Usa Forum - Two N.C. Races Held Up by Voting Problems

Harry Hope

11/12/2004 11:00:00 PM

The most glaring failure in North Carolina occurred in Carteret
County, where a machine used to store electronic ballots ran out of
storage space and county officials mistakenly continued to try to save
ballots.

Since the machines had no memory left, 4,438 votes disappeared.

State elections officials have said that the glitch could result in a
new statewide election for races that end with a margin smaller than
the 4,438 lost votes.

"That's one of the most egregious examples that we've run across,"
said Keith Jennings, director of the Atlanta-based Count Every Vote
2004, a nonprofit election watchdog group.

Another expert said the electoral scrutiny that resulted from Florida
in 2000 has not been kind to North Carolina, where 100 counties use
seven different voting methods, ranging from paper ballots to
touch-screen computers.

From The Associated Press, 11/12/04:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-11122004-3...

Two N.C. Races Held Up by Voting Problems

By STEVE HARTSOE
The Associated Press

RALEIGH, N.C. -

A Florida-style nightmare has unfolded in North Carolina in the 10
days since Election Day, with thousands of votes missing and the
outcome of two statewide races still up in the air.

The fiasco has not reached the proportions of what happened in 2000 in
Florida - in part because the presidential race was not close here.

But election observers say North Carolina has been the site of some of
2004's worst problems.

The biggest failure resulted from a computer glitch that wiped out
more than 4,400 votes in one county, while other disputes have focused
on how to count provisional ballots.

In another county, 12,000 early and absentee votes were misplaced due
to a procedural error, but later found.

Federal authorities said they plan to look into what happened in two
counties that have had the most severe breakdowns.

Two statewide races - for agriculture commissioner and superintendent
of public instruction - remained unresolved in North Carolina on
Friday, and they were so close that recounts will be conducted in the
next week.

________________________________________________________

Harry

2 Answers

Harry Hope

11/13/2004 5:51:00 AM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:59:34 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>
>The most glaring failure in North Carolina occurred in Carteret
>County, where a machine used to store electronic ballots ran out of
>storage space and county officials mistakenly continued to try to save
>ballots.
>
>Since the machines had no memory left, 4,438 votes disappeared.
>
>State elections officials have said that the glitch could result in a
>new statewide election for races that end with a margin smaller than
>the 4,438 lost votes.
>
>"That's one of the most egregious examples that we've run across,"
>said Keith Jennings, director of the Atlanta-based Count Every Vote
>2004, a nonprofit election watchdog group.
>
>Another expert said the electoral scrutiny that resulted from Florida
>in 2000 has not been kind to North Carolina, where 100 counties use
>seven different voting methods, ranging from paper ballots to
>touch-screen computers.
>
>
>From The Associated Press, 11/12/04:
>http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-11122004-3...
>
>Two N.C. Races Held Up by Voting Problems
>
>By STEVE HARTSOE
>The Associated Press
>
>RALEIGH, N.C. -
>
>A Florida-style nightmare has unfolded in North Carolina in the 10
>days since Election Day, with thousands of votes missing and the
>outcome of two statewide races still up in the air.
>
>The fiasco has not reached the proportions of what happened in 2000 in
>Florida - in part because the presidential race was not close here.
>
>But election observers say North Carolina has been the site of some of
>2004's worst problems.
>
>The biggest failure resulted from a computer glitch that wiped out
>more than 4,400 votes in one county, while other disputes have focused
>on how to count provisional ballots.
>
>In another county, 12,000 early and absentee votes were misplaced due
>to a procedural error, but later found.
>
>Federal authorities said they plan to look into what happened in two
>counties that have had the most severe breakdowns.
>
>Two statewide races - for agriculture commissioner and superintendent
>of public instruction - remained unresolved in North Carolina on
>Friday, and they were so close that recounts will be conducted in the
>next week.
>
>________________________________________________________
>
>Harry

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deadmaker7

11/13/2004 6:42:00 AM

Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<u2gap09805pd2pq0pmk42j3frht3qe8crh@4ax.com>...
> The most glaring failure in North Carolina occurred in Carteret
> County, where a machine used to store electronic ballots ran out of
> storage space and county officials mistakenly continued to try to save
> ballots.
>
> Since the machines had no memory left, 4,438 votes disappeared.
>
> State elections officials have said that the glitch could result in a
> new statewide election for races that end with a margin smaller than
> the 4,438 lost votes.
>
> "That's one of the most egregious examples that we've run across,"
> said Keith Jennings, director of the Atlanta-based Count Every Vote
> 2004, a nonprofit election watchdog group.
>
> Another expert said the electoral scrutiny that resulted from Florida
> in 2000 has not been kind to North Carolina, where 100 counties use
> seven different voting methods, ranging from paper ballots to
> touch-screen computers.
>
>
> From The Associated Press, 11/12/04:
> http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-11122004-3...
>
> Two N.C. Races Held Up by Voting Problems
>
> By STEVE HARTSOE
> The Associated Press
>
> RALEIGH, N.C. -
>
> A Florida-style nightmare has unfolded in North Carolina in the 10
> days since Election Day, with thousands of votes missing and the
> outcome of two statewide races still up in the air.
>
> The fiasco has not reached the proportions of what happened in 2000 in
> Florida - in part because the presidential race was not close here.
>
> But election observers say North Carolina has been the site of some of
> 2004's worst problems.
>
> The biggest failure resulted from a computer glitch that wiped out
> more than 4,400 votes in one county, while other disputes have focused
> on how to count provisional ballots.
>
> In another county, 12,000 early and absentee votes were misplaced due
> to a procedural error, but later found.
>
> Federal authorities said they plan to look into what happened in two
> counties that have had the most severe breakdowns.
>
> Two statewide races - for agriculture commissioner and superintendent
> of public instruction - remained unresolved in North Carolina on
> Friday, and they were so close that recounts will be conducted in the
> next week.
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Harry

I am a resident of Forsyth County NC, and pretty goddamn pissed off at
the thought that my vote may not have counted. Not so much the
presidential vote, since Kerry had little chance of winning this
state. But I really wanted to see Erskine Bowles gain John Edward's
senate seat, and instead this asshole gun-wielding NRA-backing psycho
Richard Burr gets in. I spent hours campaigning for Bowles and now
even my vote may not have counted.

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