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ToolPackinMama

1/4/2011 5:35:00 AM

For me, what makes WOW the best is all the little things.

1) You can JUMP. Incredibly, there are many games where you can't jump.

2) You can SWIM. Amazingly, many sophisticated games don't allow swimming.

3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
ability isn't universal, but it isn't.

4) You can go off the trail. Holy COW there are lots of games that
hardly ever give you a chance to explore, or randomly pick your own path.

5) You can forge your own destiny. Unless you are locked into a phased
area, you can do quests in any order, or skip many of them if you
choose. Alas, this is uncommon.

6) If you are a hunter, you can tame many pets, and you can name your
pets. I am afraid I must inform you that hunters in other games don't
have such joys. Even games that let hunters have pets won't let you
tame many. And sometimes the pets don't level with you in other games
like they do in WOW.

7) You can ride a mount. You can ride a flying mount. OMFG why are
there any games anywhere that won't give you a freaking mount? I mean,
it's not like WOW hasn't shown that it is feasible and desirable.

8) You can actually sit in the fricking chairs. I can name a new
MMORPG that doesn't even let you do that. I kid you not.

There are many other little things that set WOW apart and above.

In my opinion: no game that is available now or in the future should
deny players such basic things. If you can do it in WOW, you should be
able to do in in any game, from this day forward, FOREVER.
17 Answers

ToolPackinMama

1/4/2011 5:53:00 AM

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On 1/4/2011 12:35 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> For me, what makes WOW the best is all the little things.
>
> 1) You can JUMP. Incredibly, there are many games where you can't jump.

Guild Wars, for one.
>
> 2) You can SWIM. Amazingly, many sophisticated games don't allow swimming.

Guild Wars, Aion...

>
> 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
> ability isn't universal, but it isn't.

Gah! Emphasis on the effortlessly. In Star trek Online, you can set up
autoshoot, but it is my no means "automatic".

>
> 4) You can go off the trail. Holy COW there are lots of games that
> hardly ever give you a chance to explore, or randomly pick your own path.

Guild Wars, Aion, Star Trek Online...

>
> 5) You can forge your own destiny. Unless you are locked into a phased
> area, you can do quests in any order, or skip many of them if you
> choose. Alas, this is uncommon.

In fact, the norm is to put a player on a track. Period. If there are
exceptions (like EVE) they fail in the other areas (can't jump, for
example).

> 6) If you are a hunter, you can tame many pets, and you can name your
> pets. I am afraid I must inform you that hunters in other games don't
> have such joys. Even games that let hunters have pets won't let you tame
> many. And sometimes the pets don't level with you in other games like
> they do in WOW.

My greatest love for many years was Guild Wars, but the hunter pets are
handled very strangely. It's too easy for a hunter to vastly out-level
their pet, simply by turning in several quests at once.

PLUS, you can't jump, or swim, or go off the trail.

> 7) You can ride a mount. You can ride a flying mount. OMFG why are there
> any games anywhere that won't give you a freaking mount? I mean, it's
> not like WOW hasn't shown that it is feasible and desirable.

Guild Wars no mounts. Star Trek Online, no... cars or bikes, nothing
like that.

> 8) You can actually sit in the fricking chairs. I can name a new MMORPG
> that doesn't even let you do that. I kid you not.

Actually, you can't sit in the chairs in City of Heroes, even though
they have a /sit animation. You can't sit in the chairs at all in Aion,
nor in Star Trek Online... even though they have /sit animations.

> There are many other little things that set WOW apart and above.

I am hoping some of you will chime in.

>
> In my opinion: no game that is available now or in the future should
> deny players such basic things. If you can do it in WOW, you should be
> able to do in in any game, from this day forward, FOREVER.

I admit I haven't played EVERY GAME, but the fact that hugely hyped NEW
games like Aion and Star Trek Online fail in these areas tells me we
have a long way to go before WOW is actually outdated.

Urbin

1/4/2011 8:10:00 AM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 1/4/2011 12:35 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
> > For me, what makes WOW the best is all the little things.

Well, it seems we set our priorities differently.

> > 1) You can JUMP. Incredibly, there are many games where you can't jump.

