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Card Idea- Subterfuge

brandonsantacruz

12/15/2010 8:31:00 PM

Subterfuge
Master
Put this card on a vampire. Younger vampires of the same sect get -1
intercept when attempting to block this vampire.

Flavor text:
"The laws and statutes of a nation
are an inherited disease"
Mephisto, Goethe's Faust

The quote gave me the idea. What do you think? Would this be fun?
Would it give nice flavor to a high-cap deck?

Brandon
8 Answers

XZealot

12/15/2010 9:45:00 PM

0

On Dec 15, 2:30 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Subterfuge
> Master
> Put this card on a vampire. Younger vampires of the same sect get -1
> intercept when attempting to block this vampire.
>
> Flavor text:
> "The laws and statutes of a nation
> are an inherited disease"
> Mephisto, Goethe's Faust
>
> The quote gave me the idea. What do you think? Would this be fun?
> Would it give nice flavor to a high-cap deck?

it looks like wallpaper.

It would be better if it was of "different sects"

brandonsantacruz

12/15/2010 10:21:00 PM

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On Dec 15, 1:44 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2:30 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Subterfuge
> > Master
> > Put this card on a vampire. Younger vampires of the same sect get -1
> > intercept when attempting to block this vampire.
>
> > Flavor text:
> > "The laws and statutes of a nation
> > are an inherited disease"
> > Mephisto, Goethe's Faust
>
> > The quote gave me the idea. What do you think? Would this be fun?
> > Would it give nice flavor to a high-cap deck?
>
> it looks like wallpaper.
>
> It would be better if it was of "different sects"

What if it was a trifle? I was picturing a vote deck without a bunch
of stealth being able to use it. It seems like it would be easy enough
to throw one copy in a deck since there is no cost and hardly any
requirement. You don't even have to play it on your vampires. I might
use a different name for the card, but that's just what came to mind.

Brandon

Juggernaut1981

12/15/2010 11:48:00 PM

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On Dec 16, 9:20 am, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 15, 1:44 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 15, 2:30 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Subterfuge
> > > Master
> > > Put this card on a vampire. Younger vampires of the same sect get -1
> > > intercept when attempting to block this vampire.
>
> > > Flavor text:
> > > "The laws and statutes of a nation
> > > are an inherited disease"
> > > Mephisto, Goethe's Faust
>
> > > The quote gave me the idea. What do you think? Would this be fun?
> > > Would it give nice flavor to a high-cap deck?
>
> > it looks like wallpaper.
>
> > It would be better if it was of "different sects"
>
> What if it was a trifle? I was picturing a vote deck without a bunch
> of stealth being able to use it. It seems like it would be easy enough
> to throw one copy in a deck since there is no cost and hardly any
> requirement. You don't even have to play it on your vampires. I might
> use a different name for the card, but that's just what came to mind.
>
> Brandon

Subterfuge
Action Modifier
1 blood
Only playable on undirected actions. Only playable when declaring the
action.
Younger vampires and allies must burn 1 blood or life if they block
this action.

Ruben Feldman

12/16/2010 12:06:00 PM

0

> Subterfuge
> Action Modifier
> 1 blood
> Only playable on undirected actions.  Only playable when declaring the
> action.
> Younger vampires and allies must burn 1 blood or life if they block
> this action.

Wow, talk about wallpaper... Ever seen crocodile's tongue?

Martin Major

12/16/2010 12:08:00 PM

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On 16 Dez., 13:06, Ruben Feldman <frub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Subterfuge
> > Action Modifier
> > 1 blood
> > Only playable on undirected actions.  Only playable when declaring the
> > action.
> > Younger vampires and allies must burn 1 blood or life if they block
> > this action.
>
> Wow, talk about wallpaper... Ever seen crocodile's tongue?

Ruben is right.

Jeff Kuta

12/16/2010 3:55:00 PM

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On Dec 15, 12:30 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Subterfuge
> Master
> Put this card on a vampire. Younger vampires of the same sect get -1
> intercept when attempting to block this vampire.
>
> Flavor text:
> "The laws and statutes of a nation
> are an inherited disease"
> Mephisto, Goethe's Faust
>
> The quote gave me the idea. What do you think? Would this be fun?
> Would it give nice flavor to a high-cap deck?
>
> Brandon


How about:

It's Not a Right, It's a Privilege
Event
Government
Untitled vampires get -1 intecept when attempting to block titled
vampires.
Burn this card when any Methuselah is ousted.

brandonsantacruz

12/16/2010 4:28:00 PM

0

On Dec 16, 7:54 am, Jeff Kuta <jeff.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about:
>
> It's Not a Right, It's a Privilege
> Event
> Government
> Untitled vampires get -1 intecept when attempting to block titled
> vampires.
> Burn this card when any Methuselah is ousted.

There you go, now what vote deck wouldn't want a card like that?

brandon

Legendre

12/18/2010 4:53:00 PM

0

I think I like Juggernaut's idea of making a card like this an Action
Modifier better, but even though Crocodile's Tongue requires a
discipline and his proposed card doesn't, I think most big vote decks
are going to have auspex at their disposal so it is a little bit
wallpaperish, but only in the sense that "Open Grate" or "Dead End
Alley" is wallpaperish.

The reason I think it should be a modifier is that if it's a master
card, it becomes an instant staple in every large-cap vote deck. If
it's a modifier card, there's a question of whether to include it, how
many, and so forth. I also don't see any reason not to make it vote-
specific, and leave huntings and recruitments and such to their own
special stealth cards (i.e., Jack of Both Sides).

So maybe something like:

Covert Lobbying
Action Modifier, 1 blood
Requires a titled vampire.
Play when a political action is announced,
Allies receive -3 intercept when attempting to block this action.
Younger vampires, vampires without titles, and tapped vampires receive
-1 intercept. These penalties are cumulative.
A vampire who attempts and fails to block this action may not vote in
any resulting referendum.