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Deck : Brutal Crypt Machine

XZealot

12/16/2010 9:50:00 PM

Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description : This is a crypt machine based on Potence using Brutal
Influence.



Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 3 average: 3
------------------------------------------------------------

1x Almodo Giovanni 3 dom pot Giovanni:4
1x Arriette Sylla 3 POT Osebo:4
1x Bill Butler 3 pot pro !Gangrel:4
1x Blister 3 obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Caroline Bishops 3 cel for pot Pander:4
1x Fergus Alexander 3 pot pro Gangrel:5
1x Foureyes 3 obf pot Nosferatu:4
1x Garret 3 pot pre Brujah:4
1x Kamaria 3 aus pot Osebo:4
1x Lynn Thompson 3 cel pot Brujah:5
1x Nunzio Giovanni 3 nec pot Giovanni:4
1x Smash 3 pot pre !Brujah:4


Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [46]
16x Brutal Influence
18x Mozambique Allure
12x Preternatural Strength

Combat [2]
1x Decapitate
1x Disarm

Equipment [5]
5x Nkishi

Master [25]
14x Orun
10x Potence
1x Powerbase: Luanda

Reaction [12]
12x Touch of Pain


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 16 15:48:32 2010]
11 Answers

Kevin M.

12/17/2010 12:11:00 AM

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XZealot wrote:
> Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description : This is a crypt machine based on Potence
> using Brutal Influence.
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 3 average: 3
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 11x 3-cap [pot]
> 1x 3-cap [POT]
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Master [25]
> 14x Orun
> 10x Potence
> 1x Powerbase: Luanda

No Fame?
No Haven Uncovered?

> Action [46]
> 16x Brutal Influence
> 18x Mozambique Allure
> 12x Preternatural Strength
>
> Combat [2]
> 1x Decapitate
> 1x Disarm

I'd add 1-2x more Disarm.
I don't like Decapitate, but whatever.

> Equipment [5]
> 5x Nkishi

These would be better as Leather Jacket.

> Reaction [12]
> 12x Touch of Pain

Instead of wasting your time with this, just make these into
more combat cards and smash the faces of the bleeder/voters.


Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
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hg

12/17/2010 5:34:00 PM

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XZealot <xzealot@cox.net> writes:

> Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description : This is a crypt machine based on Potence using Brutal
> Influence.


Love the idea.


> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [46]
> 16x Brutal Influence
> 18x Mozambique Allure


Plan A: turns you into a Laibon. Plan B: brings out more crypt. Lovely
card!


> 12x Preternatural Strength
>
> Combat [2]
> 1x Decapitate
> 1x Disarm


I've probably been influenced by all these decks of yours I'm reading all the
time, since my current favorite combat defense module is concealed Deer Rifles.

Don't the people you play with realize that if they play against you,
permamaneuvers will save their minions 90% of the time? Or do you use Jedi
mind tricks to control your metagame?


>
> Equipment [5]
> 5x Nkishi


Five copies of a *unique* equipment that's not necessary for your deck to
work...? Ditch four of them.


> Master [25]
> 14x Orun
> 10x Potence
> 1x Powerbase: Luanda
>
> Reaction [12]
> 12x Touch of Pain


Blah. I'd go with rushes and/or Horseshoes instead. Less hand jam
potential. But on the other hand, you already have 46+5 action cards...


HG

Chris Berger

12/17/2010 6:21:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 11:33 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:

> > Reaction [12]
> >   12x Touch of Pain
>
> Blah.  I'd go with rushes and/or Horseshoes instead.  Less hand jam
> potential.  But on the other hand, you already have 46+5 action cards...
>
>                 HG

I like Touch of Pain in this deck because you should be influencing
out 1 to 2 minions per turn so you'll always have one untapped to play
it. Compared to Horseshoes, it's like getting an extra action out of
your vamps the turn they come into play.

It's the engine to use superior Brutal Influence which looks like it
might be iffy... Needing to get a Potence Master and N Oruns on a
vamp to use a (usually) worse version of Govern... But it is pool
gain, and pool gain is good. And if you get POT and like 5 Oruns it
starts to be really good.

Wedge

12/17/2010 6:27:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 9:33 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> writes:
> > Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
> > Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> > Description :  This is a crypt machine based on Potence using Brutal
> > Influence.
>
> Love the idea.
>
> > Library [90 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Action [46]
> >   16x Brutal Influence
> >   18x Mozambique Allure
>
> Plan A: turns you into a Laibon.  Plan B: brings out more crypt.  Lovely
> card!
>
> >   12x Preternatural Strength
>
> > Combat [2]
> >   1x Decapitate
> >   1x Disarm
>
> I've probably been influenced by all these decks of yours I'm reading all the
> time, since my current favorite combat defense module is concealed Deer Rifles.
>
> Don't the people you play with realize that if they play against you,
> permamaneuvers will save their minions 90% of the time?  Or do you use Jedi
> mind tricks to control your metagame?
>
>
>
> > Equipment [5]
> >   5x Nkishi
>
> Five copies of a *unique* equipment that's not necessary for your deck to
> work...?  Ditch four of them.

I thought Nkishi was supposed to be Kerrie, until I looked it up.

Kerrie is still good for the deck though.