Allowing for those annoying bouncy characters in pugs that can't stand still
for two seconds when waiting for something in an instance. Boy would I love
if WOW didn't allow jumping.

Of course, jumping is handy if you need to get up onto something :-)

> > 2) You can SWIM. Amazingly, many sophisticated games don't allow swimming.

Well, if there is stuff that needs to be done underwater, there needs to be
swimming. If there were no treasures, nodes or quests that are underwater,
the only reason swimming would be good for, would be exploring, but I don't
do a lot of that at 66% speed.

> > 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
> > ability isn't universal, but it isn't.

Ah, as a hunter, I'm absolutely with you on this. Now my mage wants auto
frostbolt ;-)

> > 4) You can go off the trail. Holy COW there are lots of games that
> > hardly ever give you a chance to explore, or randomly pick your own path.

Total agreement. The incredible game world is a big part of why I like WoW
so much.

> > 5) You can forge your own destiny.

To some extent yes, and I like it.

> > Unless you are locked into a phased area, you can do quests in any
> > order, or skip many of them if you choose.

Well, since Cata, this possibility has been vastly reduced, see Burt's
threads on linear questing.

> > 6) If you are a hunter, you can tame many pets, and you can name your
> > pets. I am afraid I must inform you that hunters in other games don't
> > have such joys. Even games that let hunters have pets won't let you tame
> > many.

Yes, that is nice and I got used to having a pet for those almost six years.
Though I don't know how badly lacking it would be if as a hunter I had never
had a pet. The reason why my first character was a hunter was because I was
looking for some kind of ranged combat/Aragorn type ranger character. The
pet was not a deciding factor.

> > And sometimes the pets don't level with you in other games like

I tamed the green-orange tiger in Felwood the other day. Boy, did they
improve pet levelling. It took me half a heroic instance and a couple of
dailies to bring the pet from 82 to 85. I remember where my pet would catch
up to my level briefly before I reached the next level, back in vanilla.

> > 7) You can ride a mount. You can ride a flying mount. OMFG why are there
> > any games anywhere that won't give you a freaking mount? I mean, it's
> > not like WOW hasn't shown that it is feasible and desirable.

I guess it all depends. Of course, having a mount is cool because it gets
you to places faster. But whether that is absolutely required depends on the
size and setup of your world. I agree, that with the size of WoW, a mount is
definitely desirable and I'm glad we get them at level 20 now.

And of course flying mounts are *truly* cool, it gives you a whole new
perspective for the world and combined with the ability to explore, I really
love them.

> > 8) You can actually sit in the fricking chairs. I can name a new MMORPG
> > that doesn't even let you do that. I kid you not.

Meh, so what. A bit of flavor, I wouldn't even have noticed if you coudln't.

> > There are many other little things that set WOW apart and above.
>
> I am hoping some of you will chime in.

Well, for me, it's more the "other big" things that set WOW apart (but then
it's the only MMO I've ever played, so maybe I'm a bad judge of things).

The great things about WoW are the versatility of what you can do, the
ability to solo play, group randomly, raid, do PvP, engage in guild
activities, chase down achievments, max out your gear, twink to your heart's
content.

But I do agree, that all the little things definitely add flavour and make
it a more enjoyable experience. Some to add:

9) there is a lot of humour, be that pop culture references, be that
references to how WoW was before Cata (a lot of new quests take the piss
out of the same NPCs and what they used to do; has anyone talked to
"Pretty Boy Duncan" lately?), be that funny things to do, the dwarven
flight masters telling you to "keep your feet on the ground" and lots
more

10) the Lore. I didn't pay enough attention to this during Vanilla, but
starting with BC I've begun to carefully read the quest texts, read in
game books and stuff and this is just so amazing, it's like
participating in a fantasy novel

11) the critters

> > In my opinion: no game that is available now or in the future should
> > deny players such basic things. If you can do it in WOW, you should be
> > able to do in in any game, from this day forward, FOREVER.

The question is, does every game *need* all this. I can nicely do without
sittable chairs, I only need a mount if the game world is big enough for it
to matter and there are no other convenient methods of getting around etc.

