Usa Forum - Deck: Rata-Mata-Hari - rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Martin Tibor Major

12/2/2010 7:26:00 PM

Hi folks!

No deck list, yet. My idea is to build a Mata Hari rush deck around
this idea:

Talbot's Chainsaw
Blood Shield
Kevlar Vest
3x Blood Tempering

If these are equipped Mata Hari can strike for 3 + 3 (because of the
press), prevent 2 damage each round of combat, prevent 4 more damage,
have a built in rush, prevent 1 more damage against weapons and make
use of Blood Shields special. She can also recruit Ponticulus,
Ambrosius and Tye Cooper!

I have no idea of ho the rest of the deck should look like, so here is
my idea: please post your version of the deck! Please note that the
deck should be somewhere between 60 - 75 cards and must include this
"combo".

I promise that I will choose a deck from all the posts, build it and
play it on my first tournament in 2011! Credits will be given of
course.

Some ideas I had (for inspiration):

a) Giovanni support with Graverobbing and Sudario
b) Laibon weenie support with Kholos
c) Nosferatu support with Benjamin and Nosferatu Justicar + Parity
Shift
d) Ravnos weenie support with Week of Nightmares

These are just some ideas, feel free to make up your own.

Thanks in advance!!!

Mephistopheles

21 Answers

XZealot

12/2/2010 8:08:00 PM

On Dec 2, 1:26 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> No deck list, yet. My idea is to build a Mata Hari rush deck around
> this idea:
>
> Talbot's Chainsaw
> Blood Shield
> Kevlar Vest
> 3x Blood Tempering

Blood Tempuring does not allow Talbot's Chainsaw to do an additional
damage but Janni's special does!

Deck Name : Janni Solves All with a Sawsall
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :
Janni multi-rush deck that uses Forced March, Freak Drives and
Precognizant mobility to untap;

Janni gets +1 damage with weapons which means Kali's Fang Striks for 3
agg (4 agg if blood tempered), Talbot's does 4 damage and prevents 1
( prevents 2 if blood tempered), and the Ivory Bow strikes for 2 agg.

Thaumaturgy wielding vampires can fish out needed equpiment with Magic
of the Smith.

Tremere can put Ponticulus into play to take the hits from Talbots
chainsaw

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 3.16667
------------------------------------------------------------

5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
3x Janni 5 cel for obf qui Assamite:4
2x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3

Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [20]
2x Ambush
3x Big Game
3x Blood Tempering
3x Bum's Rush
2x Harass
2x Magic of the Smith
5x Precognizant Mobility

Action / Combat [2]
2x Steely Tenacity

Action Modifier [11]
2x CrimethInc.
6x Forced March
3x Freak Drive

Ally [2]
2x Ponticulus

Combat [12]
12x Diversion

Equipment [6]
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Flak Jacket
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kali's Fang
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Talbot's Chainsaw

Master [12]
3x Auspex
2x Fame
1x Flames of Insurrection
1x Perfectionist
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Vast Wealth
3x Vessel

Reaction [25]
2x Delaying Tactics
9x Eyes of Argus
4x My Enemy's Enemy
3x On the Qui Vive
7x Telepathic Misdirection

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 14:07:49 2010]

