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Millamber

7/8/2011 10:50:00 AM

Hi Guys,

I have just dinged 85 on my DK. While levelling i was using the blood spec,
mainly for the self healing.
I am lead to believe that the blood spec is now the tanking spec?
Is that correct?
if so what do you recomend as the best spec for a DK DPS?
And then what sort of rotation would you recomend.

I have tried google but there is a lot of conflicting advice.

Cheers,
Millamber, 85 DK
11 Answers

Debbie

7/8/2011 1:21:00 PM

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"Millamber" <scone@people.net.au> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I have just dinged 85 on my DK. While levelling i was using the blood
> spec, mainly for the self healing.
> I am lead to believe that the blood spec is now the tanking spec?
> Is that correct?
> if so what do you recomend as the best spec for a DK DPS?
> And then what sort of rotation would you recomend.
>
> I have tried google but there is a lot of conflicting advice.
>
> Cheers,
> Millamber, 85 DK
>
>

Yes blood is the tanking only spec now.
For dps you should go frost for sure, dont even think about unholy if you
want to be good.
I suggest you check
http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=10N&samples=200&spec=...
In that site you can see how is each spec doing on dps at this moment and as
you can see frost is the only DK dps spec worth taking.
I cant help you too much on rotatins as I havent played my dk lately and
considering the constant changes I might not give you the most ideal
rotation.
The problem with looking for advice about wow on the internet is that things
in wow change on each patch and 2 months old data can be really outdated and
wrong.
Your best bet is to look DK specific sites that update their rotations/spec
on each patch and look that the data provided is 4.2 updated.

SF

7/8/2011 3:34:00 PM

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Op 8-7-2011 15:21, Shammy schreef:
>
>
> For dps you should go frost for sure, dont even think about unholy if
> you want to be good.
> I suggest you check
> http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=10N&samples=200&spec=...
> In that site you can see how is each spec doing on dps at this moment
> and as you can see frost is the only DK dps spec worth taking.

That site is depressing as hell, I can't even begin to compare myself
with those numbers. I'm extemely glad my dual wield frost dk does 16k
with some cool party buffs ánd luck of the draw. How the hell do those
people do 25k?
.
> Your best bet is to look DK specific sites that update their
> rotations/spec on each patch and look that the data provided is 4.2
> updated.

such as:
http://www.noxxic.com/death-knight/frost/dp...

I use clc-dk
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/c... to help me
with the cooldowns
SF

Debbie

7/8/2011 3:41:00 PM

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> That site is depressing as hell, I can't even begin to compare myself
> with those numbers. I'm extemely glad my dual wield frost dk does 16k with
> some cool party buffs ánd luck of the draw. How the hell do those people
> do 25k?
> .

Simple, full 25 man raid buffs, best possible gear in game, flasks food and
perfect rotation :)

Matthew

7/8/2011 4:22:00 PM

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"Shammy" <none@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Millamber" <scone@people.net.au> wrote in message
> news:ib-dnQUxDYN9fYvTnZ2dnUVZ8rmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I have just dinged 85 on my DK. While levelling i was using the blood
>> spec, mainly for the self healing.
>> I am lead to believe that the blood spec is now the tanking spec?
>> Is that correct?
>> if so what do you recomend as the best spec for a DK DPS?
>> And then what sort of rotation would you recomend.
>>
>> I have tried google but there is a lot of conflicting advice.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Millamber, 85 DK
>>
>>
>
> Yes blood is the tanking only spec now.
> For dps you should go frost for sure, dont even think about unholy if you
> want to be good.

Wow really I have a uholy DK and I keep up with everyone but mages and MM
hunters my average raid dps is 21 or above depending on the targets

It is all about the player
http://www.noxxic.com/death-kni...


> I suggest you check 1
> http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=10N&samples=200&spec=...
> In that site you can see how is each spec doing on dps at this moment and
> as you can see frost is the only DK dps spec worth taking.
> I cant help you too much on rotatins as I havent played my dk lately and
> considering the constant changes I might not give you the most ideal
> rotation.
> The problem with looking for advice about wow on the internet is that
> things in wow change on each patch and 2 months old data can be really
> outdated and wrong.
> Your best bet is to look DK specific sites that update their
> rotations/spec on each patch and look that the data provided is 4.2
> updated.


Debbie

7/8/2011 4:40:00 PM

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>
> Wow really I have a uholy DK and I keep up with everyone but mages and MM
> hunters my average raid dps is 21 or above depending on the targets
>
> It is all about the player
> http://www.noxxic.com/death-kni...
>

If you are that good as unholy you would probably do 23-24 as frost.
It's not about the player it's about the spec in this case.

Sub rogue is the worst raid dps spec now, you can take the best sub rogue
player in the world and he wont be able to same dmg as an average mage.
But the best assasination rogue in the world will most likely do more dmg
than the average mage.

