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Debbie

12/15/2011 9:24:00 PM

My PC is:

Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
6 GB RAM
nVidia 550 ti graphics
Win 7 64 bit.

I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).
When I join a BG like AV/IoC and there are more than 20 people casting
spells my fps drops to 10 or so...
Only when I go somewhere without people and look at a floor or something I
get 100 fps.
When I look at my task manager I see my 4 cores are not even at 50% ever,
they are at 30-40% or so...
I had a much older graphics card and when I got a new one (the 1 I have now)
wow fps improved so little it wasnt even worth it (for wow) for 3-5 fps.

I also play battlefield 3 and this is a new game (1 month old) and the
graphics in that game are just amazing, and in BF3 I'm playing on high and I
have between 27-35 fps but the game has insane graphics... on the other hand
when I play BF3 all 4 proc cores are on 100%.

Since wow is so processor dependant why isnt it using the processor 100% and
giving decent performance? If I can play BF3 on high then wow should work on
ultra with 100 fps.


20 Answers

Catriona R

12/15/2011 9:53:00 PM

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:23:55 +0100, "Shammy" <none@nothing.com> wrote:

>My PC is:
>
>Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
>6 GB RAM
>nVidia 550 ti graphics
>Win 7 64 bit.
>
>I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
>looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).
>When I join a BG like AV/IoC and there are more than 20 people casting
>spells my fps drops to 10 or so...
>Only when I go somewhere without people and look at a floor or something I
>get 100 fps.
>When I look at my task manager I see my 4 cores are not even at 50% ever,
>they are at 30-40% or so...
>I had a much older graphics card and when I got a new one (the 1 I have now)
>wow fps improved so little it wasnt even worth it (for wow) for 3-5 fps.
>
>I also play battlefield 3 and this is a new game (1 month old) and the
>graphics in that game are just amazing, and in BF3 I'm playing on high and I
>have between 27-35 fps but the game has insane graphics... on the other hand
>when I play BF3 all 4 proc cores are on 100%.
>
>Since wow is so processor dependant why isnt it using the processor 100% and
>giving decent performance? If I can play BF3 on high then wow should work on
>ultra with 100 fps.

Afraid I can't be useful on the tech side of things but I've got
similar problems - WoW just seems intensive on everything, I guess, no
matter what I upgrade, something else is holding it back. My pc
overall isn't that old (3 years but it was very good when I bought
it), I replaced the graphics card a year ago and, um... well. So
little visible difference I felt I'd wasted my money, only bonus was
going up a screen res when I also replaced my monitor. It runs "ok" on
good level graphics, but running two clients, or going anywhere
populated (Org main AH/bank area lol - I live in the tauren part of
town as a result) means really low fps and pretty much grinding to a
halt if I'm running two copies of the game, which I do quite often,
sigh.

I *have* just made a sigificant improvement by getting a SSD and
putting my WoW folder on that instead of my old hard drive. Has only
improved framerates a little (put everything up to ultra for a minute,
regretted that one fast and put it back to good!) but load times, oh
wow. I timed my old hard drive install, from hitting enter world to
loading, and the fog dispersing so I can see everything: 1m25s. Same
on the SSD: 17s. Even running two clients, it's so very much faster,
I'm way happy with that. it's also improved somewhat in busy areas, in
that I can actually go to the front of Org without it turning into a
slideshow - if I'm running *one* client, anyway, two is a bit much
still. So yeah, not a big framerate buff but it's massive for slow
loadscreens anyway.

Guess I'll have to go for new CPU next, I think that's my bottleneck
regarding framerates, my RAM and motherboard could use a look too so
someday (not too soon, I'm out of money after many recent expenses!)
I'll do all three at once and pray that fixes it - I would *love* to
run graphics on ultra, whenever I try the game looks fantastic, it's
just not very playable... :-P
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Michael C

12/15/2011 10:18:00 PM

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>
>Since wow is so processor dependant why isnt it using the processor 100%
>and giving decent performance? If I can play BF3 on high then wow should
>work on ultra with 100 fps.

Any idea if you are on DirectX 11? That gives quite a good performance
boost.



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John Gordon

12/15/2011 10:57:00 PM

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In <jcdohv$bp7$1@sunce.iskon.hr> "Shammy" <none@nothing.com> writes:

> Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
> 6 GB RAM
> nVidia 550 ti graphics
> Win 7 64 bit.

> I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
> looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).

Do you have high-quality shadows turned on? I've noticed that makes
a lot of difference.

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usenet

12/16/2011 10:40:00 AM

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John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> wrote:

> In <jcdohv$bp7$1@sunce.iskon.hr> "Shammy" <none@nothing.com> writes:
>
> > Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
> > 6 GB RAM
> > nVidia 550 ti graphics
> > Win 7 64 bit.
>
> > I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
> > looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).
>
> Do you have high-quality shadows turned on? I've noticed that makes
> a lot of difference.