Martin Tibor Major

12/2/2010 8:18:00 PM

On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 1:26 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks!
>
> > No deck list, yet. My idea is to build a Mata Hari rush deck around
> > this idea:
>
> > Talbot's Chainsaw
> > Blood Shield
> > Kevlar Vest
> > 3x Blood Tempering
>
> Blood Tempuring does not allow Talbot's Chainsaw to do an additional
> damage but Janni's special does!
>
> Deck Name : Janni Solves All with a Sawsall
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
> Janni multi-rush deck that uses Forced March, Freak Drives and
> Precognizant mobility to untap;
>
> Janni gets +1 damage with weapons which means Kali's Fang Striks for 3
> agg (4 agg if blood tempered), Talbot's does 4 damage and prevents 1
> ( prevents 2 if blood tempered), and the Ivory Bow strikes for 2 agg.
>
> Thaumaturgy wielding vampires can fish out needed equpiment with Magic
> of the Smith.
>
> Tremere can put Ponticulus into play to take the hits from Talbots
> chainsaw
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 3.16667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> 3x Janni 5 cel for obf qui Assamite:4
> 2x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
> 1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
> 1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [20]
> 2x Ambush
> 3x Big Game
> 3x Blood Tempering
> 3x Bum's Rush
> 2x Harass
> 2x Magic of the Smith
> 5x Precognizant Mobility
>
> Action / Combat [2]
> 2x Steely Tenacity
>
> Action Modifier [11]
> 2x CrimethInc.
> 6x Forced March
> 3x Freak Drive
>
> Ally [2]
> 2x Ponticulus
>
> Combat [12]
> 12x Diversion
>
> Equipment [6]
> 1x Bowl of Convergence
> 1x Flak Jacket
> 1x Ivory Bow
> 1x Kali's Fang
> 1x Kevlar Vest
> 1x Talbot's Chainsaw
>
> Master [12]
> 3x Auspex
> 2x Fame
> 1x Flames of Insurrection
> 1x Perfectionist
> 1x Tension in the Ranks
> 1x Vast Wealth
> 3x Vessel
>
> Reaction [25]
> 2x Delaying Tactics
> 9x Eyes of Argus
> 4x My Enemy's Enemy
> 3x On the Qui Vive
> 7x Telepathic Misdirection
>
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 14:07:49 2010]

First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?

Meej

12/2/2010 8:32:00 PM

On Dec 2, 3:17 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:

> First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
> damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
> build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
> can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
> Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?

I've got something brewing in my head, but haven't had time to put it
to paper yet.

- D.J.

Martin Tibor Major

12/2/2010 8:42:00 PM

On 2 Dez., 21:32, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 3:17 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
> > damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
> > build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
> > can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
> > Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?
>
> I've got something brewing in my head, but haven't had time to put it
> to paper yet.
>
> - D.J.

Please post it when you have it! I am looking forward to read it.

Cheers!

suoli

12/2/2010 9:24:00 PM

On 2 joulu, 21:26, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> No deck list, yet. My idea is to build a Mata Hari rush deck around
> this idea:
>
> Talbot's Chainsaw
> Blood Shield
> Kevlar Vest
> 3x Blood Tempering
>
> If these are equipped Mata Hari can strike for 3 + 3 (because of the
> press), prevent 2 damage each round of combat, prevent 4 more damage,
> have a built in rush, prevent 1 more damage against weapons and make
> use of Blood Shields special. She can also recruit Ponticulus,
> Ambrosius and Tye Cooper!
>
> I have no idea of ho the rest of the deck should look like, so here is
> my idea: please post your version of the deck! Please note that the
> deck should be somewhere between 60 - 75 cards and must include this
> "combo".
>
> I promise that I will choose a deck from all the posts, build it and
> play it on my first tournament in 2011! Credits will be given of
> course.
>
> Some ideas I had (for inspiration):
>
> a) Giovanni support with Graverobbing and Sudario
> b) Laibon weenie support with Kholos
> c) Nosferatu support with Benjamin and Nosferatu Justicar + Parity
> Shift
> d) Ravnos weenie support with Week of Nightmares
>
> These are just some ideas, feel free to make up your own.
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> Mephistopheles

Deck Name : Turbo-Hari
Description : Ankara for obvious reasons. Luanda for a second rush.
For-weenies for grabbing the gear from Mata, Freak Driving and
rushing. Allies + Unmasking for defense. Vaticination because it's
better to be safe than sorry. Sargon Fragment, Waste Management
Operation and Tye Cooper for recycling. Codex, Reckless Agitation and
Andre for ousting.

