pvp 1 hander sword at about 65 and all the 70 pvp gear
> when I hit 70.
>
> Not sure if I mentioned this before but I swapped to protection spec at
> about L64 and never looked back, prot warrior in pvp is hilarious! I can
> now take on a pally 1-2-1 and actually win every so often, and with a
> healer I can rip through half a dozen enemies :D Should have done this
> ages ago!
>
> I also have a pvp macro which makes me laugh. It charges, berserker
> rage, both trinkets, inner rage, battle shout, shield wall and probably
> a few things I can't remember, all in one push due to them all being
> instant. Nothing like going out in a blaze of glory. Admittedly, if my
> opponent lasts past 5 seconds, i'm screwed :D
>
> T.

Cool -

Well, this past week (and weekend) I did my basic, and ran all 4 of my
ally toons through the new dungeons 6 times each, then through the first
LFR raid...(gotta read up on the second so I know what I'm doing before
I que up for that, but the first one is relatively easy) I've taken my
Mage, rogue and DK through, but my druid was teh last toon I worked on,
and I finally got both his dps and healing set up to min requirements
for the LFR tool. So my new exciting thing for this week was taking my
resto druid in to heal it. Overall,...some spikes here and there, but
overall not too bad.

One thing - I think everyone should have to heal things once, just to
see what hurts and what doesn't...lmao For example, the black spray
crap that hits the ranged from the tentacles going up to the 2nd boss
hurts a lot more than I ever thought. Basically, I know what hurts a
lot now and I'll make sure to avoid it when playing my dps. I see a lot
of dps just standing in crap like they are working on a test dummy or
something. I confess, it feels nice to have the control to say that
I'll heal them once or twice, but if I see them not move again, I'll let
them die. When they die repeatedly, either they'll leave, move or ask
why. :)

But overall, I enjoyed it... With all my ally toons done, I went back
and played around on my Horde priest and leveled him from 81 to
83....He's about halfway through deepholm.....Oh, and I had got him
revered with the Oricles last week, so he bought his first egg....When
it hatched, I got the green proto-drake...On the very first shot! So,
it feels good flying around leveling with that. You don't see that too
much anymore, as most levelers are just trying to get to 85 as fast as
they can, they don't stop and do the dailies required for rep in
Shalozar....I think I might go back to Outlands and finish my rep to get
the Manta-ray looking mount before leveling further..

Ah well....another week starts today.. :)

Catriona R

1/17/2012 2:48:00 PM

0


On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:31:01 -0500, IYM <"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
wrote:

>Well, this past week (and weekend) I did my basic, and ran all 4 of my
>ally toons through the new dungeons 6 times each, then through the first
>LFR raid...(gotta read up on the second so I know what I'm doing before
>I que up for that, but the first one is relatively easy) I've taken my
>Mage, rogue and DK through, but my druid was teh last toon I worked on,
>and I finally got both his dps and healing set up to min requirements
>for the LFR tool. So my new exciting thing for this week was taking my
>resto druid in to heal it. Overall,...some spikes here and there, but
>overall not too bad.

I've only done it as healer and it's pretty fun, just spam my aoe
heals a lot lol. Hardest bit is not running out of mana, I usually do
by the ends of fights. Especially when the raid has a healer just
afk'ing through all the fights, and idiots keep chainpulling so we're
never out of combat long enough to get a votekick through, sigh (guess
what happened on my last run lol, having to do extra healing because
you're only 5 healers instead of 6 doesn't help the mana much!)

Looking forward to trying as dps for a change but none of my dpsers
are anywhere near the required gear lvl yet; I'll have to brave the
5-mans first! Problem is, I can't pick which to gear up first, they're
all around the same level so there's no obvious candidate.

