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[deck] Crocodile Princess

John McGlynn

12/1/2010 6:18:00 PM

Creating decks under 90 cards is new to me, so I am posting this deck
for comments and suggestions.

Deck Name : Crocodile Princess
Author : John McGlynn
Description :
Crocodile's Tongue and Banishment working together with Gabrielle di
Righetti's special ability. Whip up the Signet of King Saul in case
of a big blocker to keep Crocodile's Tongue playable.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Gabrielle di Righe 10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot justicar
Tremere:5
3x Dr. John Dee 9 ANI AUS DOM THA chi prince
Tremere:4
3x Troius 8 AUS DOM THA cel prince
Tremere:4
2x Mistress Fanchon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC inner circle
Tremere:4


Library [69 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [7]
3x Govern the Unaligned
2x Magic of the Smith
1x Pulse of the Canaille
1x Rutor's Hand

Action Modifier [18]
1x Bonding
6x Crocodile's Tongue
1x Enkil Cog
7x Mirror Walk
3x Seduction

Combat [7]
3x Rego Motus
4x Theft of Vitae

Equipment [3]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Helicopter
1x Signet of King Saul, The

Master [13]
1x Arcane Library
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Giant's Blood
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Secure Haven
1x Temptation of Greater Power
4x Villein
3x Zillah's Valley

Political Action [9]
2x Banishment
3x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift

Reaction [12]
6x Deflection
3x Obedience
3x Second Tradition: Domain


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Dec 01 11:10:49 2010]
5 Answers

brandonsantacruz

12/1/2010 6:39:00 PM

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On Dec 1, 10:18 am, John McGlynn <john.mcgl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Creating decks under 90 cards is new to me, so I am posting this deck
> for comments and suggestions.
>
> Deck Name : Crocodile Princess
> Author : John McGlynn
> Description :
> Crocodile's Tongue and Banishment working together with Gabrielle di
> Righetti's special ability.  Whip up the Signet of King Saul in case
> of a big blocker to keep Crocodile's Tongue playable.

Nice idea. I'm always looking for more stuff to do with this crypt.

> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 3x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 3x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4

Right off the bat, I see that six of these vampires have obfuscate and
all have DOM. There's a good govern chain. set up. Six Justicars/IC
members tells me that Alastor is a good option.

Library [69 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------
Action [7]
3x Govern the Unaligned
2x Magic of the Smith
1x Pulse of the Canaille
1x Rutor's Hand

Doesn't seem like enough Govern. Maybe 1x Pulse could be another
govern? Having lots of Governs means not needing vote lock right away
to be able to afford more vampires(i.e. through Parity Shift).

Action Modifier [18]
1x Bonding
6x Crocodile's Tongue
1x Enkil Cog
7x Mirror Walk
3x Seduction

I'd throw in a couple Forgotten Labyrinth to get past 2nd tradition
and some conditioning/foreshadowing destruction. Six Croc's Tongue
might be a bit much if the deck stays this small.

Combat [7]
3x Rego Motus
4x Theft of Vitae

Solid, if you play them.

Equipment [3]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Helicopter
1x Signet of King Saul, The

Good

Master [13]
1x Arcane Library
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Giant's Blood
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Secure Haven
1x Temptation of Greater Power
4x Villein
3x Zillah's Valley

Based on the expensive master cards, I'd guess that you are going the
'spend pool in order to Parity Shift' strategy. I might make the
Secure Haven into a Golconda to either cash in your pummled fatty or
put another player in a bad position.

Political Action [9]
2x Banishment
3x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift

I'd put in an Alastor.

Reaction [12]
6x Deflection
3x Obedience
3x Second Tradition: Domain

On the Qui Vive cycles easily. I think you could afford to have a
couple Murmur of the False Wills.

Brandon

XZealot

12/1/2010 6:54:00 PM

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On Dec 1, 12:18 pm, John McGlynn <john.mcgl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Creating decks under 90 cards is new to me, so I am posting this deck
> for comments and suggestions.
>
> Deck Name : Crocodile Princess
> Author : John McGlynn
> Description :
> Crocodile's Tongue and Banishment working together with Gabrielle di
> Righetti's special ability.  Whip up the Signet of King Saul in case
> of a big blocker to keep Crocodile's Tongue playable.
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 3x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 3x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4

Your deck is going to be too slow.

