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XZealot

11/6/2010 6:19:00 PM

Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
Author :
Description :

Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
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4x Ariadne
4x Juniper
4x Jacob Fermor

Library (90 cards)
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Action (14)
11x Abactor
3x Dark Mirror of the Mind

Action Modifier (6)
10x Freak Drive

Ally (8)
1x Ossian
7x Renegade Garou

Combat (31)
4x Dodge
8x Form of Mist
4x Glancing Blow
5x Pulled Fangs
5x Target Vitals
5x Weighted Walking Stick

Master (17)
1x Backways
1x Charisma
1x Ecoterrorists
10x Minion Tap

Reaction (14)
9x Deflection
5x Poison Pill

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. (Fri Jun 05 11:50:33 2009)

7 Answers

Kevin M.

11/6/2010 8:51:00 PM

XZealot wrote:
> Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
>
> Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 4x Ariadne
> 4x Juniper
> 4x Jacob Fermor
>
> Library (90 cards)
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Action (14)
> 11x Abactor
> 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind
>
> Action Modifier (6)
> 10x Freak Drive
>
> Ally (8)
> 1x Ossian
> 7x Renegade Garou
>
> Combat (31)
> 4x Dodge
> 8x Form of Mist
> 4x Glancing Blow
> 5x Pulled Fangs
> 5x Target Vitals
> 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>
> Master (17)
> 1x Backways
> 1x Charisma
> 1x Ecoterrorists
> 10x Minion Tap
>
> Reaction (14)
> 9x Deflection
> 5x Poison Pill

No stealth, other than Form of Mist?
No Fame?
No Dragonbound?
No Unmasking?
No Vagabond Mystic?
No Carlton?
No Jake Washington?

I like surprise cards, and in my version of this deck,
I run 1x Claws of the Dead and 1x Beast Meld.

I also use a slightly different crypt, to get more vampires into play.
5 Ariadne ANI FOR PRO 8 Gangrel
3 Jacob Fermor ani PRO 5 Gangrel
2 Gunnar for PRO 4 Gangrel
1 Jezebelle ani for pro 4 Gangrel
1 Lillian ani pro 3 Gangrel

Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! http://vtesville.mymin...
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/12974...

Stephanie Iwanciow Haas

11/7/2010 8:22:00 PM

On Nov 6, 12:50 pm, "Kevin M." <youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
> XZealot wrote:
> > Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
>
> > Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > 4x Ariadne
> > 4x Juniper
> > 4x Jacob Fermor
>
> > Library (90 cards)
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Action (14)
> > 11x Abactor
> > 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind
>
> > Action Modifier (6)
> > 10x Freak Drive
>
> > Ally (8)
> > 1x Ossian
> > 7x Renegade Garou
>
> > Combat (31)
> > 4x Dodge
> > 8x Form of Mist
> > 4x Glancing Blow
> > 5x Pulled Fangs
> > 5x Target Vitals
> > 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>
> > Master (17)
> > 1x Backways
> > 1x Charisma
> > 1x Ecoterrorists
> > 10x Minion Tap
>
> > Reaction (14)
> > 9x Deflection
> > 5x Poison Pill
>
> No stealth, other than Form of Mist?
> No Fame?
> No Dragonbound?
> No Unmasking?
> No Vagabond Mystic?
> No Carlton?
> No Jake Washington?
>
> I like surprise cards, and in my version of this deck,
> I run 1x Claws of the Dead and 1x Beast Meld.
>
> I also use a slightly different crypt, to get more vampires into play.
> 5 Ariadne ANI FOR PRO 8 Gangrel
> 3 Jacob Fermor ani PRO 5 Gangrel
> 2 Gunnar for PRO 4 Gangrel
> 1 Jezebelle ani for pro 4 Gangrel
> 1 Lillian ani pro 3 Gangrel
>
> Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
> "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
> you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
> "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
> Please visit VTESville daily!http://vtesville.mymin...
> Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/groups/12974...

Running this deck without Perfectionist? Minion Tap, really? Why not
DT instead of Poison Pill? I do think that Juniper is an interesting
inclusion, but needing 14 pool of vampires before you can bounce(once
between turns) and do your trick seems excessive. Add another 5 for
the first werewolf and you have 11 pool, not counting any potential,
maybe suddened or otherwise hosed Minion Tap. The lack of intercept is
troubling, as is the lack of DIs. I understand that Juniper is
supposed to steal Garou back, but the 1 stealth wont do it much of the
time.

By the way, where did all of these decks come from?

