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XZealot

12/2/2010 5:14:00 PM

Deck Name : It's My Precognitive!
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :
This is a deck that uses Precognition to prevent the damage from Burst
of Sunlight

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 5.91667
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3x Anastasz di Zagreb 8 AUS THA ani cel dom justicar Tremere:3
1x Elena Mendoza Vasq 6 AUS THA dom obt !Tremere:3
1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
1x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
1x Yasmin the Black 6 AUS THA dom pre !Tremere:3
1x Aisling Sturbridge 5 AUS THA dom Tremere:2
1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3

Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [18]
12x Govern the Unaligned
4x Magic of the Smith
2x Possession

Action Modifier [4]
4x Conditioning

Combat [15]
3x Amaranth
12x Burst of Sunlight

Equipment [10]
1x Ivory Bow
6x Kevlar Vest
2x Sargon Fragment, The
1x Seal of Veddartha

Master [13]
1x Arcane Library
4x Dominate
5x Vampiric Disease
2x Vast Wealth
1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria

Reaction [29]
9x Eagle's Sight
11x Eyes of Argus
9x Precognition

Retainer [1]
1x Charnas the Imp

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 11:14:20 2010]

26 Answers

John Flournoy

12/2/2010 5:44:00 PM

On Dec 2, 11:14 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> Deck Name : It's My Precognitive!
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
> This is a deck that uses Precognition to prevent the damage from Burst
> of Sunlight

The main problem I see with this is that if you're blocking a 0-
stealth action - or get blocked, you can't use the precognitions, so
your combat becomes 'hands for one' - unless you've managed to get one
of the Kevlar Vests.

So yeah, six Vests with two Vast Wealths and four Magic's looks like a
good backup plan there. I might even be tempted to switch to five
Magics and five Vests, just to insure that I can take an extra-stealth
action to get the Vest that much more often - but that's probably
because I play in an intercept-heavy metagame.

And no Rotschreck? Sure, it doesn't stack with Amaranth, but I think
it'd be pretty vital against decks that are packing a lot of
prevention.

-John Flournoy

XZealot

12/2/2010 6:46:00 PM

> And no Rotschreck? Sure, it doesn't stack with Amaranth, but I think
> it'd be pretty vital against decks that are packing a lot of
> prevention.

I think that 2 need to go in the deck at least.

brandonsantacruz

12/2/2010 7:11:00 PM

On Dec 2, 9:14 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> Deck Name : It's My Precognitive!
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
> This is a deck that uses Precognition to prevent the damage from Burst
> of Sunlight
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 5.91667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3x Anastasz di Zagreb 8 AUS THA ani cel dom justicar Tremere:3
> 1x Elena Mendoza Vasq 6 AUS THA dom obt !Tremere:3
> 1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
> 1x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
> 1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
> 1x Yasmin the Black 6 AUS THA dom pre !Tremere:3
> 1x Aisling Sturbridge 5 AUS THA dom Tremere:2
> 1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
> 1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
> 1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [18]
> 12x Govern the Unaligned
> 4x Magic of the Smith
> 2x Possession
>
> Action Modifier [4]
> 4x Conditioning
>
> Combat [15]
> 3x Amaranth
> 12x Burst of Sunlight
>
> Equipment [10]
> 1x Ivory Bow
> 6x Kevlar Vest
> 2x Sargon Fragment, The
> 1x Seal of Veddartha
>
> Master [13]
> 1x Arcane Library
> 4x Dominate
> 5x Vampiric Disease
> 2x Vast Wealth
> 1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
>
> Reaction [29]
> 9x Eagle's Sight
> 11x Eyes of Argus
> 9x Precognition
>
> Retainer [1]
> 1x Charnas the Imp
>
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 11:14:20 2010]

I think that some of these decks are a kind of cryptic intelligence
test. Did others notice the glaring oversight of having 11 Eyes of
Argus rather than different wakes? Why are there Vampiric Diseases
there(to reduce people to zero blood so that you can burn people)
rather than just some Graverobbings? I could go on...

Brandon

XZealot

12/2/2010 7:28:00 PM

On Dec 2, 1:10 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 2, 9:14 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Deck Name : It's My Precognitive!
> > Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> > Description :
> > This is a deck that uses Precognition to prevent the damage from Burst
> > of Sunlight
>
> > Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 5.91667
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > 3x Anastasz di Zagreb 8 AUS THA ani cel dom justicar Tremere:3
> > 1x Elena Mendoza Vasq 6 AUS THA dom obt !Tremere:3
> > 1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
> > 1x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
> > 1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
> > 1x Yasmin the Black 6 AUS THA dom pre !Tremere:3
> > 1x Aisling Sturbridge 5 AUS THA dom Tremere:2
> > 1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
> > 1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
> > 1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
>
> > Library [90 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Action [18]
> > 12x Govern the Unaligned
> > 4x Magic of the Smith
> > 2x Possession
>
> > Action Modifier [4]
> > 4x Conditioning
>
> > Combat [15]
> > 3x Amaranth
> > 12x Burst of Sunlight
>
> > Equipment [10]
> > 1x Ivory Bow
> > 6x Kevlar Vest
> > 2x Sargon Fragment, The
> > 1x Seal of Veddartha
>
> > Master [13]
> > 1x Arcane Library
> > 4x Dominate
> > 5x Vampiric Disease
> > 2x Vast Wealth
> > 1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
>
> > Reaction [29]
> > 9x Eagle's Sight
> > 11x Eyes of Argus
> > 9x Precognition
>
> > Retainer [1]
> > 1x Charnas the Imp
>
> > Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 11:14:20 2010]
>
> I think that some of these decks are a kind of cryptic intelligence
> test. Did others notice the glaring oversight of having 11 Eyes of
> Argus rather than different wakes?

