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ToolPackinMama

9/2/2011 5:16:00 AM

I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.

Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
Guy1: Keep wishing
Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
Guy3: I agree

Me: /drop group
15 Answers

S U N risr

9/2/2011 11:56:00 AM

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On 9/2/2011 1:15 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.
>
> Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
> Guy1: Keep wishing
> Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
> Guy3: I agree
>
> Me: /drop group

yea, sometimes - but rarely it goes that way for me anyway. I've been
on a rash of good luck lately with groups so I can't complain. I que'd
the other day and drew Deadmines. Every time, I sigh because I just
want to run through and there are a few dungeons that could take
forever, depending on experience. Deadmines are one - It's long, and if
no-one knows the foe reaper 5000 fight, it could be a frustrating
experience. Stonecore used to be real bad on pugs, but people are
muscling through on Ozruk now based on gear, so it's not as bad.
Blackrock I sweat when I see the load screen as I don't know if we're
going to get stuck on Corla as it's one of the very few instances that
everyone (or at min 4) *must* know how to get in and out of beams.

Anyway, (went OT - sorry) - Got deadmines and the tank never been there.
The group was one of the most helpful I'd ever seen, and it helped
that the tank was just a good skilled player that just knew how to tank,
picked up and adjusted fast..Very nice. But I admit, I sighed when he
mentioned he hadn't been there before. I got humbled and got my subtle
reminder to always give people a shot or two, and not to immediately get
irritated. :)

Oh - BTW, my rash of good luck was unreal last night. Logged in, que'd
up...9 min que time for dps. OK, that's pretty good. Time to go
fishing. At 8 min mark, I get called into SFK and I'm disoriented
trying to figure out where I am, when I realize I'm standing at the
bottom of the stairs at the last boss. 2 min later, I'm done with
valor. Cool. Que again, 10 min wait, get called into Stonecore as the
tank is about to pull the final boss...Wait, someone actually left or
was booted *after* Ozruk?!? wow...OK, 2 min later I'm out with 70 more
valor. Well, can't get any more valors from heroics this week, so que
for a ZA/ZG. 40 min wait, so back to fishing. 20 minutes later I get
called in. I enter and Holy crap - Have to start fighting as I got
called mid battle against the last spirit before the final boss with the
chains in ZG. One shot the boss and 3 min later back fishing.

I didn't que again, logged and relaxed questing while leveling an alt,
as I knew my luck wouldn't hold up and I wanted to end on a good note. 2
heroics, and a ZG completed in about 40 minutes as dps.... woot!

ToolPackinMama

9/2/2011 4:41:00 PM

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On 9/2/2011 7:56 AM, IYM wrote:

> Oh - BTW, my rash of good luck was unreal last night.

I liked your story. Gratz.

I too have had lots of good luck with groups, and they kind of spoiled
me so I don't put up with much LOL.

BTW speaking of the incident I mentioned... I was unfamiliar with the
dungeon - had never been there on any of my toons - so I had no way of
knowing how close to the end we were. I didn't know what to expect,
wasn't sure what I was fighting or how to handle them.

I had questions, but nobody was in the mood to answer any.

S U N risr

9/2/2011 6:15:00 PM

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On 9/2/2011 12:41 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 9/2/2011 7:56 AM, IYM wrote:
>
>> Oh - BTW, my rash of good luck was unreal last night.
>
> I liked your story. Gratz.
>
> I too have had lots of good luck with groups, and they kind of spoiled
> me so I don't put up with much LOL.
>
> BTW speaking of the incident I mentioned... I was unfamiliar with the
> dungeon - had never been there on any of my toons - so I had no way of
> knowing how close to the end we were. I didn't know what to expect,
> wasn't sure what I was fighting or how to handle them.
>
> I had questions, but nobody was in the mood to answer any.


Which Dungeon was it?

John Gordon

9/2/2011 6:16:00 PM

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In <j3r10c$5ks$1@dont-email.me> ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> writes:

> BTW speaking of the incident I mentioned... I was unfamiliar with the
> dungeon - had never been there on any of my toons - so I had no way of
> knowing how close to the end we were. I didn't know what to expect,
> wasn't sure what I was fighting or how to handle them.

