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neithskye

10/21/2011 1:58:00 PM

Just wondered if anyone else was having a hard time this year putting
out the fires in Razor Hill or Brill (and the Alliance equiavalents)
set by the HH?

This is my fourth Hallow's End. First few days, there are usually tons
of people helping. This year, the first day it started, I dashed off
to Razor Hill . . . and I was the only one there.

I came home from work last night, dashed off to Brill at 9 p.m. EST
(i.e., prime-time hour) and there were two other people there.

I can't do this daily; there just aren't the people as there were in
previous years. At least on my server.

(On an unrelated note, my computer seems to hate Brill. Whenever those
fires burn, it goes down to 9 FPS. I can barely move. The minute I get
back to the water bucket, it's fine, but running back to put out a
fire . . . molasses city. I do not get this problem in Razor Hill, and
I have never before in previous years had this problem with Brill.)

--
Jill
8 Answers

Catriona R

10/21/2011 2:12:00 PM

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:58:06 -0700 (PDT), neithskye
<jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Just wondered if anyone else was having a hard time this year putting
>out the fires in Razor Hill or Brill (and the Alliance equiavalents)
>set by the HH?
>
>This is my fourth Hallow's End. First few days, there are usually tons
>of people helping. This year, the first day it started, I dashed off
>to Razor Hill . . . and I was the only one there.
>
>I came home from work last night, dashed off to Brill at 9 p.m. EST
>(i.e., prime-time hour) and there were two other people there.
>
>I can't do this daily; there just aren't the people as there were in
>previous years. At least on my server.

Yeah I'm finding it tricky, managed ok the first day or two but now
it's not easy. I've read that apparently the Blood Elf and Draenei
starting zone fires are much easier to put out if that's any help,
they can be duoed or even soloed with a speed buff, so perhaps that
might help a little - I may have to try it myself for some alts if
things don't get busier soon.

>(On an unrelated note, my computer seems to hate Brill. Whenever those
>fires burn, it goes down to 9 FPS. I can barely move. The minute I get
>back to the water bucket, it's fine, but running back to put out a
>fire . . . molasses city. I do not get this problem in Razor Hill, and
>I have never before in previous years had this problem with Brill.)

Eep, that sucks :-/ Might be that Brill has new buildings, probably
higher res than the ones in Razor Hill which look the same as they
always were in vanilla.
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (85 Troll Shaman)
Eilnich (85 Blood Elf Warlock)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)

S U N risr

10/21/2011 2:50:00 PM

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On 10/21/2011 9:58 AM, neithskye wrote:
> Just wondered if anyone else was having a hard time this year putting
> out the fires in Razor Hill or Brill (and the Alliance equiavalents)
> set by the HH?
>
> This is my fourth Hallow's End. First few days, there are usually tons
> of people helping. This year, the first day it started, I dashed off
> to Razor Hill . . . and I was the only one there.
>
> I came home from work last night, dashed off to Brill at 9 p.m. EST
> (i.e., prime-time hour) and there were two other people there.
>
> I can't do this daily; there just aren't the people as there were in
> previous years. At least on my server.
>
> (On an unrelated note, my computer seems to hate Brill. Whenever those
> fires burn, it goes down to 9 FPS. I can barely move. The minute I get
> back to the water bucket, it's fine, but running back to put out a
> fire . . . molasses city. I do not get this problem in Razor Hill, and
> I have never before in previous years had this problem with Brill.)
>
> --
> Jill

Hey Jill -

I'm on your server, so I know what you speak of. This is the first
year I have Horde toons in an alliance "sister" guild my ally guild has.
I typically log on my mains on the ally side first to do my fishing &
cooking dallies, and I have 2 of my 4 85's there that do not have the HH
mount, so I que up on those. Don't need anything else from him. I will
check out Goldshire tonight to see what it's like. I have the achieves
on 3 of them, so I didn't make the trip out. I just thought it was a
Horde thing that they just didn't do them, but will check it out. My
guild is on a break right now as 3/4 of the raid team left to check out
Rift as they were "wowed out" so I'm not on any raid schedule, which in
a way is a kinda nice break, a disappointed as I was at first. I do
what I want, when I want and pug when I feel like it...

Now, on my Horde 85, I went down to the town south of Org last night
(about 9pm server time) and must have gotten lucky as there were a bunch
of people doing it, BUT not a ton so first attempt failed. A few more
showed up for the next one and we succeeded. Didn't think much of it,
but went back down to the same place about 1-1/2 hours later with my 38
preist and there were 2-3 of us trying. Needless to say, when the HH
said that the fires still burn and his time grows short, I just stopped.
All three building were still on fire and there was no way 3 people
were going to put it out. This was about 10:30ish server time
maybe...can't remember - maybe you were the other person running around
with me... lol

Anyway - maybe better luck tonight... :) But my two horde toons are a
female 85 Belf Warlock named "Dotwench" or male 38 undead preist named
"Uglymutha", so you can wave and say hi! lol

(and btw - I know the names are a little borderline, but they were made
as a joke with all intentions of deleting them over a year ago when we
were fooling around, and I ended up leveling them a bit at a time...I do
get a lot of laughs and comments in runs about great names, esp the
lock. My Ally toon names are all so proper....lmao)

John Gordon

10/21/2011 2:51:00 PM

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In <j7s0i5$pl6$1@dont-email.me> IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> writes:

> Now, on my Horde 85, I went down to the town south of Org last night
> (about 9pm server time) and must have gotten lucky as there were a bunch
> of people doing it, BUT not a ton so first attempt failed. A few more
> showed up for the next one and we succeeded. Didn't think much of it,

I think the fires are doable with only a few people if you're organized,
i.e. form a bucket line instead of each person individually running back
and forth to the well.