>One thing - I think everyone should have to heal things once, just to
>see what hurts and what doesn't...lmao For example, the black spray
>crap that hits the ranged from the tentacles going up to the 2nd boss
>hurts a lot more than I ever thought. Basically, I know what hurts a
>lot now and I'll make sure to avoid it when playing my dps. I see a lot
>of dps just standing in crap like they are working on a test dummy or
>something. I confess, it feels nice to have the control to say that
>I'll heal them once or twice, but if I see them not move again, I'll let
>them die. When they die repeatedly, either they'll leave, move or ask
>why. :)

I've healed that trash a load of times and wasn't even aware that was
avoidable, seems to me like random hits on random people, unless I
missed something lol; I'll pay more attention next time (I do tend to
get tunnel vision on Grid on that trash since it is just whack-a-mole
trying to heal everyone fast), but I've been hit by it myself and
never seen anything there to avoid! If it is avoidable then I'll pay a
LOT more attention in future, I'd just assumed it was just a random
dmg to annoy the healers kinda deal :-P

Agreed that everyone should play a healer sometimes though, often
healers can see who's doing stuff wrong by who takes dmg. I know you
haven't done the 2nd bit of Raid Finder yet but I can tell you: first
boss in it, Ultraxion, you get a big button appear in your UI (if you
don't, look up a macro that lets you press it anyway!), and that lets
you phase out to avoid a very massive aoe spell he does. You get
plenty of warning for this spell, which takes him ages to cast, but
I've never seen fewer than 5 people in the raid take a ton of dmg from
it and waste my mana on extra healing, sigh. On normal/heroic modes
it's a one-shot, sadly it isn't on LFR; I wish it was since people
might actually learn if they just died, instead the healers get to
pick up the tab :-P

>But overall, I enjoyed it... With all my ally toons done, I went back
>and played around on my Horde priest and leveled him from 81 to
>83....He's about halfway through deepholm.....Oh, and I had got him
>revered with the Oricles last week, so he bought his first egg....When
>it hatched, I got the green proto-drake...On the very first shot! So,
>it feels good flying around leveling with that. You don't see that too
>much anymore, as most levelers are just trying to get to 85 as fast as
>they can, they don't stop and do the dailies required for rep in
>Shalozar....I think I might go back to Outlands and finish my rep to get
>the Manta-ray looking mount before leveling further..

Congrats on your mount :-D I was amazingly lucky and got it first time
as well, being how this was very early in WotLK I was one of the first
on the server with that mount, felt pretty nice. Even if it did use up
my luck with drops for the rest of the expansion, I think!
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EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest) Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (85 Troll Shaman) Eilnich (85 Blood Elf Warlock)
Ruire (85 Blood Elf Paladin) Balgair (82 Human Rogue)
Dubh (80 Orc Death Knight) Rosad (73 Human Warlock)

S U N risr

1/17/2012 5:23:00 PM

0

On 1/17/2012 9:48 AM, Catriona R wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:31:01 -0500, IYM<"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, this past week (and weekend) I did my basic, and ran all 4 of my
>> ally toons through the new dungeons 6 times each, then through the first
>> LFR raid...(gotta read up on the second so I know what I'm doing before
>> I que up for that, but the first one is relatively easy) I've taken my
>> Mage, rogue and DK through, but my druid was teh last toon I worked on,
>> and I finally got both his dps and healing set up to min requirements
>> for the LFR tool. So my new exciting thing for this week was taking my
>> resto druid in to heal it. Overall,...some spikes here and there, but
>> overall not too bad.
>
> I've only done it as healer and it's pretty fun, just spam my aoe
> heals a lot lol.

Resto druids don't have a lot of AoE heals....Have Wild growth (5 of the
most seriously hurt get it), but have a lot of HoT's...So I ended up
starting by getting 3 stacks of LB on the main tank, rejuv and regrowth
running, swiftmend when it's up, and just kept them going...Then wild
growth to the raid whenever it was up, and spot healed the rest as
needed. On spikes, I healed through best I could, then tranquility to
bring everyone up....Lather, rinse, repeat...

Hardest bit is not running out of mana, I usually do
> by the ends of fights. Especially when the raid has a healer just
> afk'ing through all the fights, and idiots keep chainpulling so we're
> never out of combat long enough to get a votekick through, sigh (guess
> what happened on my last run lol, having to do extra healing because
> you're only 5 healers instead of 6 doesn't help the mana much!)

