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Vinícius BH

11/10/2010 5:41:00 PM

Hello,

I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.

Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.

Vinícius.

Spirit Marionette
Type: Action
Requires: Obeah/Dominate
[dom] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed.
[obe] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed and tap a ready minion controlled by your
prey (even if the target of the bleed is changed).
[OBE] +1 stealth action. (D) Take control of a ready untapped minion
until the end of the next action. That minion must bleed your prey
unless he or she must hunt.

Abactor
Type: Action
+1 stealth hunt action.
Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to
call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as
if he or she had committed diablerie).

Heidelberg Castle, Germany
Type: Master
Cost: 2 pool
Master: unique location.
Tap to move blood, equipment cards and/or retainers between any two
ready vampires you control. (You choose the amount of blood you move
and which cards you transfer.) Cannot be used during an action.
23 Answers

LSJ

11/10/2010 6:17:00 PM

0

On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
> Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
> is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.

Correct.

>
> Vinícius.
>
> Spirit Marionette
> Type: Action
> Requires: Obeah/Dominate
> [dom] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed.
> [obe] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed and tap a ready minion controlled by your
> prey (even if the target of the bleed is changed).
> [OBE] +1 stealth action. (D) Take control of a ready untapped minion
> until the end of the next action. That minion must bleed your prey
> unless he or she must hunt.
>
> Abactor
> Type: Action
> +1 stealth hunt action.
> Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to
> call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as
> if he or she had committed diablerie).
>
> Heidelberg Castle, Germany
> Type: Master
> Cost: 2 pool
> Master: unique location.
> Tap to move blood, equipment cards and/or retainers between any two
> ready vampires you control. (You choose the amount of blood you move
> and which cards you transfer.) Cannot be used during an action.

Meej

11/10/2010 6:46:00 PM

0

On Nov 10, 1:17 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
> > Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
> > is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.
>
> Correct.

Huh. Even though Abactor reads "after successful resolution" and
"independent of the action," it's still during the action?

- D.J.

> > Abactor
> > Type: Action
> > +1 stealth hunt action.
> > Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to
> > call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as
> > if he or she had committed diablerie).

floppyzedolfin

11/10/2010 6:49:00 PM

0

On 10 nov, 19:45, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 1:17 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
> > > Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
> > > is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.
>
> > Correct.
>
> Huh.  Even though Abactor reads "after successful resolution" and
> "independent of the action," it's still during the action?
>
> - D.J.
Freak Drive can be played after the refenrendum (
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/41be74...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/41be74...
), therefore the referendum happens before the end of the action.

LSJ

11/10/2010 6:57:00 PM

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On Nov 10, 1:45 pm, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 1:17 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > > Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
> > > Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
> > > is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.
>
> > Correct.
>
> Huh.  Even though Abactor reads "after successful resolution" and
> "independent of the action," it's still during the action?

Yes, "just as if he or she had committed diablerie".

>
> - D.J.
>
> > > Abactor
> > > Type: Action
> > > +1 stealth hunt action.
> > > Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to
> > > call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as
> > > if he or she had committed diablerie).

XZealot

11/10/2010 7:37:00 PM

0

On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.

Now that is just mean...

Juggernaut1981

11/10/2010 7:59:00 PM

0

On Nov 11, 6:37 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> Now that is just mean...

But oh so very funny...

Brum

11/11/2010 2:31:00 AM

0

On Nov 10, 7:59 pm, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 6:37 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > Now that is just mean...
>
> But oh so very funny...

And exactly why I bought 5 Mind Rapes to add to the ones I already
had...

DOM FOR OBF PRE ftw

Vinícius BH

11/11/2010 3:03:00 AM

0

On 10 nov, 16:56, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 1:45 pm, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 1:17 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 12:41 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > > > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > > > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > > > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > > > Is the control of the stolen vampire returned to his original
> > > > Methuselah after or before the blood hunt? I guess that the blood hunt
> > > > is called during the action, so I can choose his votes.
>
> > > Correct.
>
> > Huh.  Even though Abactor reads "after successful resolution" and
> > "independent of the action," it's still during the action?
>
> Yes, "just as if he or she had committed diablerie".
>
>
>
> > - D.J.
>
> > > > Abactor
> > > > Type: Action
> > > > +1 stealth hunt action.
> > > > Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to
> > > > call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as
> > > > if he or she had committed diablerie).

Thanks for the answer.

Vinícius BH

11/11/2010 3:10:00 AM

0

On 10 nov, 17:59, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 6:37 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > Now that is just mean...
>
> But oh so very funny...

Indeed. The idea with my Spirit Marionette decks is "how can I waste a
minion with 1 action". For instance, to play Abomination on
marionetted werewolves (happened once) + Resurrection (never happened
still).

Dasein

11/11/2010 3:40:00 AM

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On Nov 11, 2:10 pm, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 nov, 17:59, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 6:37 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Vinícius BH <mak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I'd like to know whether is possible this combo: My OBE vampire plays
> > > > SM at superior on an untapped titled vampire; he is emptied with
> > > > Heidelberg Castle and hunts with Abactor. In the resulting blood hunt,
> > > > I use the votes of the vampire stolen to vote for burning him.
>
> > > Now that is just mean...
>
> > But oh so very funny...
>
> Indeed. The idea with my Spirit Marionette decks is "how can I waste a
> minion with 1 action". For instance, to play Abomination on
> marionetted werewolves (happened once) + Resurrection (never happened
> still).

That's cute. But burning allies is super easy. Just Rave and move all
the blood/life off onto one of your guys. (Heidelberg doesn't work
with allies, but Rave does).

Burning your own vampires is a bit harder. There's always the old
trick of putting a for skill card on them, steal them, then Force of
Will and/or Daring the Dawn. May burn depending on how much blood they
have. Works well with Rave and/or Heidelberg for obvious reasons.