You will have to illuminate me on why I would pick weaker untap cards?

> Why are there Vampiric Diseases
> there(to reduce people to zero blood so that you can burn people)
> rather than just some Graverobbings?

Vampiric Disease is a card that forces your prey to eventually take
undirected actions by running out of blood and having to hunt. Any
wall deck should pack it.

Meej

12/2/2010 7:55:00 PM

On Dec 2, 2:28 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 1:10 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:

> > I think that some of these decks are a kind of cryptic intelligence
> > test. Did others notice the glaring oversight of having 11 Eyes of
> > Argus rather than different wakes?
>
> You will have to illuminate me on why I would pick weaker untap cards?

The only reason I can think of is to be able to, sometimes, use the
Eyes for intercept and something else to untap.

- D.J.

brandonsantacruz

12/2/2010 8:22:00 PM

On Dec 2, 11:55 am, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2:28 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 2, 1:10 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I think that some of these decks are a kind of cryptic intelligence
> > > test. Did others notice the glaring oversight of having 11 Eyes of
> > > Argus rather than different wakes?
>
> > You will have to illuminate me on why I would pick weaker untap cards?
>
> The only reason I can think of is to be able to, sometimes, use the
> Eyes for intercept and something else to untap.
>
> - D.J.

On the Qui Vive/Forced Awakening + Eyes is a wake and 2 intercept
against a D action directed at you with two cards, where that would
take three cards if you are only playing 9+ of Eyes, Eagle's Sight and
Precognition. Eyes at inferior is really good, but it shouldn't be all
that you play.

As to the awesomeness of Vampiric Disease, why don't you just Pentex
the sucker? At least then your prey would be on more of a leash before
he takes the rest of the table. If they have Vampiric Disease counters
and call a KRC, do you really want to have to block that? How about
Seeds of Corruption? These decks bring up a lot of questions, most
obviously "why?"

Brandon

brandonsantacruz

12/3/2010 12:15:00 AM

> As to the awesomeness of Vampiric Disease, why don't you just Pentex
> the sucker? At least then your prey would be on more of a leash before
> he takes the rest of the table. If they have Vampiric Disease counters
> and call a KRC, do you really want to have to block that? How about
> Seeds of Corruption? These decks bring up a lot of questions, most
> obviously "why?"

Let me re-phrase that because I can understand the motivation to try
new decks. Why build it like that? There are many tweaks that can be
done to make the deck more efficient. Before just hitting F8 on ARDB
and calling it good, take a hard look at the deck to see if some
variety or some alternative might be better is all I'm saying.

Brandon

XZealot

12/3/2010 1:38:00 AM

On Dec 2, 6:15 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > As to the awesomeness of Vampiric Disease, why don't you just Pentex
> > the sucker?

Pentex is good, but it costs pool and disappears quickly
Vampiric Disease is fantastick in a blocking deck that uses alot of
wakes as you can take your infected blocker and spread the wealth
around.

> At least then your prey would be on more of a leash before
> > he takes the rest of the table.

he is going to run out of blood long, long before then.

> If they have Vampiric Disease counters
> > and call a KRC, do you really want to have to block that?

Yes, I want to catch the disease then use my diseased minion to block
more of his minions to spread it around

> How about
> > Seeds of Corruption? These decks bring up a lot of questions, most
> > obviously "why?"

Because it is good.

> Let me re-phrase that because I can understand the motivation to try
> new decks. Why build it like that?

Because it is better than similar decks.

>There are many tweaks that can be
> done to make the deck more efficient. Before just hitting F8 on ARDB
> and calling it good, take a hard look at the deck to see if some
> variety or some alternative might be better is all I'm saying.

Do I get a pat on the head now?

Brum

12/3/2010 2:47:00 AM

On Dec 2, 5:14 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> Deck Name : It's My Precognitive!
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
> This is a deck that uses Precognition to prevent the damage from Burst
> of Sunlight
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 5.91667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3x Anastasz di Zagreb 8 AUS THA ani cel dom justicar Tremere:3
> 1x Elena Mendoza Vasq 6 AUS THA dom obt !Tremere:3
> 1x Eugenio Estevez 6 AUS THA dom for Tremere:3
> 1x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
> 1x Valois Sang, The W 6 AUS DOM nec tha Tremere:3
> 1x Yasmin the Black 6 AUS THA dom pre !Tremere:3
> 1x Aisling Sturbridge 5 AUS THA dom Tremere:2
> 1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
> 1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
> 1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [18]
> 12x Govern the Unaligned
> 4x Magic of the Smith
> 2x Possession
>
> Action Modifier [4]
> 4x Conditioning
>
> Combat [15]
> 3x Amaranth
> 12x Burst of Sunlight
>
> Equipment [10]
> 1x Ivory Bow
> 6x Kevlar Vest
> 2x Sargon Fragment, The
> 1x Seal of Veddartha
>
> Master [13]
> 1x Arcane Library
> 4x Dominate
> 5x Vampiric Disease
> 2x Vast Wealth
> 1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
>
> Reaction [29]
> 9x Eagle's Sight
> 11x Eyes of Argus
> 9x Precognition
>
> Retainer [1]
> 1x Charnas the Imp
>
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 02 11:14:20 2010]

I must say that this inspired me to a similar deck with a completely
different clan.
Fun idea, Mr. Norman

Tiago

brandonsantacruz

12/3/2010 6:09:00 AM

> >There are many tweaks that can be
> > done to make the deck more efficient. Before just hitting F8 on ARDB
> > and calling it good, take a hard look at the deck to see if some
> > variety or some alternative might be better is all I'm saying.
>
> Do I get a pat on the head now?

Have you taken time to think about what you've done?

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Deck :It's My Precognitive!

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