Sudario was omitted because it doesn't work with a depleted library.
Add stealth, rush cards or Death Seekers according to the local
metagame.

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 7 average: 4.66667
------------------------------------------------------------

5x Mata Hari 7 CHI OBF aus for qui 2 votes Ravnos:4
2x Andre LeRoux 3 aus Toreador:5
1x Abu Nuwasi 3 cel for Ishtarri:4
1x Rashiel 3 for val !Salubri:4
1x Rosemarie 3 FOR mel Daughter :4
1x T.J. 3 cel for Gangrel:4
1x Ulrike Rothbart 3 dom for !Ventrue:4

Library [60 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [10]
3x Blood Tempering
1x Concert Tour
1x Legend of the Leopard
4x Sibyl's Tongue
1x Vaticination

Action Modifier [25]
1x Faceless Night
23x Freak Drive
1x Lost in Crowds

Action Modifier/Combat [2]
1x Mirror Image
1x Swallowed by the Night

Ally [5]
1x Ambrosius, The Ferryman (Wraith)
1x Asanbonsam Ghoul
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Ponticulus
1x Tye Cooper

Combat [1]
1x Death Seeker

Equipment [9]
2x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The
1x Blood Shield
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Sargon Fragment, The
1x Shilmulo Tarot
1x Talbot's Chainsaw

Event [1]
1x Unmasking, The

Master [6]
1x Powerbase: Luanda
1x Powerbase: Tshwane
1x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Vessel
1x Waste Management Operation
1x Wider View

Political Action [1]
1x Reckless Agitation

XZealot

12/2/2010 10:31:00 PM

On Dec 2, 2:17 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 2, 1:26 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi folks!
>
> > > No deck list, yet. My idea is to build a Mata Hari rush deck around
> > > this idea:
>
> > > Talbot's Chainsaw
> > > Blood Shield
> > > Kevlar Vest
> > > 3x Blood Tempering
>
> > Blood Tempuring does not allow Talbot's Chainsaw to do an additional
> > damage but Janni's special does!
>
> > Deck Name : Janni Solves All with a Sawsall
> > Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> > Description :
> > Janni multi-rush deck that uses Forced March, Freak Drives and
> > Precognizant mobility to untap;
>
> > Janni gets +1 damage with weapons which means Kali's Fang Striks for 3
> > agg (4 agg if blood tempered), Talbot's does 4 damage and prevents 1
> > ( prevents 2 if blood tempered), and the Ivory Bow strikes for 2 agg.
>
> > Thaumaturgy wielding vampires can fish out needed equpiment with Magic
> > of the Smith.
>
> > Tremere can put Ponticulus into play to take the hits from Talbots
> > chainsaw
>
> > Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 3.16667
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > 5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> > 3x Janni 5 cel for obf qui Assamite:4
> > 2x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
> > 1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
> > 1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
>
> > Library [90 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Action [20]
> > 2x Ambush
> > 3x Big Game
> > 3x Blood Tempering
> > 3x Bum's Rush
> > 2x Harass
> > 2x Magic of the Smith
> > 5x Precognizant Mobility
>
> > Action / Combat [2]
> > 2x Steely Tenacity
>
> > Action Modifier [11]
> > 2x CrimethInc.
> > 6x Forced March
> > 3x Freak Drive
>
> > Ally [2]
> > 2x Ponticulus
>
> > Combat [12]
> > 12x Diversion
>
> > Equipment [6]
> > 1x Bowl of Convergence
> > 1x Flak Jacket
> > 1x Ivory Bow
> > 1x Kali's Fang
> > 1x Kevlar Vest
> > 1x Talbot's Chainsaw
>
> > Master [12]
> > 3x Auspex
> > 2x Fame
> > 1x Flames of Insurrection
> > 1x Perfectionist
> > 1x Tension in the Ranks
> > 1x Vast Wealth
> > 3x Vessel
>
> > Reaction [25]
> > 2x Delaying Tactics
> > 9x Eyes of Argus
> > 4x My Enemy's Enemy
> > 3x On the Qui Vive
> > 7x Telepathic Misdirection
>
> > Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 14:07:49 2010]
>
> First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
> damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
> build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
> can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
> Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?