Wedge

12/17/2010 6:58:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 10:26 am, Wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 17, 9:33 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
>
>
>
> > XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> writes:
> > > Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
> > > Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> > > Description :  This is a crypt machine based on Potence using Brutal
> > > Influence.
>
> > Love the idea.
>
> > > Library [90 cards]
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Action [46]
> > >   16x Brutal Influence
> > >   18x Mozambique Allure
>
> > Plan A: turns you into a Laibon.  Plan B: brings out more crypt.  Lovely
> > card!
>
> > >   12x Preternatural Strength
>
> > > Combat [2]
> > >   1x Decapitate
> > >   1x Disarm
>
> > I've probably been influenced by all these decks of yours I'm reading all the
> > time, since my current favorite combat defense module is concealed Deer Rifles.
>
> > Don't the people you play with realize that if they play against you,
> > permamaneuvers will save their minions 90% of the time?  Or do you use Jedi
> > mind tricks to control your metagame?
>
> > > Equipment [5]
> > >   5x Nkishi
>
> > Five copies of a *unique* equipment that's not necessary for your deck to
> > work...?  Ditch four of them.
>
> I thought Nkishi was supposed to be Kerrie, until I looked it up.
>
> Kerrie is still good for the deck though.

liliths blessing seems good for the deck.

I assume nkishi is to get orun out of the ash heap, you could go
anarch instead to keep orun from burning do to bleeds.

Anarch Revolt / Touch of Pain?

Haze

12/17/2010 7:41:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 12:20 pm, Chris Berger <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> It's the engine to use superior Brutal Influence which looks like it
> might be iffy...  Needing to get a Potence Master and N Oruns on a
> vamp to use a (usually) worse version of Govern...  But it is pool
> gain, and pool gain is good.  And if you get POT and like 5 Oruns it
> starts to be really good.

Another problem is that only 2 vampires in the entire crypt are legal
targets for pool gain. Very inflexible.
It is physically impossible for any vampire in this crypt to get 5
Oruns anyway. 4 is possible, 5 is right out.
For all that complicated setup it might as well be Dominate skill
cards and Govern/conditioning.

Meej

12/17/2010 9:18:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 1:58 pm, Wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you could go
> anarch instead to keep orun from burning do to bleeds.

Oh, that's *cute* - as long as you're done putting Orun on, Brutal
Influence doesn't care that you're not Laibon, and the burn clauses
all *do* care if you're Laibon. You lose the faux-capacity and the
votes, but whatever. Need to remember that trick.

- D.J.

XZealot

12/17/2010 10:13:00 PM

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On Dec 17, 11:33 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> writes:
> > Deck Name : Brutal Crypt Machine
> > Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> > Description :  This is a crypt machine based on Potence using Brutal
> > Influence.
>
> Love the idea.
>
> > Library [90 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Action [46]
> >   16x Brutal Influence
> >   18x Mozambique Allure
>
> Plan A: turns you into a Laibon.  Plan B: brings out more crypt.  Lovely
> card!

It works great in decks that can move blood to uncontrolled vampires.
See also Grooming the Protege.

> >   12x Preternatural Strength
>
> > Combat [2]
> >   1x Decapitate
> >   1x Disarm
>
> I've probably been influenced by all these decks of yours I'm reading all the
> time, since my current favorite combat defense module is concealed Deer Rifles.
>
> Don't the people you play with realize that if they play against you,
> permamaneuvers will save their minions 90% of the time?  Or do you use Jedi
> mind tricks to control your metagame?

I was able to win a qualifier with a Aide from Bats/Target Vitals/
Carrion Crows deck. I certainly would have loved to see someone waste
their pool on Deer Rifles.

I don't put much stock in Jedi mind tricks.

> > Equipment [5]
> >   5x Nkishi
>
> Five copies of a *unique* equipment that's not necessary for your deck to
> work...?  Ditch four of them.

If you only want to see it once every 5 games then sure get rid of 4
of them. If you want to see it consistantly early every game then you
put 5 of them.

> > Master [25]
> >   14x Orun
> >   10x Potence
> >   1x Powerbase: Luanda
>
> > Reaction [12]
> >   12x Touch of Pain
>
> Blah.  I'd go with rushes and/or Horseshoes instead.  Less hand jam
> potential.  But on the other hand, you already have 46+5 action cards...

Why, my actions are bleeds or bloat. Bounce can't handle swarms.

hg

12/19/2010 5:17:00 PM

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Haze <headlessrose@gmail.com> writes:

> On Dec 17, 12:20 pm, Chris Berger <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> > It's the engine to use superior Brutal Influence which looks like it
> > might be iffy...  Needing to get a Potence Master and N Oruns on a
> > vamp to use a (usually) worse version of Govern...  But it is pool
> > gain, and pool gain is good.  And if you get POT and like 5 Oruns it
> > starts to be really good.
>
> Another problem is that only 2 vampires in the entire crypt are legal
> targets for pool gain. Very inflexible.


Ouch, I (along with Norm) missed that. Good call.

Mozambique can't allure uncontrolled vamps. So it's back to the drawing
board for Norm.


HG

hg

12/19/2010 6:49:00 PM

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XZealot <xzealot@cox.net> writes:

> On Dec 17, 11:33 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> > I've probably been influenced by all these decks of yours I'm reading all the
> > time, since my current favorite combat defense module is concealed Deer Rifles.
> >
> > Don't the people you play with realize that if they play against you,
> > permamaneuvers will save their minions 90% of the time?  Or do you use Jedi
> > mind tricks to control your metagame?
>
> I was able to win a qualifier with a Aide from Bats/Target Vitals/
> Carrion Crows deck. I certainly would have loved to see someone waste
> their pool on Deer Rifles.
>
> I don't put much stock in Jedi mind tricks.


OK, so it's observer bias them: you have lots of decks that rape
permamaneuvers, but you don't post them here, and/or I don't notice them.


HG