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Paladin Questing the Lazy Way.

petertrei

2/13/2011 6:05:00 PM

My main is a Holy/Ret Paladin; Holy is his main build, but the Ret is
pretty well geared too.

Recently, I was questing while waiting for LFG to ding. Since I wanted
to be able to start quickly when I got an invite, I kept my Holy spec,
and my healer gear, but equipped a high-dps one hander from Heroic
Deadmines. This gave me about 120k health, and 90k Mana.

My DPS went down to about half what it had been under Ret, but... I
basically couldn't die, or go OOM. For solo questing, even in high
level areas, this worked very well. It was slow, but I could take on
mobs that killed me in Ret, and defeat them.

I was surprised.

pt
12 Answers

neithskye

2/14/2011 3:06:00 PM

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On Feb 13, 1:05 pm, Cryptoengineer <petert...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My DPS went down to about half what it had been under Ret, but... I
> basically couldn't die, or go OOM. For solo questing, even in high
> level areas, this worked very well. It was slow, but I could take on
> mobs that killed me in Ret, and defeat them.
>
> I was surprised.

Ha ha. I know exactly what you mean.

I turned my second spec into a "PvP" build, taking Denounce (reduces
mana cost of Exorcism by 75% and after casting Holy Shock has 50%
chance of being instant cast (although it seems a lot less then 50%))
and Blessed Life (gives you a charge of Holy Power when you take
direct damage). You can spam Exorcism all day and keep yourself healed
with Word of Glory, and yet still use the same gear Holy does.

In a quest place in Uldum, there is a dragon that flies around, and
after you finish the quest series he drops to 750,000 health or so
and, when killed, drops a quest item that rewards you with three rare
gems. I read on Wowhead that soloing the dragon was "pretty easy", so
I gave it a try. Yeah. Maybe "pretty easy" if you can kite. Anyway, I
ended the fight with about 90% health and 80% mana. Recount told me
that the dragon had done 2,500,000 damage to me. No, that is not a
typo.

As I like to say - Holy Paladin: Go ahead. Try and die. :-)

--
Jill

Catriona R

2/14/2011 3:53:00 PM

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:05:54 -0800 (PST), neithskye
<jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In a quest place in Uldum, there is a dragon that flies around, and
>after you finish the quest series he drops to 750,000 health or so
>and, when killed, drops a quest item that rewards you with three rare
>gems. I read on Wowhead that soloing the dragon was "pretty easy", so
>I gave it a try. Yeah. Maybe "pretty easy" if you can kite. Anyway, I
>ended the fight with about 90% health and 80% mana. Recount told me
>that the dragon had done 2,500,000 damage to me. No, that is not a
>typo.
>
>As I like to say - Holy Paladin: Go ahead. Try and die. :-)

Omg. I tried that dragon on my bear, thinking "hey, bears are awesome,
should be easy enough"... nope, not happening. Got maybe 100k off the
dragon's health before I had to run away, having already burned
Frenzied Regen (and I reckon I would've been affected by the bug
giving me 12% dmg reduction at that time, since I definitely had the
old talent before 4.0). Tried again in catform, and that was even
worse. I used to think feral druids were overpowered but no way I was
soloing that dragon - had to get my bf to take his shaman over to help
me! Hmm, wondering if my prot pally ought to make a secondary holy
spec lol... probably can't be bothered collecting gear though!
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)

Lancelet

2/15/2011 10:27:00 AM

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Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:8rt1fiF7qvU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:05:54 -0800 (PST), neithskye
> <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In a quest place in Uldum, there is a dragon that flies around, and
>>after you finish the quest series he drops to 750,000 health or so
>>and, when killed, drops a quest item that rewards you with three rare
>>gems. I read on Wowhead that soloing the dragon was "pretty easy", so
>>I gave it a try. Yeah. Maybe "pretty easy" if you can kite. Anyway, I
>>ended the fight with about 90% health and 80% mana. Recount told me
>>that the dragon had done 2,500,000 damage to me. No, that is not a
>>typo.
>>
>>As I like to say - Holy Paladin: Go ahead. Try and die. :-)

After reading this post (I may have stopped at the wowhead comment), I...