Yup, shadows is the real killer. I have an i7 with a 6970HD card, and I
can't even run it with full shadows :D

Admittedly i'm running it at a stupidly high resolution (2048*something
or other I think, I run my PC plugged into my 27" iMac monitor)

T.



S U N risr

12/16/2011 12:29:00 PM

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On 12/15/2011 4:23 PM, Shammy wrote:
> My PC is:
>
> Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
> 6 GB RAM
> nVidia 550 ti graphics
> Win 7 64 bit.
>
> I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
> looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).
> When I join a BG like AV/IoC and there are more than 20 people casting
> spells my fps drops to 10 or so...
> Only when I go somewhere without people and look at a floor or something
> I get 100 fps.
> When I look at my task manager I see my 4 cores are not even at 50%
> ever, they are at 30-40% or so...
> I had a much older graphics card and when I got a new one (the 1 I have
> now) wow fps improved so little it wasnt even worth it (for wow) for 3-5
> fps.
>
> I also play battlefield 3 and this is a new game (1 month old) and the
> graphics in that game are just amazing, and in BF3 I'm playing on high
> and I have between 27-35 fps but the game has insane graphics... on the
> other hand when I play BF3 all 4 proc cores are on 100%.
>
> Since wow is so processor dependant why isnt it using the processor 100%
> and giving decent performance? If I can play BF3 on high then wow should
> work on ultra with 100 fps.
>
>

I play on a i7-870 (2.93ghz), with 8 gigs of SDRAM and a ATI Radeon HD
5770 (1gig) video card for the last year running on full out ultra
settings. I get no lag (about 90-100 world and home) and frame rates in
busy areas are about 30-40fps, 40-60fps in raids and around 90fps out on
my own....The reason I'm mentioning all that crap is that there have
been a couple times where after I logged on I felt as if I were playing
on a Pentium iii. Most times, the issues popped up after patches, but
sometimes just out of the blue - but in every case ended up being caused
by one add-on.

If you haven't tried, one suggestion I can offer is to disable all
add-on's and then log in. If your trouble goes away, you can try
logging out and in turning one on at a time until the problem comes back
to track down which add-on could be giving you the headache. I use a
bunch of add-ons, so to speed up the analysis, I would turn on 3-5 at a
time until the pc slowed to trace it.

It's a pain to track it down, but at least you can quickly find out in 2
minutes if the problem is an add on in the first place...

It's just my 2-cents as I didn't see it mentioned...

Debbie

12/16/2011 4:52:00 PM

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"Trooper" <usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:1kcd6p6.naqxaa1kbjet5N%usenet@trooperlooper.co.uk.invalid...
> John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> In <jcdohv$bp7$1@sunce.iskon.hr> "Shammy" <none@nothing.com> writes:
>>
>> > Intel Q6600 overclocked from 2400 to 3000 MHz
>> > 6 GB RAM
>> > nVidia 550 ti graphics
>> > Win 7 64 bit.
>>
>> > I play wow on medium settings and I get barely 27 fps in orgrimmar when
>> > looking at like 20 people or less (looking at the main AH).
>>
>> Do you have high-quality shadows turned on? I've noticed that makes
>> a lot of difference.
>
> Yup, shadows is the real killer. I have an i7 with a 6970HD card, and I
> can't even run it with full shadows :D
>
> Admittedly i'm running it at a stupidly high resolution (2048*something
> or other I think, I run my PC plugged into my 27" iMac monitor)
>
> T.


I had shadows on good, I tried to put them on low but didnt gain anything
much maybe 1-2 fps.

Debbie

12/16/2011 5:08:00 PM

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>
> Any idea if you are on DirectX 11? That gives quite a good performance
> boost.
>
>

I can't use DX11 even though I have a DX11 card for the simple reason that
blizzard screwed up with viewport addons, I'm using a viewport addon to make
a different rendering size screen and when you enable DX11 it's all screwed
up :( They know it's a bug but I guess they dont really care.

Debbie

12/16/2011 5:32:00 PM

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I tried without addons, it's a bit better but the problem is still there.
The real question is why isnt wow using 100% processor power and giving
better performace? Why is it using like 30-40% of the processor only?

John Gordon

12/16/2011 5:36:00 PM

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In <jcfvar$o31$1@sunce.iskon.hr> "Shammy" <none@nothing.com> writes:

> I tried without addons, it's a bit better but the problem is still there.
> The real question is why isnt wow using 100% processor power and giving
> better performace? Why is it using like 30-40% of the processor only?

If your problem is low framerate, I don't see how more CPU would help.
It's a graphics issue, which is coming from your graphics card, not
your CPU.

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Debbie

12/16/2011 6:56:00 PM

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I will get a SSD as soon as I can :) I'm waiting for bigger ones to become
cheaper, at least 250-500 GB.
The problem in wow is that even though my processor would be fast enough to
run in ultra on 100% proc usage it's using 30-40% and barely playable on
good :(