But I do agree, that WoW gets these things pretty much right, even if their
importance to me is not as big as to you.

> I admit I haven't played EVERY GAME, but the fact that hugely hyped NEW
> games like Aion and Star Trek Online fail in these areas tells me we
> have a long way to go before WOW is actually outdated.

Not having played Aion, WAR, LotR etc, I have still followed what people
wrote about them. My impression was that they failed because of lacks in
game play (questing, pvp, end game) and bugginess, not lack of jumping and
swimming.

Cheers
Urbin
--
Dun Morogh-EU (PvE) | Juran (65), Druid
Urbin (85), Hunter | Surana (70), Mage | Greeta (62), Rogue
Mymule (80), Warlock | Kordosch (75), Deathknight | Gera (26), Paladin
Sunh (80), Priest | Taalas (73), Shaman | Vargal (14), Warrior

steve.kaye

1/4/2011 11:11:00 AM

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On 4 Jan 2011 08:09:51 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> > 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
>> > ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
>
>Ah, as a hunter, I'm absolutely with you on this. Now my mage wants auto
>frostbolt ;-)

You can auto-wand! :) Comparing that to your hunter would be to
allow auto-wanding *and* spells to be cast at the same time.


steve.kaye
--
Ravenholdt-EU (Horde)
Miho, 82 Rogue Jengu, 81 Death Knight Belugar, 76 Warrior
Jelan, 82 Priest Kibbs, 80 Paladin Mingan, 73 Shaman
Clokk, 81 Druid Jaille, 80 Warlock Yopp, 64 Hunter

steve.kaye

1/4/2011 11:17:00 AM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama
<philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:

>On 1/4/2011 12:35 AM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> For me, what makes WOW the best is all the little things.
>>
>> 1) You can JUMP. Incredibly, there are many games where you can't jump.
>
>Guild Wars, for one.
>>
>> 2) You can SWIM. Amazingly, many sophisticated games don't allow swimming.
>
>Guild Wars, Aion...
>
>>
>> 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
>> ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
>
>Gah! Emphasis on the effortlessly. In Star trek Online, you can set up
>autoshoot, but it is my no means "automatic".
>
>>
>> 4) You can go off the trail. Holy COW there are lots of games that
>> hardly ever give you a chance to explore, or randomly pick your own path.
>
>Guild Wars, Aion, Star Trek Online...
>
>>
>> 5) You can forge your own destiny. Unless you are locked into a phased
>> area, you can do quests in any order, or skip many of them if you
>> choose. Alas, this is uncommon.
>
>In fact, the norm is to put a player on a track. Period. If there are
>exceptions (like EVE) they fail in the other areas (can't jump, for
>example).

You can jump really far in EVE! Between completely different solar
systems. :)

steve.kaye
--
Ravenholdt-EU (Horde)
Jelan, 85 Priest Jengu, 81 Death Knight Belugar, 76 Warrior
Miho, 82 Rogue Kibbs, 80 Paladin Mingan, 74 Shaman
Clokk, 81 Druid Jaille, 80 Warlock Yopp, 64 Hunter

Neil Cerutti

1/4/2011 1:33:00 PM

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On 2011-01-04, Steve Kaye <nospam@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> On 4 Jan 2011 08:09:51 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> > 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
>>> > ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
>>
>>Ah, as a hunter, I'm absolutely with you on this. Now my mage
>>wants auto frostbolt ;-)
>
> You can auto-wand! :) Comparing that to your hunter would be
> to allow auto-wanding *and* spells to be cast at the same time.

Kinda. But wanding shuts itself off at the slightest provocation,
and must be restarted all the time.

--
Neil Cerutti

steve.kaye

1/4/2011 1:47:00 PM

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On 4 Jan 2011 13:32:46 GMT, Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:

>On 2011-01-04, Steve Kaye <nospam@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 4 Jan 2011 08:09:51 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>> > 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
>>>> > ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
>>>
>>>Ah, as a hunter, I'm absolutely with you on this. Now my mage
>>>wants auto frostbolt ;-)
>>
>> You can auto-wand! :) Comparing that to your hunter would be
>> to allow auto-wanding *and* spells to be cast at the same time.
>
>Kinda. But wanding shuts itself off at the slightest provocation,
>and must be restarted all the time.