--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

S U N risr

10/21/2011 3:07:00 PM

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On 10/21/2011 10:51 AM, John Gordon wrote:
> In<j7s0i5$pl6$1@dont-email.me> IYM<"S U N risr"@optonline.net> writes:
>
>> Now, on my Horde 85, I went down to the town south of Org last night
>> (about 9pm server time) and must have gotten lucky as there were a bunch
>> of people doing it, BUT not a ton so first attempt failed. A few more
>> showed up for the next one and we succeeded. Didn't think much of it,
>
> I think the fires are doable with only a few people if you're organized,
> i.e. form a bucket line instead of each person individually running back
> and forth to the well.
>

I should have defined a "bunch" and a "ton" (or tonne for you metric
folks! lol)

The bunch were maybe about 8-9...we ended up completing it with maybe
12-13ish? But I still don't think 3 people can do it, bucket line and
all...

neithskye

10/21/2011 6:16:00 PM

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On Oct 21, 10:50 am, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:

>  All three building were still on fire and there was no way 3 people
> were going to put it out.  This was about 10:30ish server time
> maybe...can't remember - maybe you were the other person running around
> with me... lol

OoO. Could have been! Because I did try Razor Hill at some point, and
that happened to me - couldn't do it one try, got it the next (didn't
mean to imply from my post that I *never* got this daily done, since I
have completed it twice this year, just that I'm finding it much
harder this year).

Anyway, a bunch of us tried, but couldn't do it. I remember a low-
level toon saying something like, "y i no get quest dun" or something,
and an 85 Priest said, "Because we fail", which I thought was harsh,
since we were trying, there just wasn't enough of us.

Then the next try we did get it. Maybe the trick it to attempt it the
second the event starts, and douse the "prime" fires before they have
a chance for their sparks to start too many little fires.

> Anyway - maybe better luck tonight... :)  But my two horde toons are a
> female 85 Belf Warlock named "Dotwench" or male 38 undead preist named
> "Uglymutha", so you can wave and say hi!  lol

I'll watch out for you! The only toons I am likely to be on are my
Paladin main named Mercader (he's in T12 and it's much shinier than it
looks in pictures, so he's reeeally hard to miss lol) and Itztoci my
warrior. I only made her in the summer so this is her first Hallow's
End.

> My guild is on a break right now as 3/4 of the raid team left to check out
> Rift as they were "wowed out" so I'm not on any raid schedule, which in
> a way is a kinda nice break, a disappointed as I was at first.

Well, I'm in the same boat. We went from doing Rag attempts two months
ago to not even having enough people on to raid. I know some of our
guild have particular circumstances at the moment (a lot are in the
army, for example, and keep getting shipped to distant locations),
while others I know simply can no longer afford the game time, but
it's really, really frustrating. I want to raid, and I can't.

So last night I log in. Seven people on. Can't raid. Hey! Yes! A
healer CTA for Heroics. There's hardly ever a healer CTA! Queue. Get
Grim Batol, just after first boss. Party, who is all from the same
guild, pull the three casters, the Gronn dude, and the Forgemaster all
at the same time. DPS is doing 5K-6K each. No one is interrupting the
DoT. Wipe.

I run back in. Two people don't rez. Seven minutes go by. "What's the
hold up? I type. "We're having a guild meeting" came the reply. "You
going to be much longer?" Tank leaves. DPS leave. I leave. Guess
what?! No more healer CTA. Grrrr . . .

Check guild roster. Eight people on. Le sigh. Guess I'll go put out
fires. Yup. Me, and this other guy. Can't raid. Can't put out fires. I
have nothing left I can buy from valor points, so don't want to run
Heroics. Gah. So bored.

--
Jill

S U N risr

10/21/2011 7:48:00 PM

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On 10/21/2011 2:16 PM, neithskye wrote:
> On Oct 21, 10:50 am, IYM<"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:

>
>> Anyway - maybe better luck tonight... :) But my two horde toons are a
>> female 85 Belf Warlock named "Dotwench" or male 38 undead preist named
>> "Uglymutha", so you can wave and say hi! lol
>
> I'll watch out for you! The only toons I am likely to be on are my
> Paladin main named Mercader (he's in T12 and it's much shinier than it
> looks in pictures, so he's reeeally hard to miss lol) and Itztoci my
> warrior. I only made her in the summer so this is her first Hallow's
> End.

kk- Will keep an eye out :)

As these are my first Horde toons, so this is their first Halloween...