Well, we had a chain-pulling tank as well...In fact, he didn't even let
us bring up the 2 dps who went down (for standing in crap) on the last
boss between the trash and boss. I never had mana issues...Was
throwing out as fast as I could and never dropped below 50% (except
where the mana void and those little blobs temporarily sucked it out of
you)...Wonder if I should reforge for more haste? I finished in a
respectable 4th in overall healing my first time in (1st was 19%, I was
4th with 14.5%), so not shabby. Was in with 3 priests, me and another
druid, and one pally heals. Preists were top 3 in heals, but also all 3
were way tops in overheals, and not one of any heals except the two
druids did any dispelling....Had 100 dispells between the 2 of us,
roughly evenly split...Pally was bottom on everything...Not sure why. I
was "just" in there with an ilevel of 372, so I'm not sure if he was
akf, dps'ing or just not a decent healer....

>
> Looking forward to trying as dps for a change but none of my dpsers
> are anywhere near the required gear lvl yet; I'll have to brave the
> 5-mans first!

Brave them! The lower ones are so nerfed right now, and as a dps, it
doesnt matter if you are 3rd...who cares? Just don't stand in crap and
your fine! :)

Problem is, I can't pick which to gear up first, they're
> all around the same level so there's no obvious candidate.
>
>> One thing - I think everyone should have to heal things once, just to
>> see what hurts and what doesn't...lmao For example, the black spray
>> crap that hits the ranged from the tentacles going up to the 2nd boss
>> hurts a lot more than I ever thought. Basically, I know what hurts a
>> lot now and I'll make sure to avoid it when playing my dps. I see a lot
>> of dps just standing in crap like they are working on a test dummy or
>> something. I confess, it feels nice to have the control to say that
>> I'll heal them once or twice, but if I see them not move again, I'll let
>> them die. When they die repeatedly, either they'll leave, move or ask
>> why. :)
>
> I've healed that trash a load of times and wasn't even aware that was
> avoidable, seems to me like random hits on random people, unless I
> missed something lol; I'll pay more attention next time (I do tend to
> get tunnel vision on Grid on that trash since it is just whack-a-mole
> trying to heal everyone fast), but I've been hit by it myself and
> never seen anything there to avoid! If it is avoidable then I'll pay a
> LOT more attention in future, I'd just assumed it was just a random
> dmg to annoy the healers kinda deal :-P

I could be unavoidable...I don't know. I've seen the stuff fly out and
it looks like if your paying attention you can strafe to the side, but
my GTFO didn't go off (because it's not somthing you stand in) so I
really didn't think it was a big deal. Some people getting hit with
that took them down 3/4. It usually oly hit one person at a time, so
not *too* big a deal on heals, but if I can help by NOT getting hit, I'm
sure they'd appreciate it..I know I would. :)

GTFO is my biggest friend next to DBM....esp as a healer. I get the
buzzer going the split second before I start getting hit for standing in
something, which snaps me out of my Healbot tunnel vision. lol


Catriona R

1/17/2012 5:40:00 PM

0


On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:23:08 -0500, IYM <"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
wrote:

>On 1/17/2012 9:48 AM, Catriona R wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:31:01 -0500, IYM<"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, this past week (and weekend) I did my basic, and ran all 4 of my
>>> ally toons through the new dungeons 6 times each, then through the first
>>> LFR raid...(gotta read up on the second so I know what I'm doing before
>>> I que up for that, but the first one is relatively easy) I've taken my
>>> Mage, rogue and DK through, but my druid was teh last toon I worked on,
>>> and I finally got both his dps and healing set up to min requirements
>>> for the LFR tool. So my new exciting thing for this week was taking my
>>> resto druid in to heal it. Overall,...some spikes here and there, but
>>> overall not too bad.
>>
>> I've only done it as healer and it's pretty fun, just spam my aoe
>> heals a lot lol.
>
>Resto druids don't have a lot of AoE heals....Have Wild growth (5 of the
>most seriously hurt get it), but have a lot of HoT's...So I ended up
>starting by getting 3 stacks of LB on the main tank, rejuv and regrowth
>running, swiftmend when it's up, and just kept them going...Then wild
>growth to the raid whenever it was up, and spot healed the rest as
>needed. On spikes, I healed through best I could, then tranquility to
>bring everyone up....Lather, rinse, repeat...