Don't provoke it then!!

:)

steve.kaye
--
Ravenholdt-EU (Horde)
Jelan, 85 Priest Jengu, 81 Death Knight Belugar, 76 Warrior
Miho, 82 Rogue Kibbs, 80 Paladin Mingan, 74 Shaman
Clokk, 81 Druid Jaille, 80 Warlock Yopp, 64 Hunter

Urbin

1/4/2011 2:14:00 PM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:11:05 +0000, Steve Kaye wrote:
> On 4 Jan 2011 08:09:51 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:53:16 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
> >> > 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
> >> > ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
> >
> >Ah, as a hunter, I'm absolutely with you on this. Now my mage wants auto
> >frostbolt ;-)
>
> You can auto-wand! :) Comparing that to your hunter would be to
> allow auto-wanding *and* spells to be cast at the same time.

Ah, one can't even joke anymore without being taken seriously ;-)

You're right of course, and yes, I do want auto cobra shot, too!

Cheers
Urbin, dead serious
--
Dun Morogh-EU (PvE) | Juran (65), Druid
Urbin (85), Hunter | Surana (70), Mage | Greeta (62), Rogue
Mymule (80), Warlock | Kordosch (75), Deathknight | Gera (26), Paladin
Sunh (80), Priest | Taalas (73), Shaman | Vargal (14), Warrior

hume.spamfilter

1/4/2011 4:22:00 PM

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ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
> exceptions (like EVE) they fail in the other areas (can't jump, for
> example).

You can jump in EVE! You just need a gate. :)

--
Brandon Hume - hume -> BOFH.Ca, http://WW...

C J Campbell

1/4/2011 4:41:00 PM

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On 2011-01-03 21:35:14 -0800, ToolPackinMama said:

> For me, what makes WOW the best is all the little things.
>
> 1) You can JUMP. Incredibly, there are many games where you can't jump.
>
> 2) You can SWIM. Amazingly, many sophisticated games don't allow swimming.
>
> 3) You can AUTOSHOOT (auto-attack) effortlessly. I can't believe this
> ability isn't universal, but it isn't.
>
> 4) You can go off the trail. Holy COW there are lots of games that
> hardly ever give you a chance to explore, or randomly pick your own
> path.
>
> 5) You can forge your own destiny. Unless you are locked into a
> phased area, you can do quests in any order, or skip many of them if
> you choose. Alas, this is uncommon.
>
> 6) If you are a hunter, you can tame many pets, and you can name your
> pets. I am afraid I must inform you that hunters in other games don't
> have such joys. Even games that let hunters have pets won't let you
> tame many. And sometimes the pets don't level with you in other games
> like they do in WOW.
>
> 7) You can ride a mount. You can ride a flying mount. OMFG why are
> there any games anywhere that won't give you a freaking mount? I mean,
> it's not like WOW hasn't shown that it is feasible and desirable.
>
> 8) You can actually sit in the fricking chairs. I can name a new
> MMORPG that doesn't even let you do that. I kid you not.
>
> There are many other little things that set WOW apart and above.
>
> In my opinion: no game that is available now or in the future should
> deny players such basic things. If you can do it in WOW, you should be
> able to do in in any game, from this day forward, FOREVER.

You can dance! You can laugh! You can punch other players! You can moon
monsters, spit on them, and even fart in their general direction!

You can pimp your bank alt in a tuxedo, monocle or top hat, silver cuff
links, and diamond tipped cane!

You can have hundreds of different small pet companions.

You can have a picnic in the park.

You not only have mounts, but you have more than a hundred mounts to
choose from. And you can collect them!

If you don't like the interface, you can change it.

The game actually knows that you have more than just an "A" button.

Exploding sheep!

Make a monkey of your enemies! (or a sheep, or a penguin, or a rabbit)

The whale shark!

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Mark (newsgroups)

1/4/2011 5:45:00 PM

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On 04/01/2011 16:41, C J Campbell wrote:

[...]

> The whale shark!

I got the achievement :)