>
>> My guild is on a break right now as 3/4 of the raid team left to check out
>> Rift as they were "wowed out" so I'm not on any raid schedule, which in
>> a way is a kinda nice break, a disappointed as I was at first.
>

> So last night I log in. Seven people on. Can't raid. Hey! Yes! A
> healer CTA for Heroics. There's hardly ever a healer CTA! Queue. Get
> Grim Batol, just after first boss. Party, who is all from the same
> guild, pull the three casters, the Gronn dude, and the Forgemaster all
> at the same time. DPS is doing 5K-6K each. No one is interrupting the
> DoT. Wipe.

Now this I will say I and my guldies notice on our realm - The
differences between Ally and Horde is pretty interesting. All my heroic
runs on the Horde side all the players with very rare exceptions are
pretty low gear and dps wise. Quite a few wipes, and tons of mistakes
in places that I'm like "come on, really?". Seems there are very few
runs where there are well geared players looking for quick valors. Dps
averages 8k to maybe 15K overall. I'm enjoying it because it feels like
I'm running it more at level then blasting through, which is what
running heroics 90% of the time on the ally side is like. Lot of people
on that side still run heroics for quick valor, clearing Grim Batol for
example in maybe 15 minutes(ish). DPS on those runs is typically
averaging in the the 20k's....I now cannot get anything more with
valor's on my mage, but the last few times through for my last pc, I was
seeing if I could break 30K dps for overall on a dungeon...(did for
bosses, but just couldn't for and overall) It's not uncommon to get a
random with 2 or 3 defender of shattered world title... It seems that on
the Horde side, once you can move up you never run the other stuff
anymore?...Guess they move up and never look back for the most part.

The other thing majorly different is the AH...Ally side is loaded with
mats for professions and gear - Horde side I can list crafted gear from
my tailoring that sells for 8-900K and it sells by the next day where I
can't give it away on my Ally tailor...

Not complaining or anything on either of these points, just
interestingly different... :)


> Check guild roster. Eight people on. Le sigh. Guess I'll go put out
> fires. Yup. Me, and this other guy. Can't raid. Can't put out fires. I
> have nothing left I can buy from valor points, so don't want to run
> Heroics. Gah. So bored.

Same boat on my ally toons....All decked in some FL raid gear, valor
bought and Fireland dailies gear...Have the mount on all of them...One
thing I never did before on any toon was fishing and cooking, so I'm
doing that on my main ally just to do it...it's fun, but I'm almost
maxed now.

I'm leveling my 38 horde holy priest entirely (after experiencing the
new undead starting quests) through the dungeons as I really never did
any of the lower dungeons on any toon, as I quested, so that's been some
fun. Healing through levels in dungeons sure takes the learning curve
and frustrations out. I started healing on my druid at 80 and it took a
long time to get out the fear factor of what I could handle. I don't
think twice about queing for a pug healing now.

I'll keep an eye out for you though - I'd be nice to run into someone
from the group in game.... :)

Thomas Hejl Pilgaard

10/22/2011 6:51:00 AM

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On 21-10-2011 17:07, IYM uttered:
> On 10/21/2011 10:51 AM, John Gordon wrote:
>> In<j7s0i5$pl6$1@dont-email.me> IYM<"S U N risr"@optonline.net> writes:
>>
>>> Now, on my Horde 85, I went down to the town south of Org last night
>>> (about 9pm server time) and must have gotten lucky as there were a bunch
>>> of people doing it, BUT not a ton so first attempt failed. A few more
>>> showed up for the next one and we succeeded. Didn't think much of it,
>>
>> I think the fires are doable with only a few people if you're organized,
>> i.e. form a bucket line instead of each person individually running back
>> and forth to the well.
>>
>
> I should have defined a "bunch" and a "ton" (or tonne for you metric
> folks! lol)
>
> The bunch were maybe about 8-9...we ended up completing it with maybe
> 12-13ish? But I still don't think 3 people can do it, bucket line and
> all...

I've taken part in succesful 4-5 man organized bucket line attempts.
There are a number of essential strategies involved, the first is by
FAR the most important:

1. EVERYONE focus on the same building, finish it - then move on.
2. Bucket lines for the buildings you can't reach without moving.
3. Aim between 2 close fires, to douse them both with one bucket.

If this all clicks, then 3 people might just get it in the very last
second.

usenet

10/24/2011 8:29:00 AM

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IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:


> I'm leveling my 38 horde holy priest entirely (after experiencing the
> new undead starting quests) through the dungeons as I really never did
> any of the lower dungeons on any toon, as I quested, so that's been some
> fun. Healing through levels in dungeons sure takes the learning curve
> and frustrations out. I started healing on my druid at 80 and it took a
> long time to get out the fear factor of what I could handle. I don't
> think twice about queing for a pug healing now.
>

Same here, although I haven't loaded Moolly in a couple of weeks.
Healing is actually really easy at the lower levels, it's basically
whack-a-mole if you have the right addons :)
L52 now, I might do another 7 runs this week.

T.