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Deck) Santa Says "No"

Stephanie Iwanciow Haas

11/14/2010 7:49:00 AM

Deck Name : Santa Says "No"
Author : Brandon Haas
Description :
Here's a deck based around Santaleous' ability to cancel master cards,
but taking it to the next level of annoying. DI's, Revelations, un-DI-
able ally steal(thanks to Santa), Parity Shift hosage(Confusion of the
Eye). The 2 skill cards, Reiner and Wider View are there for fun. What
would you do to improve this deck? My meta is usually low combat, so
staying alive and out-witting your prey is worth at least 1 vp.

Brandon


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.41667
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Santaleous 9 AUS CEL DEM OBF Malkavian:5
1x Bloody Mary 8 AUS DEM OBF pre primogen +1 Bleed
1x Lazarus James 8 AUS DEM PRE obf tha +1 Bleed
1x Persephone Tar-Ani 8 AUS DEM OBF cel pot +1 Bleed
1x Reiner Stoschka 7 AUS DEM THA obf Play skill
cards as trifles
1x Hagar Stone 6 AUS DEM obf +1 Hand Size
1x Morel 6 AUS DEM OBF Malkavian:4
1x Apache Jones 5 DEM aus for obf !Malkavian:
4
1x Arthur Denholm 5 AUS DEM obf Malkavian:5


Library [80 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [15]
2x Call, The
1x Conceal
8x Kindred Spirits
1x Pulse of the Canaille
1x Restructure
2x Revelations

Action Modifier [27]
4x Cloak the Gathering
4x Confusion
6x Eyes of Chaos
3x Faceless Night
6x Lost in Crowds
4x Spying Mission

Action Modifier/Combat [1]
1x Deny

Combat [2]
2x No Trace

Master [16]
1x Asylum Hunting Ground
1x Barrens, The
2x Coven, The
2x Direct Intervention
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
2x Information Highway
2x Obfuscate
1x Secure Haven
2x Wider View

Reaction [19]
2x Confusion of the Eye
4x Eyes of Argus
1x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
3x Telepathic Counter
5x Telepathic Misdirection


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Nov 13 23:42:01 2010]
5 Answers

suoli

11/14/2010 2:35:00 PM

0

On 14 marras, 09:48, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Deck Name : Santa Says "No"
> Author : Brandon Haas
> Description :
> Here's a deck based around Santaleous' ability to cancel master cards,
> but taking it to the next level of annoying. DI's, Revelations, un-DI-
> able ally steal(thanks to Santa), Parity Shift hosage(Confusion of the
> Eye). The 2 skill cards, Reiner and Wider View are there for fun. What
> would you do to improve this deck? My meta is usually low combat, so
> staying alive and out-witting your prey is worth at least 1 vp.
>

Santaleous wants an archetype, either Perfectionist or Capitalist, and
Poacher's Hunting Ground for a free +1 bleed.

brandonsantacruz

11/14/2010 5:56:00 PM

0

On Nov 14, 6:35 am, suoli <suoliruse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14 marras, 09:48, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Deck Name : Santa Says "No"
> > Author : Brandon Haas
> > Description :
> > Here's a deck based around Santaleous' ability to cancel master cards,
> > but taking it to the next level of annoying. DI's, Revelations, un-DI-
> > able ally steal(thanks to Santa), Parity Shift hosage(Confusion of the
> > Eye). The 2 skill cards, Reiner and Wider View are there for fun. What
> > would you do to improve this deck? My meta is usually low combat, so
> > staying alive and out-witting your prey is worth at least 1 vp.
>
> Santaleous wants an archetype, either Perfectionist or Capitalist, and

I was not sure about combining Secure Haven with cards that target my
minions(i.e. Life in the City, Blood Doll, Vessel, Giant's Blood, etc)
and I had to do the math to figure out what cards would be worth the
pool and which ones I'd discard. Perfectionist is borderline, Giant's
Blood is definitely worth it. The Coven doesn't target a minion in the
same way, so I'd keep at least 1 of those and maybe swap one out for a
Perfectionist. Good idea.

> Poacher's Hunting Ground for a free +1 bleed.

If only it were so. I looked into it and the Poacher's HG is not
unique, they don't even fuel each other! Another shit card for
anarchs :( I'll put that in a shoebox next to my Improvised Tactics,
Elixir of Distillation, No Confidence, etc.

I realized after making the deck that I didn't include Swallowed by
the Night, which could take the place of the Deny and maybe 1x Cloak.
If the deck was 90 cards, the decision would be easier.

Brandon

suoli

11/14/2010 7:24:00 PM

0

On 14 marras, 19:56, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 14, 6:35 am, suoli <suoliruse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Poacher's Hunting Ground for a free +1 bleed.
>
> If only it were so. I looked into it and the Poacher's HG is not
> unique, they don't even fuel each other! Another shit card for
> anarchs :( I'll put that in a shoebox next to my Improvised Tactics,
> Elixir of Distillation, No Confidence, etc.