Brandon

XZealot

11/9/2010 6:54:00 PM

On Nov 7, 2:21 pm, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 6, 12:50 pm, "Kevin M." <youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > XZealot wrote:
> > > Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
>
> > > Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 4x Ariadne
> > > 4x Juniper
> > > 4x Jacob Fermor
>
> > > Library (90 cards)
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Action (14)
> > > 11x Abactor
> > > 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind
>
> > > Action Modifier (6)
> > > 10x Freak Drive
>
> > > Ally (8)
> > > 1x Ossian
> > > 7x Renegade Garou
>
> > > Combat (31)
> > > 4x Dodge
> > > 8x Form of Mist
> > > 4x Glancing Blow
> > > 5x Pulled Fangs
> > > 5x Target Vitals
> > > 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>
> > > Master (17)
> > > 1x Backways
> > > 1x Charisma
> > > 1x Ecoterrorists
> > > 10x Minion Tap
>
> > > Reaction (14)
> > > 9x Deflection
> > > 5x Poison Pill
>
> > No stealth, other than Form of Mist?
> > No Fame?
> > No Dragonbound?
> > No Unmasking?
> > No Vagabond Mystic?
> > No Carlton?
> > No Jake Washington?
>
> > I like surprise cards, and in my version of this deck,
> > I run 1x Claws of the Dead and 1x Beast Meld.
>
> > I also use a slightly different crypt, to get more vampires into play.
> > 5 Ariadne ANI FOR PRO 8 Gangrel
> > 3 Jacob Fermor ani PRO 5 Gangrel
> > 2 Gunnar for PRO 4 Gangrel
> > 1 Jezebelle ani for pro 4 Gangrel
> > 1 Lillian ani pro 3 Gangrel
>
> > Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
> > "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
> > you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
> > "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
> > Please visit VTESville daily!http://vtesville.mymin...
> > Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/groups/12974...
>
> Running this deck without Perfectionist? Minion Tap, really? Why not
> DT instead of Poison Pill? I do think that Juniper is an interesting
> inclusion, but needing 14 pool of vampires before you can bounce(once
> between turns) and do your trick seems excessive. Add another 5 for
> the first werewolf and you have 11 pool, not counting any potential,
> maybe suddened or otherwise hosed Minion Tap. The lack of intercept is
> troubling, as is the lack of DIs. I understand that Juniper is
> supposed to steal Garou back, but the 1 stealth wont do it much of the
> time.
>
> By the way, where did all of these decks come from?
>
> Brandon

This is a totally raw deck and didn't perform well in the two games
that I was in. I am looking for some advice for improvement

brandonsantacruz

11/9/2010 7:45:00 PM

On Nov 9, 10:53 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2:21 pm, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas <steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 12:50 pm, "Kevin M." <youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>
> > > XZealot wrote:
> > > > Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
>
> > > > Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 4x Ariadne
> > > > 4x Juniper
> > > > 4x Jacob Fermor
>
> > > > Library (90 cards)
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Action (14)
> > > > 11x Abactor
> > > > 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind
>
> > > > Action Modifier (6)
> > > > 10x Freak Drive
>
> > > > Ally (8)
> > > > 1x Ossian
> > > > 7x Renegade Garou
>
> > > > Combat (31)
> > > > 4x Dodge
> > > > 8x Form of Mist
> > > > 4x Glancing Blow
> > > > 5x Pulled Fangs
> > > > 5x Target Vitals
> > > > 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>
> > > > Master (17)
> > > > 1x Backways
> > > > 1x Charisma
> > > > 1x Ecoterrorists
> > > > 10x Minion Tap
>
> > > > Reaction (14)
> > > > 9x Deflection
> > > > 5x Poison Pill
>
> > > No stealth, other than Form of Mist?
> > > No Fame?
> > > No Dragonbound?
> > > No Unmasking?
> > > No Vagabond Mystic?
> > > No Carlton?
> > > No Jake Washington?
>
> > > I like surprise cards, and in my version of this deck,
> > > I run 1x Claws of the Dead and 1x Beast Meld.
>
> > > I also use a slightly different crypt, to get more vampires into play.
> > > 5 Ariadne ANI FOR PRO 8 Gangrel
> > > 3 Jacob Fermor ani PRO 5 Gangrel
> > > 2 Gunnar for PRO 4 Gangrel
> > > 1 Jezebelle ani for pro 4 Gangrel
> > > 1 Lillian ani pro 3 Gangrel
>
> > > Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
> > > "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
> > > you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
> > > "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
> > > Please visit VTESville daily!http://vtesville.mymin...
> > > Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/groups/12974...
>
> > Running this deck without Perfectionist? Minion Tap, really? Why not
> > DT instead of Poison Pill? I do think that Juniper is an interesting
> > inclusion, but needing 14 pool of vampires before you can bounce(once
> > between turns) and do your trick seems excessive. Add another 5 for
> > the first werewolf and you have 11 pool, not counting any potential,
> > maybe suddened or otherwise hosed Minion Tap. The lack of intercept is
> > troubling, as is the lack of DIs. I understand that Juniper is
> > supposed to steal Garou back, but the 1 stealth wont do it much of the
> > time.
>
> > By the way, where did all of these decks come from?
>
> > Brandon
>
> This is a totally raw deck and didn't perform well in the two games
> that I was in. I am looking for some advice for improvement

Have you looked at these posts?

http://ttcmaster.blogspot.com/2009/05/creation-...

http://ttcmaster.blogspot.com/2009/05/creation-ri...

