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Italian National Championship 2010 (TWD

extrala

12/6/2010 11:08:00 AM

Campionato Italiano 2010
Bologna, 28th November 2010
Constructed, 3R + F
51 players
Guido Canciani

Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
===============================================
1x Emily Carson 5 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
1x Graham Gottesman 7 obf pre tha DOM FOR Ventrue:5
1x Lodin (Olaf Holte) 8 aus pro DOM FOR PRE Ventrue:5
1x Mustafa, The Heir 6 cel dom FOR PRE Ventrue:4
1x Reginald Moore 4 PRE Brujah:4
1x Tara 6 cel POT PRE Brujah:5
1x Vasily 6 aus pre ser CEL Toreador:5
2x Victor Donaldson 6 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
3x Victor Pelletier 5 cel dom for PRE Ventrue:4

Library (70 cards)
==================
Master (17)
1x Anarch Troublemaker
6x Ashur Tablets
1x Coven, The
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
3x Information Highway
1x Island of Yiaros
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Temptation of Greater Power

Event (1)
1x Fourth Cycle, The

Action (8)
3x Entrancement
5x Govern the Unaligned

Political Action (17)
1x Alastor
1x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancilla Empowerment
1x Conservative Agitation
1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
5x Kine Resources Contested
7x Parity Shift

Equipment (4)
1x AK-47
3x Heart of Nizchetus

Ally (1)
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)

Action Modifier (9)
9x Freak Drive

Reaction (6)
6x Deflection

Combat (5)
5x Majesty

Combo (2)
2x Force of Personality

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Dec 6, 2010 12:58:52)
7 Answers

librarian

12/6/2010 3:29:00 PM

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On 12/6/2010 3:07 AM, extrala wrote:
> Campionato Italiano 2010
> Bologna, 28th November 2010
> Constructed, 3R + F
> 51 players
> Guido Canciani
>
> Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5
>
> Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
> ===============================================
> 1x Emily Carson 5 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
> 1x Graham Gottesman 7 obf pre tha DOM FOR Ventrue:5
> 1x Lodin (Olaf Holte) 8 aus pro DOM FOR PRE Ventrue:5
> 1x Mustafa, The Heir 6 cel dom FOR PRE Ventrue:4
> 1x Reginald Moore 4 PRE Brujah:4
> 1x Tara 6 cel POT PRE Brujah:5
> 1x Vasily 6 aus pre ser CEL Toreador:5
> 2x Victor Donaldson 6 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
> 3x Victor Pelletier 5 cel dom for PRE Ventrue:4
>
> Library (70 cards)
> ==================
> Master (17)
> 1x Anarch Troublemaker
> 6x Ashur Tablets
> 1x Coven, The
> 3x Dreams of the Sphinx
> 3x Information Highway
> 1x Island of Yiaros
> 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> 1x Temptation of Greater Power
>
> Event (1)
> 1x Fourth Cycle, The
>
> Action (8)
> 3x Entrancement
> 5x Govern the Unaligned
>
> Political Action (17)
> 1x Alastor
> 1x Anarchist Uprising
> 1x Ancilla Empowerment
> 1x Conservative Agitation
> 1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
> 5x Kine Resources Contested
> 7x Parity Shift
>
> Equipment (4)
> 1x AK-47
> 3x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> Ally (1)
> 1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>
> Action Modifier (9)
> 9x Freak Drive
>
> Reaction (6)
> 6x Deflection
>
> Combat (5)
> 5x Majesty
>
> Combo (2)
> 2x Force of Personality


@Bakija:

51 players Peter. And so very little combat in this deck. Maybe the
combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
on their goals of winning. And no stealth. In LA, the intercept, even
casual intercept would just kill you.

