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Sockets and Gems Have Been Totally Messed Up, Mon!

Orion Ryder

11/29/2010 4:25:00 PM

At least for me and my wife.

Case 1
My hunter's meta gem - I had the ultimate one that was used by many,
21 agility + 3 % inc crit damage. I forget what the meta requirement
was but it was quite easy to get. Maybe it was one of each and
Pristine fixed that up but good. Now the requirement is that there has
to be more blue gems than red. HUH??!!

But da red gems was da boss gems for da hunter, mon!!

Now there will need to be a spreadsheet built to solve the dilemma of
making the maximum usage out of all the gems. Can;t just throw in one
Pristine and a zillion reds with +20 agility anymore

Case 2
My wife's rogue, several gems - rogue had several orange gems combos
for agility and crit or agil and hit. Some of the socket colors that
she had those gems in have changed color. They are now blue instead of
the yellow that was there before. Now she does nto even have the bonus
because the color is mis-matched.

Blue gem on hunter and rogue? They are telling us to make an agil/
stamina purple now?

Well I guess in a short while all that gear will be replaced.

But then again maybe not. When I hit Northrend my hutner and priest
were still using much of their gear from Kara and Gruul's until they
hit the level 80 dungeons. I think the only thing my hunter replaced
prior to that was the ranged weapon was replaced with that one from
the group quest in the Borean Tundra on the east side atop that
floating temple in the sky.

Oh well time to call out my JC and pop a few gems together.

OH! OH! OH!

Orion
7 Answers

Catriona R

11/29/2010 4:33:00 PM

0


On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:25:22 -0800 (PST), Orion Ryder
<orionryder@hotmail.com> wrote:

>At least for me and my wife.
>
>Case 1
>My hunter's meta gem - I had the ultimate one that was used by many,
>21 agility + 3 % inc crit damage. I forget what the meta requirement
>was but it was quite easy to get. Maybe it was one of each and
>Pristine fixed that up but good. Now the requirement is that there has
>to be more blue gems than red. HUH??!!
>
>But da red gems was da boss gems for da hunter, mon!!
>
>Now there will need to be a spreadsheet built to solve the dilemma of
>making the maximum usage out of all the gems. Can;t just throw in one
>Pristine and a zillion reds with +20 agility anymore

Blizz have apparently decided to undo that "soon", shame they didn't
do that before pushing it live, they got enough feedback about it on
the beta forums for it to be obvious it was not a good idea!

>Case 2
>My wife's rogue, several gems - rogue had several orange gems combos
>for agility and crit or agil and hit. Some of the socket colors that
>she had those gems in have changed color. They are now blue instead of
>the yellow that was there before. Now she does nto even have the bonus
>because the color is mis-matched.
>
>Blue gem on hunter and rogue? They are telling us to make an agil/
>stamina purple now?

Hit is now blue so take agi/hit, simples ;-) More of a nuisance for my
caster alts, since I don't raid and only need 6% hit to cap as a
result - it's totally impossible to get *under* 6% in any kind of
decent gear, even with reforging as much of it off as I can, and so
those blue sockets are a bit pointless... either ignore the colours
entirely, or if bonus is good enough, use int/stamina, sigh.

>Well I guess in a short while all that gear will be replaced.
>
>But then again maybe not. When I hit Northrend my hutner and priest
>were still using much of their gear from Kara and Gruul's until they
>hit the level 80 dungeons. I think the only thing my hunter replaced
>prior to that was the ranged weapon was replaced with that one from
>the group quest in the Borean Tundra on the east side atop that
>floating temple in the sky.

It won't be like that this time. From all I hear, if you're in ICC
heroic gear, it'll last till Deepholm (mostly), if you're in anything
lower, you'll replace it in Hyjal/Vash'jir. And even if you're in ICC
gear you'll *want* to replace some of it before Deepholm, since mobs
will start hitting harder at that point, and your old gear has half
the stamina new greens do. Now granted I've not levelled myself to
test it, but it's what pretty much everybody has said, anyway!
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
Tairbh (80 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)
Eilnich (75 Blood Elf Warlock)

Orion Ryder

11/29/2010 4:55:00 PM

0

On Nov 29, 11:33 am, Catriona R <catrionarNOS...@totalise.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:25:22 -0800 (PST), Orion Ryder
>
> <orionry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >At least for me and my wife.
>
> >Case 1
> >My hunter's meta gem - I had the ultimate one that was used by many,
> >21 agility + 3 % inc crit damage. I forget what the meta requirement
> >was but it was quite easy to get. Maybe it was one of each and
> >Pristine fixed that up but good. Now the requirement is that there has
> >to be more blue gems than red. HUH??!!
>
> >But da red gems was da boss gems for da hunter, mon!!
>
> >Now there will need to be a spreadsheet built to solve the dilemma of
> >making the maximum usage out of all the gems. Can;t just throw in one
> >Pristine and a zillion reds with +20 agility anymore
>
> Blizz have apparently decided to undo that "soon", shame they didn't
> do that before pushing it live, they got enough feedback about it on
> the beta forums for it to be obvious it was not a good idea!
>
> >Case 2
> >My wife's rogue, several gems - rogue had several orange gems combos
> >for agility and crit or agil and hit. Some of the socket colors that
> >she had those gems in have changed color. They are now blue instead of
> >the yellow that was there before. Now she does nto even have the bonus
> >because the color is mis-matched.
>
> >Blue gem on hunter and rogue? They are telling us to make an agil/
> >stamina purple now?
>
> Hit is now blue so take agi/hit, simples ;-) More of a nuisance for my
> caster alts, since I don't raid and only need 6% hit to cap as a
> result - it's totally impossible to get *under* 6% in any kind of
> decent gear, even with reforging as much of it off as I can, and so
> those blue sockets are a bit pointless... either ignore the colours
> entirely, or if bonus is good enough, use int/stamina, sigh.
>
> >Well I guess in a short while all that gear will be replaced.
>
> >But then again maybe not. When I hit Northrend my hutner and priest
> >were still using much of their gear from Kara and Gruul's until they
> >hit the level 80 dungeons. I think the only thing my hunter replaced
> >prior to that was the ranged weapon was replaced with that one from
> >the group quest in the Borean Tundra on the east side atop that
> >floating temple in the sky.
>
> It won't be like that this time. From all I hear, if you're in ICC
> heroic gear, it'll last till Deepholm (mostly), if you're in anything
> lower, you'll replace it in Hyjal/Vash'jir. And even if you're in ICC
> gear you'll *want* to replace some of it before Deepholm, since mobs
> will start hitting harder at that point, and your old gear has half
> the stamina new greens do. Now granted I've not levelled myself to
> test it, but it's what pretty much everybody has said, anyway!
> --
> EU-Draenor:
> Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
> Balgair (80 Human Rogue)
> Tairbh (80 Tauren Druid)
> Buinne (80 Troll Shaman)
> Ruire (80 Blood Elf Paladin)
> Eilnich (75 Blood Elf Warlock)