I would avoid Mistress Fanchon, Dr. John Dee is all the 4 votes that
you need.

I would replace her with some treweenie caitiff: Schuyler and
Johnathan Wrede. They can call damaging votes while relying on your
large minion's titles.

> Library [69 cards]

Too skinny for my taste

> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [7]
>   3x Govern the Unaligned
>   2x Magic of the Smith
>   1x Pulse of the Canaille
>   1x Rutor's Hand

Add 9 Governs and 2 more Rutor's, which will bring your action total
to 19.

Ponticulus is solid as well,


> Action Modifier [18]
>   1x Bonding
>   6x Crocodile's Tongue
>   1x Enkil Cog
>   7x Mirror Walk
>   3x Seduction

I would consider some Change of Targets as well.

> Combat [7]
>   3x Rego Motus
>   4x Theft of Vitae

Change all of these to Wind Dance

> Equipment [3]
>   1x Heart of Nizchetus
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Signet of King Saul, The

Ivory Bow?

> Master [13]
>   1x Arcane Library
>   1x Creepshow Casino
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   1x Monastery of Shadows
>   1x Secure Haven
>   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>   4x Villein
>   3x Zillah's Valley
>
> Political Action [9]
>   2x Banishment
>   3x Kine Resources Contested
>   4x Parity Shift

I would bump up KRC's to 5-6

> Reaction [12]
>   6x Deflection
>   3x Obedience
>   3x Second Tradition: Domain

Too light for me, but it may work for you.

Juggernaut1981

12/1/2010 9:08:00 PM

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> Deck Name : Crocodile Princess
> Author : John McGlynn
> Description :
> Crocodile's Tongue and Banishment working together with Gabrielle di
> Righetti's special ability.  Whip up the Signet of King Saul in case
> of a big blocker to keep Crocodile's Tongue playable.

So plan is: Suck blood off prey vamps, then Banish them? With the
masters of the Magical Mojo we can so some serious stuff like that.
Just need to focus on Banishing the Bloodless people, and getting your
prey's more valuable minions down to minimal blood.

>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 3x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 3x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4

Maybe replace Old Lady Tremere (Mistress Fanchon) with:
Cesewayo 10 AUS CEL DOM POT THA ani Magaji
Konrad Fleischer 9 ANI AUS DOM FOR tha
OR
Claus Wegener 5 DOM aus for tha
Zane 5 THA aus dom Primogen (hey, he has 1 vote & [dom]... in this
deck it's probably worth it)

Both come with AUS DOM and some level of tha. Plus they both have
some level of Animalism which you may be able to graft in as a side-
discipline. Cesewayo comes with votes, and a handy little side-text
for Intercept. A little bit cheaper, but that 1 or 2 pool difference
could be huge.

>
> Library [69 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [7]
>   3x Govern the Unaligned
>   2x Magic of the Smith
>   1x Pulse of the Canaille
>   1x Rutor's Hand

You can replace Magic of the Smith with Alastors... OR... just get
more Rutor's Hands to cover the Magics & the Helicopter down below. 4
blood for the Hand vs 3 pool for a Chopper (which NEEDS a successful
action)... I'd take the Hand.

>
> Action Modifier [18]
>   1x Bonding
>   6x Crocodile's Tongue
>   1x Enkil Cog
>   7x Mirror Walk
>   3x Seduction

I'd dump the Seductions and just get on with the business of Killing
Blow Bleeds. Forshadowing Destruction would be my recommendation.

>
> Combat [7]
>   3x Rego Motus
>   4x Theft of Vitae

If you're not planning to really fight... I don't know why you don't
have almost only Rego Motus.

>
> Equipment [3]
>   1x Heart of Nizchetus
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Signet of King Saul, The

I understand the Heart of Cheating and the Signet Ring. See notes
above about the Chopper.

>
> Master [13]
>   1x Arcane Library
>   1x Creepshow Casino
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   1x Monastery of Shadows
>   1x Secure Haven
>   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>   4x Villein
>   3x Zillah's Valley

I'd be highly tempted to include a couple of Golcondas. I'd suggest a
Pentex Subversion and a Fame. Placing Fame on your prey's key blocker
while you are tossing around Croc's Tongues will hopefully encourage
them to pick other minions to block.