chris

brandonsantacruz

12/6/2010 4:31:00 PM

0

On Dec 6, 7:28 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
> On 12/6/2010 3:07 AM, extrala wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Campionato Italiano 2010
> > Bologna, 28th November 2010
> > Constructed, 3R + F
> > 51 players
> > Guido Canciani
>
> > Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5
>
> > Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
> > ===============================================
> >   1x  Emily Carson         5  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> >   1x  Graham Gottesman     7  obf pre tha DOM FOR  Ventrue:5
> >   1x  Lodin (Olaf Holte)   8  aus pro DOM FOR PRE  Ventrue:5
> >   1x  Mustafa, The Heir    6  cel dom FOR PRE      Ventrue:4
> >   1x  Reginald Moore       4  PRE                  Brujah:4
> >   1x  Tara                 6  cel POT PRE          Brujah:5
> >   1x  Vasily               6  aus pre ser CEL      Toreador:5
> >   2x  Victor Donaldson     6  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> >   3x  Victor Pelletier     5  cel dom for PRE      Ventrue:4
>
> > Library (70 cards)
> > ==================
> > Master (17)
> >   1x Anarch Troublemaker
> >   6x Ashur Tablets
> >   1x Coven, The
> >   3x Dreams of the Sphinx
> >   3x Information Highway
> >   1x Island of Yiaros
> >   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> >   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>
> > Event (1)
> >   1x Fourth Cycle, The
>
> > Action (8)
> >   3x Entrancement
> >   5x Govern the Unaligned
>
> > Political Action (17)
> >   1x Alastor
> >   1x Anarchist Uprising
> >   1x Ancilla Empowerment
> >   1x Conservative Agitation
> >   1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
> >   5x Kine Resources Contested
> >   7x Parity Shift
>
> > Equipment (4)
> >   1x AK-47
> >   3x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> > Ally (1)
> >   1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>
> > Action Modifier (9)
> >   9x Freak Drive
>
> > Reaction (6)
> >   6x Deflection
>
> > Combat (5)
> >   5x Majesty
>
> > Combo (2)
> >   2x Force of Personality
>
> @Bakija:
>
> 51 players Peter.  And so very little combat in this deck.  Maybe the
> combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
> on their goals of winning. And no stealth.  In LA, the intercept, even
> casual intercept would just kill you.
>
> chris

1/10 cards is S:CE, most of which untap you. Unless you face a hard-
core combat deck, that usually is about right. With all the card
cycling, looks like this deck can get the right cards out at the right
time. What surprises me is the lack of bleed modifiers. Island of
Yiaros? Thats... unexpected.

Brandon

Jeff Kuta

12/6/2010 4:48:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 8:31 am, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 6, 7:28 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12/6/2010 3:07 AM, extrala wrote:
>
> > > Campionato Italiano 2010
> > > Bologna, 28th November 2010
> > > Constructed, 3R + F
> > > 51 players
> > > Guido Canciani
>
> > > Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5
>
> > > Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
> > > ===============================================
> > >   1x  Emily Carson         5  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Graham Gottesman     7  obf pre tha DOM FOR  Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Lodin (Olaf Holte)   8  aus pro DOM FOR PRE  Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Mustafa, The Heir    6  cel dom FOR PRE      Ventrue:4
> > >   1x  Reginald Moore       4  PRE                  Brujah:4
> > >   1x  Tara                 6  cel POT PRE          Brujah:5
> > >   1x  Vasily               6  aus pre ser CEL      Toreador:5
> > >   2x  Victor Donaldson     6  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> > >   3x  Victor Pelletier     5  cel dom for PRE      Ventrue:4
>
> > > Library (70 cards)
> > > ==================
> > > Master (17)
> > >   1x Anarch Troublemaker
> > >   6x Ashur Tablets
> > >   1x Coven, The
> > >   3x Dreams of the Sphinx
> > >   3x Information Highway
> > >   1x Island of Yiaros
> > >   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> > >   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>
> > > Event (1)
> > >   1x Fourth Cycle, The
>
> > > Action (8)
> > >   3x Entrancement
> > >   5x Govern the Unaligned
>
> > > Political Action (17)
> > >   1x Alastor
> > >   1x Anarchist Uprising
> > >   1x Ancilla Empowerment
> > >   1x Conservative Agitation
> > >   1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
> > >   5x Kine Resources Contested
> > >   7x Parity Shift
>
> > > Equipment (4)
> > >   1x AK-47
> > >   3x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> > > Ally (1)
> > >   1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>
> > > Action Modifier (9)
> > >   9x Freak Drive
>
> > > Reaction (6)
> > >   6x Deflection
>
> > > Combat (5)
> > >   5x Majesty
>
> > > Combo (2)
> > >   2x Force of Personality
>
> > @Bakija:
>
> > 51 players Peter.  And so very little combat in this deck.  Maybe the
> > combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
> > on their goals of winning. And no stealth.  In LA, the intercept, even
> > casual intercept would just kill you.
>
> > chris
>
> 1/10  cards is S:CE, most of which untap you. Unless you face a hard-
> core combat deck, that usually is about right. With all the card
> cycling, looks like this deck can get the right cards out at the right
> time. What surprises me is the lack of bleed modifiers. Island of
> Yiaros? Thats... unexpected.
>
> Brandon