Thought you had whatever it is that puts that nice green circle on the
ground too (sorry, don't know the name :-)). I use Holy Word Sanctuary
whenever I think everyone's going to be hit by stuff (and often watch
my timing, since invariably everyone puts their aoe heals up at the
start of an aoe dmg phase and then there's none up for the rest of the
dmg - when that happens I save mine and put it up 10 sec after
everyone else ;-)), Circle of Healing on cd (much like Wild Growth
except not a hot) and Prayer of Healing on any groups that are
hurting. Add in Divine Hymn whenever people are getting aoed badly
(that thing is fantastic now, it's got a 3 min cd yet it's often my
top healing spell when I time it right!) and yeah, don't tend to have
to cast direct heals much; when everything's on cd I'll stick
renew/PoM/a greater heal on a tank but generally I'm aoe healing.
Which eats mana like heck but it's fun and effective.

>Hardest bit is not running out of mana, I usually do
>> by the ends of fights. Especially when the raid has a healer just
>> afk'ing through all the fights, and idiots keep chainpulling so we're
>> never out of combat long enough to get a votekick through, sigh (guess
>> what happened on my last run lol, having to do extra healing because
>> you're only 5 healers instead of 6 doesn't help the mana much!)
>
>Well, we had a chain-pulling tank as well...In fact, he didn't even let
>us bring up the 2 dps who went down (for standing in crap) on the last
>boss between the trash and boss. I never had mana issues...Was
>throwing out as fast as I could and never dropped below 50% (except
>where the mana void and those little blobs temporarily sucked it out of
>you)...Wonder if I should reforge for more haste? I finished in a
>respectable 4th in overall healing my first time in (1st was 19%, I was
>4th with 14.5%), so not shabby. Was in with 3 priests, me and another
>druid, and one pally heals. Preists were top 3 in heals, but also all 3
>were way tops in overheals, and not one of any heals except the two
>druids did any dispelling....Had 100 dispells between the 2 of us,
>roughly evenly split...Pally was bottom on everything...Not sure why. I
>was "just" in there with an ilevel of 372, so I'm not sure if he was
>akf, dps'ing or just not a decent healer....

I find priests usually are top in healing in my runs too, either me or
another priest. Our aoe healing capability is amazing at present which
helps a lot - the overheal will I bet be mainly from the amount of aoe
heals we do, since PoH and Sanctuary aren't "smart", they just heal
everybody. CoH and Hymn pick the most damaged so don't tend to
overheal much. The hardest bit is managing it so I don't just spam aoe
heals when they're not needed and run oom, I'm getting there, but
often need to give it everything.

Cant say I've ever notices much dispels needed tbh! 2nd boss (I think?
Might be 3rd) does something that hits a few at once so I mass dispel
that, but that's all I usually notice. Perhaps there's other abilities
which aren't magic/disease though, since I can't dispel
curses/poisons.

>> Looking forward to trying as dps for a change but none of my dpsers
>> are anywhere near the required gear lvl yet; I'll have to brave the
>> 5-mans first!
>
>Brave them! The lower ones are so nerfed right now, and as a dps, it
>doesnt matter if you are 3rd...who cares? Just don't stand in crap and
>your fine! :)

Hehe true, meaning the new 5-mans though :-) Theres often a difference
between healing something and dpsing it: dpsers have to know what mob
to hit first and so on, healers just have to react to stuff :-)

>> I've healed that trash a load of times and wasn't even aware that was
>> avoidable, seems to me like random hits on random people, unless I
>> missed something lol; I'll pay more attention next time (I do tend to
>> get tunnel vision on Grid on that trash since it is just whack-a-mole
>> trying to heal everyone fast), but I've been hit by it myself and
>> never seen anything there to avoid! If it is avoidable then I'll pay a
>> LOT more attention in future, I'd just assumed it was just a random
>> dmg to annoy the healers kinda deal :-P
>
>I could be unavoidable...I don't know. I've seen the stuff fly out and
>it looks like if your paying attention you can strafe to the side, but
>my GTFO didn't go off (because it's not somthing you stand in) so I
>really didn't think it was a big deal. Some people getting hit with
>that took them down 3/4. It usually oly hit one person at a time, so
>not *too* big a deal on heals, but if I can help by NOT getting hit, I'm
>sure they'd appreciate it..I know I would. :)

Hehe yeah, I go oom on that trash, and never on any other trash,
because I have to spam flash heal (expensive and inefficient, but
fast), since no aoe heals are any use when everyone's scattered on 5
different tentacles and there's never more than 2 people in the same
group who are damaged :-( I should probably switch to single target
chakra for that trash tbh, will try that next time.