>
> Political Action [9]
>   2x Banishment
>   3x Kine Resources Contested
>   4x Parity Shift

So, are you going to Banishment or Parity Shift? With this crypt I'd
be looking at Ancient Influence, Political Stranglehold, 4x
Banishment, 2x Masquerade Enforcement, Might of the Inner Circle?

>
> Reaction [12]
>   6x Deflection
>   3x Obedience
>   3x Second Tradition: Domain

2nd Trad requires a block. I'd be looking at including a few more
cards that allowed untap or play as if untapped without requiring a
block. Obedience = good. Deflection = good. 2nd Trad = great but
requires a block and sometimes you just want to wake and flick.

[/0.02c]

Tazar

12/2/2010 11:00:00 AM

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> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 3x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 3x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4

I really miss Zane here.


> Library [69 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [7]
>   3x Govern the Unaligned
>   2x Magic of the Smith
>   1x Pulse of the Canaille
>   1x Rutor's Hand

-1 Pulse of the Canaille
+2 Govern the Unaligned
+1 Rutor's Hand


> Action Modifier [18]
>   1x Bonding
>   6x Crocodile's Tongue
>   1x Enkil Cog
>   7x Mirror Walk
>   3x Seduction

Too many mirror walks. You don't replace them and it hurts a lot.
-2 Mirror walk
+2 Change of target
-1 Crocodile's tongue

> Combat [7]
>   3x Rego Motus
>   4x Theft of Vitae

+2x Wind Dance
-3 Rego Motus

Rego motus only prevent's damage from a strike and for 1 blood. I do
not like them. 2x wind dance should do same good maybe even more.

> Equipment [3]
>   1x Heart of Nizchetus
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Signet of King Saul, The

-1 Helicopter.

> Master [13]
>   1x Arcane Library
>   1x Creepshow Casino
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   1x Monastery of Shadows
>   1x Secure Haven
>   1x Temptation of Greater Power
>   4x Villein
>   3x Zillah's Valley

I really miss Chantry here. It is so awesome card. Either add 1 or
replace Secure Haven.

> Political Action [9]
>   2x Banishment
>   3x Kine Resources Contested
>   4x Parity Shift

+1 banishment (get space cutting off combat or action modifiers)

> Reaction [12]
>   6x Deflection
>   3x Obedience
>   3x Second Tradition: Domain

+2-3 On qui Vive / WWEF

This get's you to 72 cards. Still quite low. Have fun and good luck.



John McGlynn

12/2/2010 9:25:00 PM

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On Dec 1, 11:18 am, John McGlynn <john.mcgl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Creating decks under 90 cards is new to me, so I am posting this deck
> for comments and suggestions.

(snip)

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! I've taken much of it to
heart, especially the "more offense" sentiment, so I dropped the
equipment angle altogether. Still can't get it down to 60 cards
though, but I suppose it can't be helped with the deck concept. Is
this any better?

Deck Name : Crocodile Princess
Author : John McGlynn
Description :
Gabrielle Righetti's special powers Crocodile's Tongue and Banishment,
along with the usual vote and bleed offense.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 10 average: 8.33333
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Gabrielle di Righe 10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot justicar Tremere:
5
3x Dr. John Dee 9 ANI AUS DOM THA chi prince Tremere:
4
3x Troius 8 AUS DOM THA cel prince Tremere:
4
1x Zane 5 THA aus dom primogen Tremere:
5
1x Tarrence Moore 4 aus dom tha Tremere:
5


Library [70 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [10]
7x Govern the Unaligned
3x Rutor's Hand

Action Modifier [20]
2x Change of Target
5x Crocodile's Tongue
7x Mirror Walk
6x Seduction

Combat [7]
7x Wind Dance

Master [15]
1x Arcane Library
1x Chantry
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Secure Haven
1x Temptation of Greater Power
4x Villein
3x Zillah's Valley

Political Action [10]
2x Banishment
4x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift

Reaction [8]
5x Deflection
3x On the Qui Vive