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Peter D Bakija

11/11/2010 2:31:00 PM

rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad FAQ

Contents:
1. What is this newsgroup for?
2. How do I set up an account?
3. Why is the group called rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad?
4. Why can't I post trades or sales here?
5. Where can I post trades or sales?
6. How do I behave as a model newsgroup citizen?
7. What does this abbreviation mean?
8. What does this term mean?
9. What are clan newsletters?

1. What is this newsgroup for?
rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad is an unmoderated usenet discussion
group dedicated to the discussion of the collectible card game
Vampire: The Eternal Struggle (VTES). rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
can be read and posted on through any usenet capable newsreader
program or on the web at http://groups.....

On either version of Google Groups, search for rec.games.trading-
cards.jyhad and you'll link to the VTES newsgroup. Be sure to realize,
however, that when you are using Google Groups, you are using a web
interface for a Usenet newsgroup, and that not everyone is using
Goggle Groups (most folks use a newsreader), and if you are having
trouble on Goggle Groups and ask for help on the newsgroup, make sure
to point out that you are using Google Groups.

Appropriate topics of discussion include, but are not limited to,
strategy, deck design, game design, game balance, tournament
announcements and reports, and pretty much anything else related to
the playing of VTES. By virtue of the group's original charter, posts
about trades, auctions and sales of VTES cards are not allowed in this
group.

The group was created in 1994. The original charter of the group is as
follows:

Discussion of the trading card game "Jyhad". Topics will include the
rules of the game, strategies for playing the game and information
about the various cards and expansions sets for the game, as well as
other topics deemed to be specific to Jyhad. Postings regarding sales,
auctions, or trades of Jyhad cards are not permitted in this group, as
they belong in the companion newsgroup r.g.?.marketplace.

The original charter is archived at:
http://groups..../groups?selm=rec.games.deckmaster-reorg-RESULT%40uunet.uu.net

2. How do I set up an account?

Instructions for using google groups or configuring outlook express to
read the newsgroup can be found at:
http://www.thela.../how_to_access_new...

If your isp does not carry rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad, and you do
not like using google groups, visit http://news.individual.net/reg...
for other ideas for access to the newsgroup.

3. Why is the group called rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad?

When VTES was originally released, it was called Jyhad. Its name was
changed to Vampire: The Eternal Struggle not too long after. No one
has ever gone through the effort to start a new group called
rec.games.trading-cards.vtes.

4. Why can't I post trades or sales here?

The original charter of the group prohibited it, presumably to avoid
the group being flooded with trade/sales/auction posts, making the
actual discussion of the game difficult. There are many other avenues
for trading/selling/buying cards online.

5. Where can I post trades or sales?
Originally, a specific newsgroup for this was created
(rec.games.trading-cards.marketplace.misc). Currently, that newsgroup
is mostly (although not completely) full of sales posts and e-bay
auctions, with very little actual trading (although if you look a lot,
you might find some VTES trading occasionally). Most trading seems to
be done on specific trade websites:

- http://trade.mahasamatman...

or on the yahoogroups VTES trading listserve
( VTES_Trading@yahoogroups.com ).

If you are looking to buy boxes or singles, some good places to check
include:

-The Lasombra (Jeff Thompson) sells boxes at competetive prices as
well as singles at http://www.thela....

-Potomac distribution sells boxes and packs, but not singles at
http://www.potom....

-In Europe, Walch and Nusser seems to be the place to go:
http://www.vtes.d...

-e-bay is always a good place to look for good deals, as well as sell
your cards.

6. How do I behave as a model newsgroup citizen?
rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad is an unmoderated newsgroup. This means
that there is no one who specifically exists to make sure the place
runs smoothly, and that everyone needs to police themselves and their
neighbors. To this end, here are a few pointers on how to get along
with everyone nicely on the newsgroup:

A. Lurk before you post. If you are new, watch the newsgroup for a few
days/weeks before you jump in with lengthy discussions/arguments.
You'll get a sense of how folks behave and interact, which is handy.

B. Stay on topic. We are all here to discuss the game VTES. There is a
lot of latitude as to what this means, but if you are posting messages
that aren't even remotely related to VTES, you are probably not doing
what you should be. The occasional completely off topic personal
announcement (births, deaths, marriages, whatever) comes up, as we are
a community, and these are usually greeted with good humor or
appropriate response, but you should probably shy away from starting
lengthy discussions about your favorite video game, movie, or other
interests. The occasional off topic post is generally tolerated by the
group as a whole, but if someone regularly goes way off topic they
will usually be called on it and asked to stop.

