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4.1 Graphhics

Raymond E. Feist

4/26/2011 11:13:00 PM

OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
drivers?

I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.

Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.

Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
before.

Anyone else?

Best, R.E.F.
9 Answers

Lewis

4/27/2011 9:31:00 PM

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In message <raymond-391777.16124426042011@news.giganews.com>
Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
> OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
> drivers?

> I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.

> Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
> the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.

> Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
> before.

> Anyone else?

Yeah. I thought it was because I was running it under... um... an as yet
unreleased program version from an unnamed fruity company, but after a
reboot it still looks very good.

5770 here.

Game graphics also feel a lot smoother to me,

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steve.kaye

4/28/2011 7:53:00 AM

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:30:31 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <raymond-391777.16124426042011@news.giganews.com>
> Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
>> OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
>> drivers?
>
>> I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.
>
>> Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
>> the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.
>
>> Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
>> before.
>
>> Anyone else?
>
>Yeah. I thought it was because I was running it under... um... an as yet
>unreleased program version from an unnamed fruity company, but after a
>reboot it still looks very good.
>
>5770 here.
>
>Game graphics also feel a lot smoother to me,

Have you had an OS update recently? I've definitely had my graphics
quality improve due to an update in the Mac OS (unfortunately, the
graphics card that I had couldn't handle it and I had to tweak wow's
settings so that it looked as it did before the update :P)

steve.kaye
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Raymond E. Feist

4/28/2011 1:50:00 PM

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In article <037ir6l2r2c3ck17nfrusclmhc1dnp1d2f@4ax.com>,
Steve Kaye <nospam@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:30:31 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> >In message <raymond-391777.16124426042011@news.giganews.com>
> > Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
> >> OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
> >> drivers?
> >
> >> I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.
> >
> >> Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
> >> the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.
> >
> >> Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
> >> before.
> >
> >> Anyone else?
> >
> >Yeah. I thought it was because I was running it under... um... an as yet
> >unreleased program version from an unnamed fruity company, but after a
> >reboot it still looks very good.
> >
> >5770 here.
> >
> >Game graphics also feel a lot smoother to me,
>
> Have you had an OS update recently? I've definitely had my graphics
> quality improve due to an update in the Mac OS (unfortunately, the
> graphics card that I had couldn't handle it and I had to tweak wow's
> settings so that it looked as it did before the update :P)
>
> steve.kaye

In my case it's nothing different. Before the update one thing I
noticed: I have WoW settings at Ultra, because of my hardware. If I
flew to, say, Stormwind or any other dock, there were be "ghost" forms
as if the graphics logic had trouble dealing with shadows and light
sources. They were especially noticeable around Darkshore's coast.
From certain angles they'd be looking like ghost piers that would start
underwater and rise to the sky, and as soon as you moved the character,
they'd disappear, then reappear when you moved him again.

All gone now. Textures seem smoother and deeper, and any sort of
movement is fluid.

Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed the improvement.

Best, R.E.F.

Neil Cerutti

4/28/2011 2:01:00 PM

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On 2011-04-28, Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
> Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed the
> improvement.

I wonder if you had an active add-on that was messing up
performance that has either been improved with the patch or is
currently disabled.

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Raymond E. Feist

4/28/2011 4:13:00 PM

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In article <91ta7uFj3U1@mid.individual.net>,
Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:

> On 2011-04-28, Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed the
> > improvement.
>
> I wonder if you had an active add-on that was messing up
> performance that has either been improved with the patch or is
> currently disabled.

Nothing I can think of. The only add-on I can imagine that has graphic
impact was QuestHugger (which doesn't work even with the "beta" fix for
the new patch). Otherwise it's CT-Mod and Auctioneer.

I've run a few times in the past with addons turned off for various
reasons (mostly because a given addon screws one of those "Disney
ride" quests where you have to pilot something) and there was no
difference. I ran with addons turned off when I came in after the patch
until I realized I had to go to the addon menu and tell it to load "out
of date" stuff so I could see what did/didn't work. No difference.

I doubled checked on the dock thing and the "reflections in the sky" are
back, so maybe I just didn't notice them last time. I think it's a
logic issue in the graphics design with how they're putting reflections
in the water. It's only mildly noticeable.

The big difference is the smoothness of the scrolling, movement on
screen, and the rich detail of texture. It may be nothing more than a
general update of their video drivers that my card can now take
advantage of. I'm not sure.

But whatever the reason, things look prettier now.

Best, R.E.F.

C J Campbell

4/28/2011 8:14:00 PM

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On 2011-04-26 16:12:45 -0700, Raymond E. Feist said:

> OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
> drivers?
>
> I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.
>
> Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
> the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.
>
> Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
> before.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> Best, R.E.F.