In a situation like that, one strategy is to focus on another member of
the party who is the same type as yourself (ranged/melee) and just do
what they do. Move where they move, attack what they attack.

--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

S U N risr

9/2/2011 6:50:00 PM

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On 9/2/2011 2:15 PM, John Gordon wrote:
> In<j3r10c$5ks$1@dont-email.me> ToolPackinMama<philnblanc@comcast.net> writes:
>
>> BTW speaking of the incident I mentioned... I was unfamiliar with the
>> dungeon - had never been there on any of my toons - so I had no way of
>> knowing how close to the end we were. I didn't know what to expect,
>> wasn't sure what I was fighting or how to handle them.
>
> In a situation like that, one strategy is to focus on another member of
> the party who is the same type as yourself (ranged/melee) and just do
> what they do. Move where they move, attack what they attack.
>

What he said...It's much easier to "blend in" as dps, or heal if you are
not familiar with the instance than tank. But as John said, if your a
mage, for example, you can set your focus to another ranged like the
hunter or lock and stick near them and hit what they do (UNLESS
otherwise instructed by the tank)...in *many* cases, not all. There are
boss fights you need to spread out, etc. but nothing in any of the
regular cata dungeons should be that detrimental. If you are a cc
class, know your generic symbol (mage = moon, hunter = blue block, etc)
or read the chat if the tank specifies something else. Other than that,
you can get through the instance, and in most cases no one else would
know the better. If fact, many tanks que as dps the first couple times
in an instance they are not familiar with to get to learn the instances
(directions, bosses, abilities, as well as watch the tank to learn how
to tank it).


The other thing you can do if your just not comfortable doing that is to
que up for a specific dungeon, then do your homework and read up on an
instance or watch a tankspot video of it while your in que. Who said it
had to be random? After you run it, you'll be comfortable with it. Do
this for the few (or any) unfamiliar instances to you and then you can
que randoms without worry! :)

ASKF

9/3/2011 6:28:00 AM

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IYM ytrede sig i <j3r862$q7b$1@dont-email.me> med dette:

>On 9/2/2011 2:15 PM, John Gordon wrote:
>> In<j3r10c$5ks$1@dont-email.me> ToolPackinMama<philnblanc@comcast.net> writes:
>>
>>> BTW speaking of the incident I mentioned... I was unfamiliar with the
>>> dungeon - had never been there on any of my toons - so I had no way of
>>> knowing how close to the end we were. I didn't know what to expect,
>>> wasn't sure what I was fighting or how to handle them.
>>
>> In a situation like that, one strategy is to focus on another member of
>> the party who is the same type as yourself (ranged/melee) and just do
>> what they do. Move where they move, attack what they attack.
>>
>
>What he said...It's much easier to "blend in" as dps, or heal if you are
>not familiar with the instance than tank. But as John said, if your a
>mage, for example, you can set your focus to another ranged like the
>hunter or lock and stick near them and hit what they do (UNLESS
>otherwise instructed by the tank)...in *many* cases, not all. There are
>boss fights you need to spread out, etc. but nothing in any of the
>regular cata dungeons should be that detrimental. If you are a cc
>class, know your generic symbol (mage = moon, hunter = blue block, etc)
>or read the chat if the tank specifies something else. Other than that,
>you can get through the instance, and in most cases no one else would
>know the better. If fact, many tanks que as dps the first couple times
>in an instance they are not familiar with to get to learn the instances
>(directions, bosses, abilities, as well as watch the tank to learn how
>to tank it).
>
>
>The other thing you can do if your just not comfortable doing that is to
>que up for a specific dungeon, then do your homework and read up on an
>instance or watch a tankspot video of it while your in que. Who said it
>had to be random? After you run it, you'll be comfortable with it. Do
>this for the few (or any) unfamiliar instances to you and then you can
>que randoms without worry! :)

When I run with my mage, I always tell if I'm not familiar with fights
as dps, right from the start. At the same time I tell I've healed it a
lotta times as holy priest.
Next I say, tell me when I shall do more than dps and avoid damage.