> Omg. I tried that dragon on my bear, thinking "hey, bears are awesome,
> should be easy enough"...

.... did the same yesterday.

I lived, but only because I ran away. And went back to my Tol'vir tomb
raiding.

By the way, I don't know if it's related, but I'm working on Tyrande's
favorite doll, my 20th rare archeology item, and I never had so many
Tol'vir digsites.

So... if you are working on a rare item, do digsites related to this item
become more rare ?

<insert paranoid ambiant music>

Shiflet

2/15/2011 10:50:00 AM

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"neithskye" <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d49453eb-e745-4300-afb0-562149de6fe5@l22g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 1:05 pm, Cryptoengineer <petert...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I read on Wowhead that soloing the dragon was "pretty easy", so
I gave it a try. Yeah. Maybe "pretty easy" if you can kite.

Even if you can kite it's not easy, my shaman can kite him all day and night
doing damage the whole time(Searing Totem+Searing Flames dot, shocks,
Spiritwalker's Grace, Feral Spirit let me do damage on the move, Earthbind
Totem, Frost Shock, and Ghost Wolf give me tons of ways to keep my
distance), yet inevitably he seems to get stuck on terrain, go into evade,
and I'll have to start the whole thing over. My DK did it solo but it took
forever(he kept resetting), my shaman finally got annoyed and just went
resto and helped some other DK do it.


Catriona R

2/15/2011 12:16:00 PM

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:26:57 +0100 (CET), Lancelet
<lancelet.nospam@merci.invalid> wrote:

>Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:8rt1fiF7qvU1
>@mid.individual.net:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:05:54 -0800 (PST), neithskye
>> <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In a quest place in Uldum, there is a dragon that flies around, and
>>>after you finish the quest series he drops to 750,000 health or so
>>>and, when killed, drops a quest item that rewards you with three rare
>>>gems. I read on Wowhead that soloing the dragon was "pretty easy", so
>>>I gave it a try. Yeah. Maybe "pretty easy" if you can kite. Anyway, I
>>>ended the fight with about 90% health and 80% mana. Recount told me
>>>that the dragon had done 2,500,000 damage to me. No, that is not a
>>>typo.
>>>
>>>As I like to say - Holy Paladin: Go ahead. Try and die. :-)
>
>After reading this post (I may have stopped at the wowhead comment), I...
>
>> Omg. I tried that dragon on my bear, thinking "hey, bears are awesome,
>> should be easy enough"...
>
>... did the same yesterday.
>
>I lived, but only because I ran away. And went back to my Tol'vir tomb
>raiding.

Thankfully that dragon has a fairly short leash so running away *does*
work :-) Doesn't make him dead, but at least saved me 2 deaths from
overconfidence!

>By the way, I don't know if it's related, but I'm working on Tyrande's
>favorite doll, my 20th rare archeology item, and I never had so many
>Tol'vir digsites.
>
>So... if you are working on a rare item, do digsites related to this item
>become more rare ?

It's probably more because 7 new Tol'vir digsites were added this
patch, thus increasing the chances of one spawning for you. Nice one
on the 20 rares btw, I'm on 16 atm and cannot get a single one of the
lvl 85 ones to proc - I'd love either the trinket you're working on,
or any of the Tol'vir ones, but zero luck (I'm sure when one finally
does proc it'll be Zin'rokh... because my dk and warrior are on my
other account :-P). As usual - anything involving a heavy luck factor
is pretty much guaranteed to not happen for me!
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)

neithskye

2/15/2011 2:36:00 PM

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On Feb 15, 5:26 am, Lancelet <lancelet.nos...@merci.invalid> wrote:

> So... if you are working on a rare item, do digsites related to this item
> become more rare ?

Lol, the only thing I wanted on my Priest was the raptor mount. After
she got it as her next project, it took her *three days* to get the
fragments. Every digsite that spawned was NE, Troll, Dwarf or Tol'vir.

Of course, now the she has all the Fossil rares, ain't gonna be
nuthin' but Fossil sites spawning for her.

