cryptoguy
11/30/2010 1:54:00 PM
Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote in
news:8lk251F9pjU1@mid.individual.net:
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:19:42 +0000 (UTC), Rob Wynne <doc@america.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Wrath content has in some cases been nerfed, but in large part, we're
>>just all highly overgared. With badges being so easy to come by and
>>the LFD system making it trivial to find a dungeon group, there's
>>really nothing to prevent a new 80 from gearing up to ICC levels
>>quickly. All those heroic dungeons were tuned for people wearing
>>level 187 blues, and 251 epics pretty well rip right through stuff.
>>There are few fights in heroics which have complex enough mechanics to
>>be challenging to the overgeared player; a lot of the fights which
>>were complex can now just be weathered if you don't feel like doing
>>the dance steps, and dps is high enough to burn the bosses quickly
>>enough that there's no real problem. (I was chain running heroics
>>this weekend for Bildgewater rep, and got in one great group where we
>>were joking about DBM popping new killspeed records on most of the
>>bosses. Some of them were going down in less than 15-20 seconds.
>
> I ran Drak'Tharon a couple of days ago, first time in a while, I'd
> previously never considered getting the Consumption Junction
> achievement (kill Trollgore before reaching X stacks of Consume or
> somesuch) in a pug, since from all I'd heard it requires coordination
> and line of sighting and stuff to do it. Well... health burned down at
> one heck of a rate and boom, achievement. That was hard... :-P Current
> gear levels make all the old heroics tricial, heck, I barely had
> anything to do that run, except the odd flash heal on the DK dps who
> kept pulling aggro! The tank needed nothing beyond the odd renew here
> and there, most the time I was desperately trying to cast even one
> single damage spell before the mob died ;-) TotC and the ICC 5-mans
> still take rather more healing, but the originals are a walk in the
> park now, so long as you don't get a chronically undergeared tank
> (there is a reason I've tanked no heroics on my paladin - although I'm
> plenty geared, heck, *over*geared for the originals, I am not geared
> enough to hold aggro!).
Last night I ran heroic Gundrak with a brand new lvl 80 warrior tank (5
hours since ding). His addon Gearscore was 868 - I think the lowest I've
ever seen in a Heroic. He did just fine, no deaths, no wipes, though he did
need significantly more healing than a geared up tank.
And that's the way it should be. When WotLK came out, the then-current 70s
basically facerolled their way through the first few levels on the way to
80. Blizzard has to tune those levels not for that first wave, but for the
players who come after that.
Those of us who had spent months or years at 70 were effectively PvE
twinks; it takes a long time to acculmulate all that BiS gear, and learn to
use it properly.
The same thing is going to happen in Cata. That baby tank wont spend months
getting ilvl 264 gear before hitting level 81 content - he'll be there as
soon as he is able. Blizzard needs to let players like that have a chance
to progress.
Those of us who have spent 2 years gearing up at 80 will find the first few
levels a lot easier than those who follow.
pt