There are 6x Ashur Tablets. That's a lot of Majesty if necessary.

Jeff

Peter D Bakija

12/6/2010 5:08:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 10:28 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
> 51 players Peter.  And so very little combat in this deck.  Maybe the
> combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
> on their goals of winning. And no stealth.  In LA, the intercept, even
> casual intercept would just kill you.

I think this goes back to what I was saying last week--looking at the
decks that do well in Europe, you see a lot of very focused decks that
have not much, if any, combat. Which means that they tend to either
not sit next to combat and do well, or sit next to combat and get
crushed, and then not be the deck that shows up as a winner.

This deck does have 7/70 S:CE cards and then the Ashurs to recycle as
needed, however.

That being said, I suspect that given the general state of decks I see
winning a lot in Europe, there probably aren't that many combat decks
doing the rounds?

-Peter

Brum

12/6/2010 6:30:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 4:31 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 6, 7:28 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12/6/2010 3:07 AM, extrala wrote:
>
> > > Campionato Italiano 2010
> > > Bologna, 28th November 2010
> > > Constructed, 3R + F
> > > 51 players
> > > Guido Canciani
>
> > > Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5
>
> > > Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
> > > ===============================================
> > >   1x  Emily Carson         5  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Graham Gottesman     7  obf pre tha DOM FOR  Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Lodin (Olaf Holte)   8  aus pro DOM FOR PRE  Ventrue:5
> > >   1x  Mustafa, The Heir    6  cel dom FOR PRE      Ventrue:4
> > >   1x  Reginald Moore       4  PRE                  Brujah:4
> > >   1x  Tara                 6  cel POT PRE          Brujah:5
> > >   1x  Vasily               6  aus pre ser CEL      Toreador:5
> > >   2x  Victor Donaldson     6  for pre DOM          Ventrue:5
> > >   3x  Victor Pelletier     5  cel dom for PRE      Ventrue:4
>
> > > Library (70 cards)
> > > ==================
> > > Master (17)
> > >   1x Anarch Troublemaker
> > >   6x Ashur Tablets
> > >   1x Coven, The
> > >   3x Dreams of the Sphinx
> > >   3x Information Highway
> > >   1x Island of Yiaros
> > >   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> > >   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>
> > > Event (1)
> > >   1x Fourth Cycle, The
>
> > > Action (8)
> > >   3x Entrancement
> > >   5x Govern the Unaligned
>
> > > Political Action (17)
> > >   1x Alastor
> > >   1x Anarchist Uprising
> > >   1x Ancilla Empowerment
> > >   1x Conservative Agitation
> > >   1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
> > >   5x Kine Resources Contested
> > >   7x Parity Shift
>
> > > Equipment (4)
> > >   1x AK-47
> > >   3x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> > > Ally (1)
> > >   1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>
> > > Action Modifier (9)
> > >   9x Freak Drive
>
> > > Reaction (6)
> > >   6x Deflection
>
> > > Combat (5)
> > >   5x Majesty
>
> > > Combo (2)
> > >   2x Force of Personality
>
> > @Bakija:
>
> > 51 players Peter.  And so very little combat in this deck.  Maybe the
> > combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
> > on their goals of winning. And no stealth.  In LA, the intercept, even
> > casual intercept would just kill you.
>
> > chris
>
> 1/10  cards is S:CE, most of which untap you. Unless you face a hard-
> core combat deck, that usually is about right. With all the card
> cycling, looks like this deck can get the right cards out at the right
> time. What surprises me is the lack of bleed modifiers. Island of
> Yiaros? Thats... unexpected.
>
> Brandon