>GTFO is my biggest friend next to DBM....esp as a healer. I get the
>buzzer going the split second before I start getting hit for standing in
>something, which snaps me out of my Healbot tunnel vision. lol

Hehe :-) I find DBM tends to yell at me about anything really bad,
luckily, it's rare I get caught out now, although I'll watch out for
that black stuff you mention!
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest) Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (85 Troll Shaman) Eilnich (85 Blood Elf Warlock)
Ruire (85 Blood Elf Paladin) Balgair (82 Human Rogue)
Dubh (80 Orc Death Knight) Rosad (73 Human Warlock)

S U N risr

1/17/2012 6:47:00 PM

0

On 1/17/2012 12:40 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:23:08 -0500, IYM<"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2012 9:48 AM, Catriona R wrote:
>>>

>>>
>>> I've only done it as healer and it's pretty fun, just spam my aoe
>>> heals a lot lol.
>>
>> Resto druids don't have a lot of AoE heals....Have Wild growth (5 of the
>> most seriously hurt get it), but have a lot of HoT's...So I ended up
>> starting by getting 3 stacks of LB on the main tank, rejuv and regrowth
>> running, swiftmend when it's up, and just kept them going...Then wild
>> growth to the raid whenever it was up, and spot healed the rest as
>> needed. On spikes, I healed through best I could, then tranquility to
>> bring everyone up....Lather, rinse, repeat...
>
> Thought you had whatever it is that puts that nice green circle on the
> ground too (sorry, don't know the name :-)).

Evan...Evanescence..crap - that's a band...Efflorescence?....Aww,
hell.."The nice green circle on the ground" Yes, that happens when I
hit swiftmend....Only problem is that people have to actually be *in* it
to get any benefit. Not so much a big deal if everyone is stacked up,
but if spread out or running around...not so good, except for the one I
cast it on. Besides, what the spell actually is doing is taking a renew
or regrowth HoT and taking the entire heal they were going to get as a
HoT, and dumping that into the person all at once. So I can cast renew
or regrowth, cast swiftmend (converting one of the HoT's into an instant
heal dump), then recast whichever spell it dumped right away again. I
never really saw *how* much the numbers were beneficial to those in the
circle...Put it this way, When I cast swiftmend, it's not like everyone
in that circle gets a huge heal... :)

>
> I find priests usually are top in healing in my runs too, either me or
> another priest. Our aoe healing capability is amazing at present which
> helps a lot - the overheal will I bet be mainly from the amount of aoe
> heals we do, since PoH and Sanctuary aren't "smart", they just heal
> everybody. CoH and Hymn pick the most damaged so don't tend to
> overheal much. The hardest bit is managing it so I don't just spam aoe
> heals when they're not needed and run oom, I'm getting there, but
> often need to give it everything.
>
> Cant say I've ever notices much dispels needed tbh! 2nd boss (I think?
> Might be 3rd) does something that hits a few at once so I mass dispel
> that, but that's all I usually notice. Perhaps there's other abilities
> which aren't magic/disease though, since I can't dispel
> curses/poisons.

Maybe someone else is doing it then? Should check your recount after a
run and look to see what the dispells were. Basically, like your heals,
I played whack-a-mole every time someone's bar turned blue (on Vuhdoo
anyway, which is what I use)

>
>>> Looking forward to trying as dps for a change but none of my dpsers
>>> are anywhere near the required gear lvl yet; I'll have to brave the
>>> 5-mans first!
>>
>> Brave them! The lower ones are so nerfed right now, and as a dps, it
>> doesnt matter if you are 3rd...who cares? Just don't stand in crap and
>> your fine! :)
>
> Hehe true, meaning the new 5-mans though :-) Theres often a difference
> between healing something and dpsing it: dpsers have to know what mob
> to hit first and so on, healers just have to react to stuff :-)