Never experienced a goup that wasn't fine with that and did give hints.

As holy priest, I always ask if all are familiar with the instance, and
if not say so now, so you can be instructed about what to do.

I got macros for saying the stuff, and hardly ever meet anything but
positive responce from ppl.

Been over geard as healer for the hc for the last 3 month, but doubt
that is the reason ppl heed my 'call' to order, in disordered groups.

I know I'm rare, but if I meet a 'noop' player who admits, when I play
my holy priest. I gladly sticks with him/her and do more instances.
-- whipes doesn't matter, my guild is paying for repairs anyway --
chacing the achivement:-D

Repairs didn't matter before either though, because I have this belif:

Teach one to be better, then he/she will teach others too, and in the
end you will meet better players.
However slight an improvement is, it is none the less an improvement!
--
Allan Stig Kiilerich Frederiksen
"When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
-Myron Tribus

Lewis

9/6/2011 2:36:00 AM

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In message <j3poqe$7sk$1@dont-email.me>
ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
> I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.

> Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
> Guy1: Keep wishing
> Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
> Guy3: I agree

> Me: /drop group


Was Guy 2 a lvl 70 Female Paladin tank? If so, that was me


--
But of course there were the rules. Everyone knew there were rules. They
just had to hope like Hell that the gods knew the rules, too.

ToolPackinMama

9/6/2011 3:11:00 AM

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On 9/5/2011 10:36 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message<j3poqe$7sk$1@dont-email.me>
> ToolPackinMama<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.
>
>> Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
>> Guy1: Keep wishing
>> Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
>> Guy3: I agree
>
>> Me: /drop group
>
>
> Was Guy 2 a lvl 70 Female Paladin tank? If so, that was me
>
>

If that was you I trust you found a suitable replacement without any
trouble at all.

You have fun, now.


Lewis

9/6/2011 7:25:00 AM

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In message <j44312$f07$1@dont-email.me>
ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 9/5/2011 10:36 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message<j3poqe$7sk$1@dont-email.me>
>> ToolPackinMama<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.
>>
>>> Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
>>> Guy1: Keep wishing
>>> Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
>>> Guy3: I agree
>>
>>> Me: /drop group
>>
>>
>> Was Guy 2 a lvl 70 Female Paladin tank? If so, that was me

> If that was you I trust you found a suitable replacement without any
> trouble at all.

new DPS come in under a minute. The only thing you ever have to wait for
is tanks, really.

> You have fun, now.

The random dungeon finder is not the place to take a tour of an
instance. A lot of us have rather limited time and getting through fast
is critical. I you want a causal run, that's what your guild is for. Or
regular LFG.

--
The Auditors avoided death by never going so far as to get a life --The
Thief of Time

SandF

9/6/2011 12:17:00 PM

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"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnj6bimp.2r5m.g.kreme@ibook-g4-2.local...
> In message <j44312$f07$1@dont-email.me>
> ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 9/5/2011 10:36 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message<j3poqe$7sk$1@dont-email.me>
>>> ToolPackinMama<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I zoned into a dungeon and the team was setting a breathtaking pace.
>>>
>>>> Me: I wish we could slow down a bit. I have never been here.
>>>> Guy1: Keep wishing
>>>> Guy2: I wish you would STFU and DPS
>>>> Guy3: I agree
>>>
>>>> Me: /drop group
>>>
>>>
>>> Was Guy 2 a lvl 70 Female Paladin tank? If so, that was me
>
>> If that was you I trust you found a suitable replacement without any
>> trouble at all.
>
> new DPS come in under a minute. The only thing you ever have to wait for
> is tanks, really.
>
>> You have fun, now.
>
> The random dungeon finder is not the place to take a tour of an
> instance. A lot of us have rather limited time and getting through fast
> is critical. I you want a causal run, that's what your guild is for. Or
> regular LFG.
>
> --
> The Auditors avoided death by never going so far as to get a life --The
> Thief of Time

Because spending thirty seconds explaining a boss is faaaaar too much to ask
nowadays. Shameful, really.