If all specs could do same dmg and it would be all about the player then
blizzard wouldnt be rebalancing everything all the time.

Matthew

7/8/2011 4:46:00 PM

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"Shammy" <none@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Wow really I have a uholy DK and I keep up with everyone but mages and MM
>> hunters my average raid dps is 21 or above depending on the targets
>>
>> It is all about the player
>> http://www.noxxic.com/death-kni...
>>
>
> If you are that good as unholy you would probably do 23-24 as frost.
> It's not about the player it's about the spec in this case.
>
> Sub rogue is the worst raid dps spec now, you can take the best sub rogue
> player in the world and he wont be able to same dmg as an average mage.
> But the best assasination rogue in the world will most likely do more dmg
> than the average mage.
>
> If all specs could do same dmg and it would be all about the player then
> blizzard wouldnt be rebalancing everything all the time.

But it is also about the player if they don't like that spec or are no good
in that spec it only hurts the raid or the experience since it is a game
supposed to play for fun not to feel like work. I personally hate MM
hunter and frost DK rotations I don't like the feel of the rotations I
usually out do them or come extremely close


Debbie

7/8/2011 6:08:00 PM

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> But it is also about the player if they don't like that spec or are no
> good
> in that spec it only hurts the raid or the experience since it is a game
> supposed to play for fun not to feel like work. I personally hate MM
> hunter and frost DK rotations I don't like the feel of the rotations I
> usually out do them or come extremely close
>

That means only that the other DK you play with are less geared or less
skilled than you.
If you meet a frost DK with the same skill and gear as you expect him to
have over 4k dps more than you.

Matthew

7/8/2011 6:23:00 PM

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"Shammy" <none@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
>> But it is also about the player if they don't like that spec or are no
>> good
>> in that spec it only hurts the raid or the experience since it is a game
>> supposed to play for fun not to feel like work. I personally hate MM
>> hunter and frost DK rotations I don't like the feel of the rotations
>> I usually out do them or come extremely close
>>
>
> That means only that the other DK you play with are less geared or less
> skilled than you.
> If you meet a frost DK with the same skill and gear as you expect him to
> have over 4k dps more than you.



maybe like 1 maybe 2 according to the sites but as I said it is the player
I am not here to prove a point or argue. IMO 1-2 k dps to me is nothing if I
am having fun with what I have. My guild plus the guilds we run with feel
the same way. Once this becomes a job and not a game time to walk away
been doing it 5 years now ( seen all of the end game continent except heroic
version of the new stuff yet ). If 1 or 2 k dps are going to make or break
a run than we are doing something wrong


Debbie

7/8/2011 7:04:00 PM

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> maybe like 1 maybe 2 according to the sites but as I said it is the
> player
> I am not here to prove a point or argue. IMO 1-2 k dps to me is nothing if
> I am having fun with what I have. My guild plus the guilds we run with
> feel the same way. Once this becomes a job and not a game time to walk
> away been doing it 5 years now ( seen all of the end game continent except
> heroic version of the new stuff yet ). If 1 or 2 k dps are going to make
> or break a run than we are doing something wrong
>

Actually more like 4-5k, hey I just see the numbers on
http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=10N&samples=200&spec=... unholy
is the 3rd worst spec of all dps specs of all classes and frost 1 of the
best. Hey it's not my site and I didnt make those numbers and they dont pay
me to advertise frost spec I just see the numbers :P
I played over 100 BG last few days and I saw like 1 unholy DK out of 10 and
I play healer and you know what their dps sucks so bad, I dont think 1
unholy DK killed me but so many frost ones nuked me in seconds the
difference is amazing.

Millamber

7/8/2011 11:02:00 PM

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Thanks a heap for that guys... :)
I might dual spec both and see which one best suits my style.
I still kinda like Blood spec, but thats because i am used to it.


Millamber.


"Shammy" <none@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
>> maybe like 1 maybe 2 according to the sites but as I said it is the
>> player
>> I am not here to prove a point or argue. IMO 1-2 k dps to me is nothing
>> if I am having fun with what I have. My guild plus the guilds we run with
>> feel the same way. Once this becomes a job and not a game time to walk
>> away been doing it 5 years now ( seen all of the end game continent
>> except heroic version of the new stuff yet ). If 1 or 2 k dps are going
>> to make or break a run than we are doing something wrong
>>
>
> Actually more like 4-5k, hey I just see the numbers on
> http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=10N&samples=200&spec=...
> unholy is the 3rd worst spec of all dps specs of all classes and frost 1
> of the best. Hey it's not my site and I didnt make those numbers and they
> dont pay me to advertise frost spec I just see the numbers :P
> I played over 100 BG last few days and I saw like 1 unholy DK out of 10
> and I play healer and you know what their dps sucks so bad, I dont think 1
> unholy DK killed me but so many frost ones nuked me in seconds the
> difference is amazing.
>
>