Ahh, ok then - I use a simple "focus macro" that was required in my
guild, and have it assigned to my #1 key. Basically, the very first
thing you do when getting into the instance, is right click the tank's
portrait and hit "set focus". Now, every time you hit the #1 key, your
looking at what the tank is looking at. So as ranged for example, the
tank pulls and you wait a sec (2 seconds if a bear) then hit your #1 key
and attack till dead, then hit your #1 key again and it'll pick up his
new target. Unless for some readon your not supposed to in which case
tank will usually mark the target order. But the focus macro works nice
if you single targeting trash mobs. I can post it here if I can
remember to write it down. I have two versions. One for ranged, and
one for melee which also started auto-attack after hitting #1. You do
*NOT* want to use the one with auto-attack hunter. If you ever seen a
hunter do that one shot before the tank pulls, that's usually why. He
hit ta focus macro to see what the tank is looking at for the next
pull....and fired..whoops....There are usually a "sorry" and "huntard"
comments after that....lol :)


>
>> GTFO is my biggest friend next to DBM....esp as a healer. I get the
>> buzzer going the split second before I start getting hit for standing in
>> something, which snaps me out of my Healbot tunnel vision. lol
>
> Hehe :-) I find DBM tends to yell at me about anything really bad,
> luckily, it's rare I get caught out now, although I'll watch out for
> that black stuff you mention

You should really try out GTFO and see what it does and if you like
it.....very,very small add-on, but really helpful and totally
recommended by your's truly. The buzzer automatically makes me hit "q"
and space (or 'e' and space) as soon as I hear it, no matter what I'm
doing, saving precious healer mana...You can always take it out if you
don't like it. :) lol
!

Catriona R

1/17/2012 7:11:00 PM

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:47:00 -0500, IYM <"S u nrisr"@optonline.net>
wrote:

>On 1/17/2012 12:40 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>> Thought you had whatever it is that puts that nice green circle on the
>> ground too (sorry, don't know the name :-)).
>
>Evan...Evanescence..crap - that's a band...Efflorescence?....Aww,
>hell.."The nice green circle on the ground" Yes, that happens when I
>hit swiftmend....Only problem is that people have to actually be *in* it
>to get any benefit. Not so much a big deal if everyone is stacked up,
>but if spread out or running around...not so good, except for the one I
>cast it on. Besides, what the spell actually is doing is taking a renew
>or regrowth HoT and taking the entire heal they were going to get as a
>HoT, and dumping that into the person all at once. So I can cast renew
>or regrowth, cast swiftmend (converting one of the HoT's into an instant
>heal dump), then recast whichever spell it dumped right away again. I
>never really saw *how* much the numbers were beneficial to those in the
>circle...Put it this way, When I cast swiftmend, it's not like everyone
>in that circle gets a huge heal... :)

Heh well luckily people do stack a lot in this raid, and yours only
seems to hit 3 at a time anyway, so doesn't matter if the whole raid
isn't stacked - mine can hit all 25 at once if they're all stacked
(although it says it heals for less if they are; I believe the tooltip
may be wrong though)

Efflorescence Rank 3
Your Swiftmend spell causes healing flora to sprout beneath the
target, restoring health equal to 12% of the amount healed by your
Swiftmend to the three most injured targets within 8 yards, every 1
sec for 7 sec.

I like the sound of that tbh, a smart heal that's area-based, pretty
cool. At least, if the people needing heals are close together. 12%*7
would be 84% of your Swiftmend heal to another 3 people, seems nice to
me :-)