Island of Yaros might be meta vs Imbued, Shambling Hordes, Nephandus,
Brujah Debate, etc.
At least for me it would be. :)

Tiago

Brum

12/6/2010 6:43:00 PM

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On Dec 6, 5:07 pm, Peter D Bakija <p...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 10:28 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>
> > 51 players Peter.  And so very little combat in this deck.  Maybe the
> > combat players at the tourney just beat each other up instead of focusing
> > on their goals of winning. And no stealth.  In LA, the intercept, even
> > casual intercept would just kill you.
>
> I think this goes back to what I was saying last week--looking at the
> decks that do well in Europe, you see a lot of very focused decks that
> have not much, if any, combat. Which means that they tend to either
> not sit next to combat and do well, or sit next to combat and get
> crushed, and then not be the deck that shows up as a winner.
>
> This deck does have 7/70 S:CE cards and then the Ashurs to recycle as
> needed, however.
>
> That being said, I suspect that given the general state of decks I see
> winning a lot in Europe, there probably aren't that many combat decks
> doing the rounds?
>
> -Peter

Would you say that in the US, there might be a focused combat deck
every other table?
If so, it is the same as I've seen in Europe.
The difference is our tournaments are bigger and the decks that do
well are focused, due to the environment of having so many players.
A combat deck doesn't do enough VP's to reach the Final.
Many times what happens is that the decks without much combat defense
can reach cross-table to harm the Rusher first. And many times the
Rusher needs to go backwards allot. Or else a bleed of 6 plus
deflected bleeds will kill him or at least stop him from having more
then one minion.

Another decision people make is this: if I'm up against focused
combat, S:CE is not enough, therefore I'll drop those slots and fill
with cards that make me win in all cases, except when up against
combat.
In big tournaments it works. In small tournaments it can go horribly
wrong.

Tiago

Tetragrammaton

12/7/2010 8:25:00 AM

0


"extrala" <ralf.lammert@gmx.de> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:7b76f031-98ee-4219-ab2e-b77da8d878fc@h16g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> Campionato Italiano 2010
> Bologna, 28th November 2010
> Constructed, 3R + F
> 51 players
> Guido Canciani
>
> Action oriented Ventrue g4-g5
>
> Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=5.75)
> ===============================================
> 1x Emily Carson 5 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
> 1x Graham Gottesman 7 obf pre tha DOM FOR Ventrue:5
> 1x Lodin (Olaf Holte) 8 aus pro DOM FOR PRE Ventrue:5
> 1x Mustafa, The Heir 6 cel dom FOR PRE Ventrue:4
> 1x Reginald Moore 4 PRE Brujah:4
> 1x Tara 6 cel POT PRE Brujah:5
> 1x Vasily 6 aus pre ser CEL Toreador:5
> 2x Victor Donaldson 6 for pre DOM Ventrue:5
> 3x Victor Pelletier 5 cel dom for PRE Ventrue:4
>
> Library (70 cards)
> ==================
> Master (17)
> 1x Anarch Troublemaker
> 6x Ashur Tablets
> 1x Coven, The
> 3x Dreams of the Sphinx
> 3x Information Highway
> 1x Island of Yiaros
> 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> 1x Temptation of Greater Power
>
> Event (1)
> 1x Fourth Cycle, The
>
> Action (8)
> 3x Entrancement
> 5x Govern the Unaligned
>
> Political Action (17)
> 1x Alastor
> 1x Anarchist Uprising
> 1x Ancilla Empowerment
> 1x Conservative Agitation
> 1x First Tradition: The Masquerade
> 5x Kine Resources Contested
> 7x Parity Shift
>
> Equipment (4)
> 1x AK-47
> 3x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> Ally (1)
> 1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>
> Action Modifier (9)
> 9x Freak Drive
>
> Reaction (6)
> 6x Deflection
>
> Combat (5)
> 5x Majesty
>
> Combo (2)
> 2x Force of Personality
>
> Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Dec 6, 2010 12:58:52)


Thank you for reporting this, both here and on your blog :-)
The tournament went pretty well, my personal thanks to his organizer,
Bologna's prince Simone.
Kudos also to Guido for bringing to victory his well-tested political deck

best

Emiliano, NC Italy
www.italybynight.org