C. Quote relevant text that you are responding to. If you are writing
a follow up to someone's post, quote the important parts that you are
responding to--either sentences or paragraphs. Many newsreaders will
quote and indicate quoted text for you, but if you can't figure out
how to do this, you can, at the very least, use " " marks at the
beginning and ending of the quoted text, with appropriate space
between quoted text and response text (willy-nilly use of >> marks may
cause havok when viewed with a web browser--another reason to get a
nice newsreader program). Standard procedure is to place a quote in
your message, and then follow it with your response. No one likes it
when people "top post" (quote an entire message, and then just put
your response at the top of the post) or "me too post" (quote an
entire message, and just put at the top or the bottom "I agree!" or
something). If you are going to put the effort into responding, make
it worth everyone's time to read it.

D. Try and use appropriate punctuation and spelling. You are here
trying to communicate with other people, and maybe even defend an
argument. While no one will generally attack you for the occasional
typo/misspelling, run-on sentence, or dangling participle, people like
to see an attempt to use capital letters, correct spelling, and
punctuation. Generally, if you write without these things, your
messages will be ignored.

E. Title your posts correctly. People like to be able to sift through
posts by title, so make sure your title is appropriate. It is also
nice, if you are starting a thread of a type that comes up a lot, you
put a tag at the start of your title in parenthesis. Some of the
common tags are (DECK) for a deck post, (REPORT) for a tournament
report, (TOURNAMENT) for a tournament announcement. Avoid using
brackets "[ ]" instead of parenthesis "( )", as brackets tend to make
things dissapear in the subject lines in google.groups. For reasons we
don't understand.

7. What does this abbreviation mean?
rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad, being a discussion forum with a
specific focus (VTES), tends to refer to the same things over and over
again, and to this end, there are many common acronyms or
abbreviations that you might come across. Some of the more common ones
include:

Clans: Most clan names are shortened to some abbreviation (Bru =
Brujah; Tre = Tremere, etc.), but there aren't really hard fast rules.

Anti-Clans: Often, antitribu clans will be abbreviated with an "!" at
the start of the name (!Bru or !Brujah for the Brujah Antitribu). It
is some math shorthand that someone decided was a good way to indicate
antitribu clans.

Disciplines: Disciplines are abbreviated as the first three letters of
that discipline, either in all lower case (for the inferior version)
or all capital (for the superior), i.e. POT is superior Potence where
pot is inferior Potence.

CL: Card Limit. Often preceded with a number (4CL). VTES does not use
a per card card limit (i.e. your deck can consist of, like, 90 of the
same card if you really want), and thankfully, discussions of card
limits seem to have finally vanished for the most part. But if one
comes up, it is good to know this is what CL means.

S:CE: Strike: Combat Ends.

IG: Immortal Grapple

PTO: Protect Thine Own

ECU: Eldest Command Undeath

ADF: Auto Da Fe

SC: Succubus Club

KR: Kindred Restructure

DU: Dramatic Upheaval

DotB: Drawing out the Beast

PF: Pulled Fangs

TB: Thoughts Betrayed

NRA: No Repeat Actions

LSJ: L. Scott Johnson, the official Net Rep/Rules guy

VEKN: Vampire Elder Kindred Network, the official player's
organization.

A great deal more of newsgroup specific terminology can be found at:
http://www.thela.../lists/abbreviations.txt

and
http://www.thela.../terminology.htm

8. What does this term mean?
The VTES newsgroup tends to have a lot of weird lingo/shorthand, often
refering to different deck styles, thrown around on a regular basis by
people who have been around for a while. Some of the more common
examples:

AAA: Toreador deck revolving around Alexandra, Aneke, and Anson.

Clown Car: A Ravnos breeding deck that uses Ravanos Carnival to make
cheap Embraces or Tumnimos. Usually kills you with Week of Nightmares.

Malk94: 1994 era technology Malkavian Stealth and Bleed deck.

Mill: A deck that plans on destroying its prey's library with cards
like Slaughterhouse and Feline Saboteur. From "Millstone", a library
killing card in Magic: The Gathering.

Multi-Rush: A combat deck that generally uses 1 main minion and has
them take multiple Rush actions per turn by untapping with Freak Drive
or Forced March (e.g. "Fatima Multi Rush")

Tier1: Consistienly winning deck; a "best" deck type.

Turbo: A deck that uses the Soul Gem and burning your own vampire to
play get another vampire in play, taking many actions in a row with a
chain of burned/Soul Gemed vampires (e.g. "Turbo Baron")

Twister: A deck that depletes its own library quickly, often through
the use of Burn Option cards, to set up a recursive card situation,
using the same small number of cards over and over (e.g. a "Henry
Twister" uses Henry Taylor's special ability to play the same Earth
Meld over and over after artificially depleteing its library.)

9. What are clan newsletters?
The VEKN organizes official Clan Specific strategy newsletters that
are posted on a semi-monthly basis on this newsgroup. They are also
archived on the web at http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/newsletter/nl...
and http://www.TheLasombra.com/... as well as many other web
locations, as well as being available as a mail based list serve.

This FAQ is created and maintained by Peter D Bakija
( pdb6@lightlink.com) with support from Jeff Thompson. Last updated
09.08.09.

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