Right you are.

> I realized after making the deck that I didn't include Swallowed by
> the Night, which could take the place of the Deny and maybe 1x Cloak.
> If the deck was 90 cards, the decision would be easier.
>
> Brandon

All of your minions have at least obf. I'd just replace all the Cloaks
with Swalloweds. Or make it 1x Cloak, 1x Domain of Evernight, 1x
Swallowed by the Night and 1x Gift of Sleep if you want to play the
stealth diversity angle.

Haze

11/14/2010 7:53:00 PM

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On Nov 14, 1:48 am, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Deck Name : Santa Says "No"
> Author : Brandon Haas
> Description :
> Here's a deck based around Santaleous' ability to cancel master cards,
> but taking it to the next level of annoying. DI's, Revelations, un-DI-
> able ally steal(thanks to Santa), Parity Shift hosage(Confusion of the
> Eye). The 2 skill cards, Reiner and Wider View are there for fun. What
> would you do to improve this deck? My meta is usually low combat, so
> staying alive and out-witting your prey is worth at least 1 vp.
>
> Brandon
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.41667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Santaleous             9  AUS CEL DEM OBF               Malkavian:5
> 1x Bloody Mary            8  AUS DEM OBF pre      primogen +1 Bleed
> 1x Lazarus James          8  AUS DEM PRE obf tha         +1 Bleed
> 1x Persephone Tar-Ani     8  AUS DEM OBF cel pot   +1 Bleed
> 1x Reiner Stoschka        7  AUS DEM THA obf           Play skill
> cards as trifles
> 1x Hagar Stone            6  AUS DEM obf               +1 Hand Size
> 1x Morel                  6  AUS DEM OBF                   Malkavian:4
> 1x Apache Jones           5  DEM aus for obf               !Malkavian:
> 4
> 1x Arthur Denholm         5  AUS DEM obf                   Malkavian:5
>
> Library [80 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [15]
>   2x Call, The
>   1x Conceal
>   8x Kindred Spirits
>   1x Pulse of the Canaille
>   1x Restructure
>   2x Revelations
>
> Action Modifier [27]
>   4x Cloak the Gathering
>   4x Confusion
>   6x Eyes of Chaos
>   3x Faceless Night
>   6x Lost in Crowds
>   4x Spying Mission
>
> Action Modifier/Combat [1]
>   1x Deny
>
> Combat [2]
>   2x No Trace
>
> Master [16]
>   1x Asylum Hunting Ground
>   1x Barrens, The
>   2x Coven, The
>   2x Direct Intervention
>   2x Dreams of the Sphinx
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   2x Information Highway
>   2x Obfuscate
>   1x Secure Haven
>   2x Wider View
>
> Reaction [19]
>   2x Confusion of the Eye
>   4x Eyes of Argus
>   1x My Enemy's Enemy
>   4x On the Qui Vive
>   3x Telepathic Counter
>   5x Telepathic Misdirection
>
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Nov 13 23:42:01 2010]

the only thing you're missing is a way to cancel or burn Events, heh

no Institution Hunting Ground? you have no fear of Archon
Investigation, go for the extra bleed... and you want an early HG for
the extra blood on Santa too. you should make the most of him! for
both benefits, it's easily worth the 2 pool.

the extra copies of Coven and Wider View seem redundant to me. you
don't need either one that desperately...

Entrenching could be useful as a refiller. I'd use one just for fun.

only 2 Confusion of the Eye feels iffy to me. I would never draw into
them when I needed them, until I went up to 4x copies in decks. Also,
since you don't have many titles, it won't be enough to stop KRCs or
Banishments, so maybe a delaying tactics or 2.