Deck Name : Mata Hari Solves All with a Sawsall
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :
Mata Hari multi-rush deck that uses Forced March, Freak Drives and
Precognizant mobility to untap;

Mata Hari with weapons which means Kali's Fang Striks for 2 agg (3 agg
if blood tempered), Talbot's does 3 damage and prevents 1 ( prevents 2
if blood tempered), and the Ivory Bow strikes for 1 agg.

Fish out key cards with Sybil's tongue.

Tremere can put Ponticulus into play to take the hits from Talbots
chainsaw. Mata Hari can put Ponticulus into play.

Use Arcane Library and Wassersolf Anif to speed up your transfers.

Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 4.61538
------------------------------------------------------------

5x Mata Hari 7 CHI OBF aus for qui 2 votes Ravnos:4
2x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
1x Almiro Suarez 2 aus Tremere:3
1x Nicholas Chang 2 aus !Toreador:3
1x Piotr Andreikov 2 aus Tzimisce:3
1x Feo Ramos 1 aus Pander:3

Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [23]
2x Blithe Acceptance
3x Blood Tempering
2x Fatuus Mastery
4x Nightmare Curse
6x Precognizant Mobility
4x Sensory Deprivation
2x Sibyl's Tongue

Action Modifier [15]
6x Forgotten Labyrinth
9x Freak Drive

Ally [2]
1x Ambrosius, The Ferryman (Wraith)
1x Ponticulus

Equipment [7]
1x Blood Shield
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Flak Jacket
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kali's Fang
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Talbot's Chainsaw

Master [15]
1x Arcane Library
3x Auspex
2x Fame
1x Flames of Insurrection
1x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Luanda
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Vast Wealth
3x Vessel
1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria

Reaction [28]
2x Delaying Tactics
9x Eyes of Argus
4x My Enemy's Enemy
3x On the Qui Vive
3x Precognition
7x Telepathic Misdirection

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 16:31:36 2010]

Juggernaut1981

12/3/2010 5:16:00 AM

On Dec 3, 7:42 am, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2 Dez., 21:32, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 2, 3:17 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
> > > damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
> > > build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
> > > can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
> > > Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?
>
> > I've got something brewing in my head, but haven't had time to put it
> > to paper yet.
>
> > - D.J.
>
> Please post it when you have it! I am looking forward to read it.
>
> Cheers!

From another thread... Apparently Talbot's Chainsaw isn't a Melee
Weapon... just 'a weapon'. So we can't Blood Tempering it, it's not a
valid target.

Haze

12/3/2010 6:09:00 AM

On Dec 2, 11:15 pm, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 7:42 am, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2 Dez., 21:32, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 2, 3:17 pm, Martin Tibor Major <major.martin.ti...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On 2 Dez., 21:07, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > First thanks for your comment. I don't need that extra point of
> > > > damage. I was looking for the extra points of prevent. Also I want to
> > > > build it with Mata Hari and with 60-75 cards. So I am sorry, but I
> > > > can't accept your deck offer, though it's cute otherwise.
> > > > Any others? Maybe something similar to what I am looking for?
>
> > > I've got something brewing in my head, but haven't had time to put it
> > > to paper yet.
>
> > > - D.J.
>
> > Please post it when you have it! I am looking forward to read it.
>
> > Cheers!
>
> From another thread... Apparently Talbot's Chainsaw isn't a Melee
> Weapon... just 'a weapon'. So we can't Blood Tempering it, it's not a
> valid target.

"Put this card on an equipment. This melee weapon inflicts an
additional damage each strike. When this equipment prevents damage in
combat, it can prevent an additional point. An equipment can have only
one Blood Tempering."

Any equipment is a valid target. We don't need to correct him anymore.