--
Jill

neithskye

2/15/2011 3:10:00 PM

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On Feb 15, 5:49 am, "Shiflet" <rshif...@charter.net> wrote:

> Even if you can kite it's not easy, my shaman can kite him all day and night
> doing damage the whole time(Searing Totem+Searing Flames dot, shocks,
> Spiritwalker's Grace, Feral Spirit let me do damage on the move, Earthbind
> Totem, Frost Shock, and Ghost Wolf give me tons of ways to keep my
> distance), yet inevitably he seems to get stuck on terrain, go into evade,
> and I'll have to start the whole thing over. My DK did it solo but it took
> forever(he kept resetting), my shaman finally got annoyed and just went
> resto and helped some other DK do it.

I can't kite, but hearing that this NPC can reset, I guess it's lucky
in a way that I had to go toe-to-toe.

I have to say honestly that without an automatically generated (a
charge of Holy Power when using Holy Shock or upon taking damage)
method of healing, I'm not sure how I could have survived this fight
without the instant cast, uninterruptable Word of Glory. If at three
Holy Power charges it heals for ~16K, that means I was probably
casting 10 a minute (factoring in other healing like Holy Shock and
Divine Light).

--
Jill

Catriona R

2/15/2011 5:37:00 PM

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:31 +0000, Catriona R
<catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> Nice one
>on the 20 rares btw, I'm on 16 atm and cannot get a single one of the
>lvl 85 ones to proc - I'd love either the trinket you're working on,
>or any of the Tol'vir ones, but zero luck (I'm sure when one finally
>does proc it'll be Zin'rokh... because my dk and warrior are on my
>other account :-P). As usual - anything involving a heavy luck factor
>is pretty much guaranteed to not happen for me!

Omg, one just appeared :-O Caster ring, no less, ok, no spirit but
hey, reforged and it'll be way better then my blues I'm currently
using :-D Finally!
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)

Lancelet

2/16/2011 1:25:00 PM

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Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:8rvrtbFj7jU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:31 +0000, Catriona R
> <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Nice one
>>on the 20 rares btw, I'm on 16 atm and cannot get a single one of the
>>lvl 85 ones to proc - I'd love either the trinket you're working on,
>>or any of the Tol'vir ones, but zero luck (I'm sure when one finally
>>does proc it'll be Zin'rokh... because my dk and warrior are on my
>>other account :-P). As usual - anything involving a heavy luck factor
>>is pretty much guaranteed to not happen for me!
>
> Omg, one just appeared :-O Caster ring, no less, ok, no spirit but
> hey, reforged and it'll be way better then my blues I'm currently
> using :-D Finally!

My <professor> is a feral druid, so there is nothing for him among the
archeology epics, but some items are funny / usefull.

Problem : I need more space in my bags for those 20 (minus the 4 BOA I got)
items.

Catriona R

2/16/2011 1:32:00 PM

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:25:04 +0100 (CET), Lancelet
<lancelet.nospam@merci.invalid> wrote:

>Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:8rvrtbFj7jU1
>@mid.individual.net:
>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:31 +0000, Catriona R
>> <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice one
>>>on the 20 rares btw, I'm on 16 atm and cannot get a single one of the
>>>lvl 85 ones to proc - I'd love either the trinket you're working on,
>>>or any of the Tol'vir ones, but zero luck (I'm sure when one finally
>>>does proc it'll be Zin'rokh... because my dk and warrior are on my
>>>other account :-P). As usual - anything involving a heavy luck factor
>>>is pretty much guaranteed to not happen for me!
>>
>> Omg, one just appeared :-O Caster ring, no less, ok, no spirit but
>> hey, reforged and it'll be way better then my blues I'm currently
>> using :-D Finally!
>
>My <professor> is a feral druid, so there is nothing for him among the
>archeology epics, but some items are funny / usefull.

Ouch, my 2nd archaeologist will be one, too (my alchemist, and on my
2nd account, so at least any rares will be handy to alts), I'm hoping
Blizz add some agility-based items in later patches!

>Problem : I need more space in my bags for those 20 (minus the 4 BOA I got)
>items.

Me too, I've got most of a bag full of them now, at least a few are
BoA and have been dumped on alts who can vaguely use them, the rest
are filling up my bags and rarely used lol. Although I love the
draenei one that gives a random teleport somewhere in the world;
that's a pretty cool one to get a random starting point when I go out
digging.
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (85 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (85 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)