There are many others, but I found those two and the associated
comments useful for my Ariadne Abactor deck.

Brandon

Aleksi Nuora

11/9/2010 8:11:00 PM

On 9 marras, 20:53, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> This is a totally raw deck and didn't perform well in the two games
> that I was in. I am looking for some advice for improvement

What went wrong? Was it because of this deck, your opponent's decks,
bad plays or just bad luck?

Unlicensed Taxicab is practically permanent +1 stealth for Ariadne,
think about it.

This looks like a deck that could be improved by cutting it to 60-70
cards. Draw your Charisma and Unmasking faster, draw more consistently
and so on.

You're not using your Trifle slots, include Washes against Villein.

XZealot

11/9/2010 11:37:00 PM

On Nov 9, 2:10 pm, Aleksi Nuora <aleksinu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 marras, 20:53, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is a totally raw deck and didn't perform well in the two games
> > that I was in. I am looking for some advice for improvement
>
> What went wrong? Was it because of this deck, your opponent's decks,
> bad plays or just bad luck?

Sebastian Goulet showed up

> Unlicensed Taxicab is practically permanent +1 stealth for Ariadne,
> think about it.
>
> This looks like a deck that could be improved by cutting it to 60-70
> cards. Draw your Charisma and Unmasking faster, draw more consistently
> and so on.
>
> You're not using your Trifle slots, include Washes against Villein.

Sounds good

XZealot

11/10/2010 11:50:00 AM

On 11/9/2010 1:45 PM, brandonsantacruz wrote:
> On Nov 9, 10:53 am, XZealot<xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 2:21 pm, Stephanie Iwanciow Haas<steph.i.h...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 12:50 pm, "Kevin M."<youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> XZealot wrote:
>>>>> Deck Name : Ariadne's Garou Friends
>>
>>>>> Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.33333
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 4x Ariadne
>>>>> 4x Juniper
>>>>> 4x Jacob Fermor
>>
>>>>> Library (90 cards)
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Action (14)
>>>>> 11x Abactor
>>>>> 3x Dark Mirror of the Mind
>>
>>>>> Action Modifier (6)
>>>>> 10x Freak Drive
>>
>>>>> Ally (8)
>>>>> 1x Ossian
>>>>> 7x Renegade Garou
>>
>>>>> Combat (31)
>>>>> 4x Dodge
>>>>> 8x Form of Mist
>>>>> 4x Glancing Blow
>>>>> 5x Pulled Fangs
>>>>> 5x Target Vitals
>>>>> 5x Weighted Walking Stick
>>
>>>>> Master (17)
>>>>> 1x Backways
>>>>> 1x Charisma
>>>>> 1x Ecoterrorists
>>>>> 10x Minion Tap
>>
>>>>> Reaction (14)
>>>>> 9x Deflection
>>>>> 5x Poison Pill
>>
>>>> No stealth, other than Form of Mist?
>>>> No Fame?
>>>> No Dragonbound?
>>>> No Unmasking?
>>>> No Vagabond Mystic?
>>>> No Carlton?
>>>> No Jake Washington?
>>
>>>> I like surprise cards, and in my version of this deck,
>>>> I run 1x Claws of the Dead and 1x Beast Meld.
>>
>>>> I also use a slightly different crypt, to get more vampires into play.
>>>> 5 Ariadne ANI FOR PRO 8 Gangrel
>>>> 3 Jacob Fermor ani PRO 5 Gangrel
>>>> 2 Gunnar for PRO 4 Gangrel
>>>> 1 Jezebelle ani for pro 4 Gangrel
>>>> 1 Lillian ani pro 3 Gangrel
>>
>>>> Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
>>>> "Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
>>>> you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
>>>> "Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
>>>> Please visit VTESville daily!http://vtesville.mymin...
>>>> Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/groups/12974...
>>
>>> Running this deck without Perfectionist? Minion Tap, really? Why not
>>> DT instead of Poison Pill? I do think that Juniper is an interesting
>>> inclusion, but needing 14 pool of vampires before you can bounce(once
>>> between turns) and do your trick seems excessive. Add another 5 for
>>> the first werewolf and you have 11 pool, not counting any potential,
>>> maybe suddened or otherwise hosed Minion Tap. The lack of intercept is
>>> troubling, as is the lack of DIs. I understand that Juniper is
>>> supposed to steal Garou back, but the 1 stealth wont do it much of the
>>> time.
>>
>>> By the way, where did all of these decks come from?
>>
>>> Brandon
>>
>> This is a totally raw deck and didn't perform well in the two games
>> that I was in. I am looking for some advice for improvement
>
> Have you looked at these posts?
>
> http://ttcmaster.blogspot.com/2009/05/creation-...
>
> http://ttcmaster.blogspot.com/2009/05/creation-ri...
>
> There are many others, but I found those two and the associated
> comments useful for my Ariadne Abactor deck.
>

I will do.

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Deck: Ariadne's Garou Friends

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