Juggernaut1981

12/3/2010 6:29:00 AM

Couldn't resist making one.
Mata Hari + Alexis Sorokin...
Optional Sideboard cards: Cloak the Gathering, Sacrificial Lamb

Deck Name : Mata Chainsaw
Author : Juggernaut1981
Description : Part Ravnos Bleeder, Part Combat Smackdown with a little
bit of block-defence. There are other cards I'd possibly consider,
but the card limit of 60-75 made me not toolbox it as much as I had
thought.

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.08333
------------------------------------------------------------

3x Alexis Sorokin 8 CEL CHI OBF PRO for Ravnos:4
3x Mata Hari 7 CHI OBF aus for qui 2 votes Ravnos:4
3x Paul Forrest, Fals 5 chi for pre Ravnos:4
1x Vassily Taltos 6 aus cel chi dom for obf Ravnos:4
1x Brian Thompson 4 ani chi for Ravnos:4
1x Marion French 3 ani chi Ravnos:4

Library [70 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [17]
3x Blood Tempering
6x Deep Song
4x Edged Illusion
2x Mass Reality
2x Psychic Veil

Action Modifier [8]
8x Freak Drive

Action/Reaction [6]
6x Draba

Combat [16]
5x Apparition
6x Carrion Crows
5x Weighted Walking Stick

Equipment [5]
1x Blood Shield
1x Karavalanisha Vrana
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Palatial Estate
1x Talbot's Chainsaw

Master [12]
4x Ashur Tablets
1x Fame
2x Path of Paradox, The
2x Ravnos Cache
2x Tension in the Ranks
1x Week of Nightmares

Reaction [6]
6x Cats' Guidance

Lemminkäinen

12/3/2010 9:25:00 AM

On 3 joulu, 08:28, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Couldn't resist making one.
> Mata Hari + Alexis Sorokin...
> Optional Sideboard cards: Cloak the Gathering, Sacrificial Lamb
>
> Deck Name : Mata Chainsaw
> Author : Juggernaut1981
> Description : Part Ravnos Bleeder, Part Combat Smackdown with a little
> bit of block-defence. There are other cards I'd possibly consider,
> but the card limit of 60-75 made me not toolbox it as much as I had
> thought.
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.08333
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3x Alexis Sorokin 8 CEL CHI OBF PRO for Ravnos:4
> 3x Mata Hari 7 CHI OBF aus for qui 2 votes Ravnos:4
> 3x Paul Forrest, Fals 5 chi for pre Ravnos:4
> 1x Vassily Taltos 6 aus cel chi dom for obf Ravnos:4
> 1x Brian Thompson 4 ani chi for Ravnos:4
> 1x Marion French 3 ani chi Ravnos:4
>
> Library [70 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [17]
> 3x Blood Tempering
> 6x Deep Song
> 4x Edged Illusion
> 2x Mass Reality
> 2x Psychic Veil
>
> Action Modifier [8]
> 8x Freak Drive
>
> Action/Reaction [6]
> 6x Draba
>
> Combat [16]
> 5x Apparition
> 6x Carrion Crows
> 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>
> Equipment [5]
> 1x Blood Shield
> 1x Karavalanisha Vrana
> 1x Kevlar Vest
> 1x Palatial Estate
> 1x Talbot's Chainsaw
>
> Master [12]
> 4x Ashur Tablets
> 1x Fame
> 2x Path of Paradox, The
> 2x Ravnos Cache
> 2x Tension in the Ranks
> 1x Week of Nightmares
>
> Reaction [6]
> 6x Cats' Guidance

I'm probably missing something here - you seem to have only two
vampires with (only inferior) animalism and yet you have 18 animalism
cards?

= Matias

rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Deck: Rata-Mata-Hari

Martin Tibor Major

XZealot

Martin Tibor Major

Meej

Martin Tibor Major

suoli

XZealot

Juggernaut1981

Haze

Juggernaut1981

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