That's good to know. My MacBook Pro is no longer cutting it for me as a
main workhorse. Just waiting now for Apple to introduce their new Mac
Pro line.

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Raymond E. Feist

4/28/2011 8:50:00 PM

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In article
<2011042813133346013-christophercampbellremovethis@hotmailcom>,
C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 2011-04-26 16:12:45 -0700, Raymond E. Feist said:
>
> > OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
> > drivers?
> >
> > I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.
> >
> > Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
> > the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.
> >
> > Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
> > before.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > Best, R.E.F.
>
> That's good to know. My MacBook Pro is no longer cutting it for me as a
> main workhorse. Just waiting now for Apple to introduce their new Mac
> Pro line.

Well, they already have, late last year. They're up to a 12 core now.
If you want a monster workstation, you can run one of those puppies up
to $10k.

When I got my 8 core about a year ago, the12s were just a rumor.

Anyway, if you're waiting for something bigger than that, get that
second mortgage.

I just got the new MacBook Pro, BTW, 17" and it's a screamer.

Best, R.E.F.

Internetking

4/29/2011 7:56:00 AM

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To: Raymond E. Feist
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Raymond E. Feist wrote:

> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:12:00 -0700
> From: Raymond E. Feist <raymond.e..feist@TIME>
> To: alt.games.warcraft
> Newsgroups: UseNet.alt.games.warcraft
> Subject: Re: 4.1 Graphhics
>
>
> In article <91ta7uFj3U1@mid.individual.net>,
> Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-28, Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
>>> Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed the
>>> improvement.
>>
>> I wonder if you had an active add-on that was messing up
>> performance that has either been improved with the patch or is
>> currently disabled.
>

yeah, add on sometime lags you even best graphics will lag you always
lower the graphics settings...


> Nothing I can think of. The only add-on I can imagine that has graphic
> impact was QuestHugger (which doesn't work even with the "beta" fix for
> the new patch). Otherwise it's CT-Mod and Auctioneer.
>

yep, they are most memory hungry add ons...


> I've run a few times in the past with addons turned off for various
> reasons (mostly because a given addon screws one of those "Disney
> ride" quests where you have to pilot something) and there was no
> difference. I ran with addons turned off when I came in after the patch
> until I realized I had to go to the addon menu and tell it to load "out
> of date" stuff so I could see what did/didn't work. No difference.
>

well i dont load out out of date ones anyway until they update the add
ons...


> I doubled checked on the dock thing and the "reflections in the sky" are
> back, so maybe I just didn't notice them last time. I think it's a
> logic issue in the graphics design with how they're putting reflections
> in the water. It's only mildly noticeable.
>

yes it is very interesting to see how the graphics are... they getting
much better every day...

> The big difference is the smoothness of the scrolling, movement on
> screen, and the rich detail of texture. It may be nothing more than a
> general update of their video drivers that my card can now take
> advantage of. I'm not sure.
>

oh really, did not notice that...

> But whatever the reason, things look prettier now.

yes, much better now.....

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Lewis

4/30/2011 1:32:00 AM

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In message <raymond-5D8057.13502728042011@news.giganews.com>
Raymond E. Feist <raymond@bittersea.com> wrote:
> In article
> <2011042813133346013-christophercampbellremovethis@hotmailcom>,
> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> On 2011-04-26 16:12:45 -0700, Raymond E. Feist said:
>>
>> > OK, is it just me, or did they do a major upgrade to the graphics
>> > drivers?
>> >
>> > I'm running a Mac Pro with Quad-core pushing a ATI Radeon HD 4870.
>> >
>> > Up to today, on Ultra setting, the graphics looked "pretty good," with
>> > the occasional weird tearing or shadows or whatever now and again.
>> >
>> > Right now it looks cinema quality and I'm seeing detail like never
>> > before.
>> >
>> > Anyone else?
>> >
>> > Best, R.E.F.
>>
>> That's good to know. My MacBook Pro is no longer cutting it for me as a
>> main workhorse. Just waiting now for Apple to introduce their new Mac
>> Pro line.

> Well, they already have, late last year. They're up to a 12 core now.
> If you want a monster workstation, you can run one of those puppies up
> to $10k.

New MacPros should be coming soon. Maybe by June, almost certainly by
September. New imacs are heavily rumored for Tuesday (Thunderbolt and i7
processors).

> When I got my 8 core about a year ago, the12s were just a rumor.

I want a single processor 6 core machine, but it's still too much :/

> I just got the new MacBook Pro, BTW, 17" and it's a screamer.

It's well more than twice as fast as my Mac Pro. <Sob>


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