>> Hehe true, meaning the new 5-mans though :-) Theres often a difference
>> between healing something and dpsing it: dpsers have to know what mob
>> to hit first and so on, healers just have to react to stuff :-)
>
>Ahh, ok then - I use a simple "focus macro" that was required in my
>guild, and have it assigned to my #1 key. Basically, the very first
>thing you do when getting into the instance, is right click the tank's
>portrait and hit "set focus". Now, every time you hit the #1 key, your
>looking at what the tank is looking at. So as ranged for example, the
>tank pulls and you wait a sec (2 seconds if a bear) then hit your #1 key
>and attack till dead, then hit your #1 key again and it'll pick up his
>new target. Unless for some readon your not supposed to in which case
>tank will usually mark the target order. But the focus macro works nice
>if you single targeting trash mobs. I can post it here if I can
>remember to write it down. I have two versions. One for ranged, and
>one for melee which also started auto-attack after hitting #1. You do
>*NOT* want to use the one with auto-attack hunter. If you ever seen a
>hunter do that one shot before the tank pulls, that's usually why. He
>hit ta focus macro to see what the tank is looking at for the next
>pull....and fired..whoops....There are usually a "sorry" and "huntard"
>comments after that....lol :)

Hehe :-D The problem with assisting the tank is with tanks who swap
targets a lot - I gave up on that long ago after regularly finding
myself on the "wrong" mob after assisting the tank. Well I'm not a
mind-reader, if he changes target constantly and won't mark anything,
how can I tell what the "right" one is? Wasn't just once, it was
almost every run so unless tanks actually stick to one target
nowadays, I can't see it helping much... :-P
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John Gordon

1/17/2012 7:56:00 PM

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In <9nlq42Ff4U1@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> writes:

> Cant say I've ever notices much dispels needed tbh! 2nd boss (I think?
> Might be 3rd) does something that hits a few at once so I mass dispel
> that, but that's all I usually notice.

Does mass dispel work for you in that situation?

As far as I've seen, if you cast mass dispel on a group of more than ten
people, it picks random targets and can easily miss some of the people
who actually need dispelling.

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Catriona R

1/17/2012 8:57:00 PM

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:56:15 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon
<gordon@panix.com> wrote:

>In <9nlq42Ff4U1@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Cant say I've ever notices much dispels needed tbh! 2nd boss (I think?
>> Might be 3rd) does something that hits a few at once so I mass dispel
>> that, but that's all I usually notice.
>
>Does mass dispel work for you in that situation?
>
>As far as I've seen, if you cast mass dispel on a group of more than ten
>people, it picks random targets and can easily miss some of the people
>who actually need dispelling.

I haven't actually observed that myself but apparently it is a known
issues, next patch's notes include:

Mass Dispel should again prefer dispelling targets that have magic
effects that can be dispelled.

Personally I've not noticed any problem anyway, but I assume it is a
problem if they need to patch it!
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deathsabyss

1/17/2012 11:57:00 PM

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I think it was Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> that wrote
something like...

>>Ahh, ok then - I use a simple "focus macro" that was required in my
>>guild, and have it assigned to my #1 key. Basically, the very first
>>thing you do when getting into the instance, is right click the tank's
>>portrait and hit "set focus". Now, every time you hit the #1 key, your
>>looking at what the tank is looking at. So as ranged for example, the
>>tank pulls and you wait a sec (2 seconds if a bear) then hit your #1 key
>>and attack till dead, then hit your #1 key again and it'll pick up his
>>new target. Unless for some readon your not supposed to in which case
>>tank will usually mark the target order. But the focus macro works nice
>>if you single targeting trash mobs. I can post it here if I can
>>remember to write it down. I have two versions. One for ranged, and
>>one for melee which also started auto-attack after hitting #1. You do
>>*NOT* want to use the one with auto-attack hunter. If you ever seen a
>>hunter do that one shot before the tank pulls, that's usually why. He
>>hit ta focus macro to see what the tank is looking at for the next
>>pull....and fired..whoops....There are usually a "sorry" and "huntard"
>>comments after that....lol :)
>
>Hehe :-D The problem with assisting the tank is with tanks who swap
>targets a lot - I gave up on that long ago after regularly finding
>myself on the "wrong" mob after assisting the tank. Well I'm not a
>mind-reader, if he changes target constantly and won't mark anything,
>how can I tell what the "right" one is? Wasn't just once, it was
>almost every run so unless tanks actually stick to one target
>nowadays, I can't see it helping much... :-P

As a tank half the time, I'd say just look to see which mob the tank
starts meleeing first and save your single target spells for that one.
Even if they change targets after a bit, chances are they can hold
agro even if you keep nuking that target unless you're massively more
geared than them.


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