Stephanie Iwanciow Haas

11/15/2010 1:16:00 AM

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On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Haze <headlessr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 1:48 am, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Deck Name : Santa Says "No"
> > Author : Brandon Haas
> > Description :
> > Here's a deck based around Santaleous' ability to cancel master cards,
> > but taking it to the next level of annoying. DI's, Revelations, un-DI-
> > able ally steal(thanks to Santa), Parity Shift hosage(Confusion of the
> > Eye). The 2 skill cards, Reiner and Wider View are there for fun. What
> > would you do to improve this deck? My meta is usually low combat, so
> > staying alive and out-witting your prey is worth at least 1 vp.
>
> > Brandon
>
> > Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.41667
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > 4x Santaleous             9  AUS CEL DEM OBF               Malkavian:5
> > 1x Bloody Mary            8  AUS DEM OBF pre      primogen +1 Bleed
> > 1x Lazarus James          8  AUS DEM PRE obf tha         +1 Bleed
> > 1x Persephone Tar-Ani     8  AUS DEM OBF cel pot   +1 Bleed
> > 1x Reiner Stoschka        7  AUS DEM THA obf           Play skill
> > cards as trifles
> > 1x Hagar Stone            6  AUS DEM obf               +1 Hand Size
> > 1x Morel                  6  AUS DEM OBF                   Malkavian:4
> > 1x Apache Jones           5  DEM aus for obf               !Malkavian:
> > 4
> > 1x Arthur Denholm         5  AUS DEM obf                   Malkavian:5
>
> > Library [80 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Action [15]
> >   2x Call, The
> >   1x Conceal
> >   8x Kindred Spirits
> >   1x Pulse of the Canaille
> >   1x Restructure
> >   2x Revelations
>
> > Action Modifier [27]
> >   4x Cloak the Gathering
> >   4x Confusion
> >   6x Eyes of Chaos
> >   3x Faceless Night
> >   6x Lost in Crowds
> >   4x Spying Mission
>
> > Action Modifier/Combat [1]
> >   1x Deny
>
> > Combat [2]
> >   2x No Trace
>
> > Master [16]
> >   1x Asylum Hunting Ground
> >   1x Barrens, The
> >   2x Coven, The
> >   2x Direct Intervention
> >   2x Dreams of the Sphinx
> >   1x Giant's Blood
> >   2x Information Highway
> >   2x Obfuscate
> >   1x Secure Haven
> >   2x Wider View
>
> > Reaction [19]
> >   2x Confusion of the Eye
> >   4x Eyes of Argus
> >   1x My Enemy's Enemy
> >   4x On the Qui Vive
> >   3x Telepathic Counter
> >   5x Telepathic Misdirection
>
> > Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Nov 13 23:42:01 2010]
>
> the only thing you're missing is a way to cancel or burn Events, heh
>
> no Institution Hunting Ground? you have no fear of Archon
> Investigation, go for the extra bleed... and you want an early HG for
> the extra blood on Santa too. you should make the most of him! for
> both benefits, it's easily worth the 2 pool.
>
> the extra copies of Coven and Wider View seem redundant to me. you
> don't need either one that desperately...
>
> Entrenching could be useful as a refiller. I'd use one just for fun.
>
> only 2 Confusion of the Eye feels iffy to me. I would never draw into
> them when I needed them, until I went up to 4x copies in decks. Also,
> since you don't have many titles, it won't be enough to stop KRCs or
> Banishments, so maybe a delaying tactics or 2.

Here's a revised, all-in version of the Santa deck. Cheesy enough for
you? ;)

Deck Name : Santa's little workshop of "No"
Author : Brandon Haas
Description :

A little bit of "no" for any occasion.
-Burn a Gehenna event
-Burn weenies
-Burn a location/equipment card
-Steal an ally
-Cancel a bounce requiring either auspex or dominate
-Vote canceling
-Bleed reduce/bounce

All backed up by un-AIable bleeds of up to 11 and stealth. Use House
of Sorrow to get a lot of use out of Heidelberg, Coven, Dreams,
Admonitions or Barrens. Master count is pretty high, but with card
cycling just set up the hand you want.

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 9 average: 7.41667
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Santaleous 9 AUS CEL DEM OBF
1x Bloody Mary 8 AUS DEM OBF pre primogen +1 bleed
1x Lazarus James 8 AUS DEM PRE obf tha +1 bleed
1x Persephone Tar-Ani 8 AUS DEM OBF cel pot sabbat +1 bleed
1x Marge Khan 7 DEM OBF POT aus for Black hand
1x Hagar Stone 6 AUS DEM obf Black hand
1x Morel 6 AUS DEM OBF
1x Apache Jones 5 DEM aus for obf Sabbat
1x Arthur Denholm 5 AUS DEM obf


Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [15]
1x Black Hand Ritual
2x Call, The
1x Conceal
8x Kindred Spirits
1x Madman's Quill
1x Pulse of the Canaille
1x Restructure

Action Modifier [26]
4x Cloak the Gathering
4x Confusion
6x Eyes of Chaos
3x Faceless Night
6x Lost in Crowds
3x Spying Mission

Action Modifier / Reaction [1]
1x Touch of Clarity

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
1x Deny
1x Hide the Mind
2x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [2]
2x No Trace

Event [1]
1x Scourge of the Enochians

Master [19]
1x Admonitions, The
1x Asylum Hunting Ground
1x Barrens, The
1x Coven, The
2x Direct Intervention
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x House of Sorrow
1x Information Highway
1x Institution Hunting Ground
1x Lilith's Blessing
1x Secure Haven
2x Wider View

Reaction [21]
2x Confusion of the Eye
1x Delaying Tactics
4x Eyes of Argus
1x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
2x Telepathic Counter
5x Telepathic Misdirection
2x Wrong and Crosswise

Retainer [1]
1x Robert Carter


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun Nov 14 17:03:43 2010]