OMG!!

I just texted my wife to tell her not to redo her gems.

She texted me back. Let's see what she said.

"I already did grrr"

Dang it. I thought her top priority this morning was going to be north
STV.

I guess she reprioritized.

Oh well

OH! OH! OH!

Orion

Polarhound

11/29/2010 11:14:00 PM

0

They already said the meta requirements were going to be reverted in a
future patch.

Pete B

11/29/2010 11:25:00 PM

0

In article <8li2uaF527U1@mid.individual.net>,
catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk says...
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:25:22 -0800 (PST), Orion Ryder
> <orionryder@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >At least for me and my wife.
> >
> >Case 1
> >My hunter's meta gem - I had the ultimate one that was used by many,
> >21 agility + 3 % inc crit damage. I forget what the meta requirement
> >was but it was quite easy to get. Maybe it was one of each and
> >Pristine fixed that up but good. Now the requirement is that there has
> >to be more blue gems than red. HUH??!!
> >
> >But da red gems was da boss gems for da hunter, mon!!
> >
> >Now there will need to be a spreadsheet built to solve the dilemma of
> >making the maximum usage out of all the gems. Can;t just throw in one
> >Pristine and a zillion reds with +20 agility anymore
>
> Blizz have apparently decided to undo that "soon", shame they didn't
> do that before pushing it live, they got enough feedback about it on
> the beta forums for it to be obvious it was not a good idea!

Yeah, and it was the only subject which got feedback as well!

ting

11/30/2010 1:02:00 AM

0

On Nov 29, 6:14 pm, Polarhound <polarho...@comcast.net> wrote:
> They already said the meta requirements were going to be reverted in a
> future patch.

If you read between the lines, it sounded like people would be 85
before the fix came out. That is, it's going to be a tiny fix in a
much bigger patch that will be released *after* Cataclysm hits the
shelves. My guess? You won't see the fix for a month.
--
// T.Hsu

Polarhound

11/30/2010 12:07:00 PM

0

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136970/dps-meta-gem-changechan...

"The current design has been reconsidered, so we're planning to revert
gems that now require more blue than red gems back to their original
requirements. Such a change can't be accomplished via a hotfix though,
so we'll have to wait to revert these in a future patch. "

Crispus

11/30/2010 8:29:00 PM

0

On Nov 29, 11:25 am, Orion Ryder <orionry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> At least for me and my wife.
>
> Case 1
> My hunter's meta gem - I had the ultimate one that was used by many,
> 21 agility + 3 % inc crit damage. I forget what the meta requirement
> was but it was quite easy to get. Maybe it was one of each and
> Pristine fixed that up but good. Now the requirement is that there has
> to be more blue gems than red. HUH??!!
>
> But da red gems was da boss gems for da hunter, mon!!
>
> Now there will need to be a spreadsheet built to solve the dilemma of
> making the maximum usage out of all the gems. Can;t just throw in one
> Pristine and a zillion reds with +20 agility anymore
>
> Case 2
> My wife's rogue, several gems - rogue had several orange gems combos
> for agility and crit or agil and hit. Some of the socket colors that
> she had those gems in have changed color. They are now blue instead of
> the yellow that was there before. Now she does nto even have the bonus
> because the color is mis-matched.
>
> Blue gem on hunter and rogue? They are telling us to make an agil/
> stamina purple now?
>
> Well I guess in a short while all that gear will be replaced.
>
> But then again maybe not. When I hit Northrend my hutner and priest
> were still using much of their gear from Kara and Gruul's until they
> hit the level 80 dungeons. I think the only thing my hunter replaced
> prior to that was the ranged weapon was replaced with that one from
> the group quest in the Borean Tundra on the east side atop that
> floating temple in the sky.
>
> Oh well time to call out my JC and pop a few gems together.
>
> OH! OH! OH!
>
> Orion

For your hunter, switch to the haste meta in the mean time rather than
regem everything else. If you are MM or SV it's not a bad
compromise. It's almost impossible to get the agility meta to proc
based on its current configuration because you HAVE to use Blue gems
to ensure that you have more blue than red but blue gems currently
provide no dps unless you are not already at the hit cap. Remember
purple gems count as red and blue so they are a wash to make the meta
proc.

Otherwise, you have to wait for the fix (revert).

-Crispus