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XZealot

11/6/2010 5:17:00 PM

Deck Name : Iron Sonja
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :



Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 2 max: 10 average: 6.5
------------------------------------------------------------

5x Sonja Blue
1x Gracetius
1x Jamal
1x Hektor
1x Muhandis
1x Mukhtar Bey
1x Ubende
1x Jayne Jonestown

Library (90 cards)
------------------------------------------------------------

Action Modifier (26)
6x Bewitching Oration
10x Forced March
5x Iron Glare
5x Voter Captivation

Action Modifier/Combat (7)
7x Resist Earth's Grasp

Combat (28)
9x Catatonic Fear
3x Psyche!
8x Target Vitals
8x Thin Blood

Master (19)
5x Effective Management
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
5x Social Ladder
7x Villein

Political Action (8)
8x Kine Resources Contested

Retainer (2)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. (Tue Jun 16 15:35:55 2009)
15 Answers

Vincent

11/6/2010 6:50:00 PM

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Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
Ladders are useless.
8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.

The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
potence).

Crappy deck! :)

XZealot

11/7/2010 10:18:00 PM

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On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> Ladders are useless.
> 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> potence).
>
> Crappy deck! :)

This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
mind. I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
then they quit trying. You can then move to this style deck without
the Diamond Thunderbolts.

Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
here.

Vincent

11/8/2010 11:35:00 AM

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On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > Ladders are useless.
> > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > potence).
>
> > Crappy deck! :)
>
> This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> here.

It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
once to steal her.

I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).

XZealot

11/8/2010 2:26:00 PM

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On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > Ladders are useless.
> > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > potence).
>
> > > Crappy deck! :)
>
> > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > here.
>
> It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> once to steal her.
>
> I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).

I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen. And they all
have been played at least twice.

Amenophobis

11/8/2010 3:12:00 PM

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On 8 Nov., 15:26, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > > Ladders are useless.
> > > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > > potence).
>
> > > > Crappy deck! :)
>
> > > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> > > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > > here.
>
> > It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> > once to steal her.
>
> > I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> > How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> > such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> > what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> > to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).
>
> I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen.  And they all
> have been played at least twice.

That is all good and nice, but if you want specific comments, it would
be a good think to add a short description what the deck is supposed
to do (your decks are not always immediately obvious), and if/what
type of comments you'd like to receive. :)

Keep on making cool decks!

Vincent

11/8/2010 4:26:00 PM

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On 8 nov, 15:26, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > > Ladders are useless.
> > > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > > potence).
>
> > > > Crappy deck! :)
>
> > > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> > > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > > here.
>
> > It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> > once to steal her.
>
> > I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> > How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> > such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> > what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> > to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).
>
> I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen.  And they all
> have been played at least twice.

Who is interested in 100 uncommented decks?

You've posted 30 (!) decks in two days, without any comment of any
sort. For me, it's plain spam (I'm not even talking about quality
here).

Did you think about creating a blog, website or forum to post all
these decks instead of the newsgroup? It would allow also edit and
upgrading...

hg

11/8/2010 6:59:00 PM

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Vincent <v.ripoll@gmail.com> writes:

> On 8 nov, 15:26, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > > > Ladders are useless.
> > > > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
> >
> > > > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > > > potence).
> >
> > > > > Crappy deck! :)
> >
> > > > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > > > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > > > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > > > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > > > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
> >
> > > > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > > > here.
> >
> > > It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> > > once to steal her.
> >
> > > I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> > > How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> > > such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> > > what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> > > to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).
> >
> > I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen.  And they all
> > have been played at least twice.
>
> Who is interested in 100 uncommented decks?



I am.

If you don't like to read his decks, then *don't read his decks*.
Problem solved. Sheesh.


HG

Petri Wessman

11/8/2010 8:07:00 PM

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On Nov 8, 8:58 pm, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
> Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On 8 nov, 15:26, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > > > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > > > > Ladders are useless.
> > > > > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > > > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > > > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > > > > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > > > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > > > > potence).
>
> > > > > > Crappy deck! :)
>
> > > > > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > > > > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > > > > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > > > > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > > > > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> > > > > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > > > > here.
>
> > > > It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> > > > once to steal her.
>
> > > > I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> > > > How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> > > > such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> > > > what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> > > > to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).
>
> > > I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen.  And they all
> > > have been played at least twice.
>
> > Who is interested in 100 uncommented decks?
>
> I am.
>
> If you don't like to read his decks, then *don't read his decks*.
> Problem solved.  Sheesh.
>
>                 HG

Same here. I mean, sure, some commentary would be cool (what the deck
tries to do, what it has problems with, etc). But even as is, there
are some fun ideas here.

-Petri

Meej

11/8/2010 9:06:00 PM

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On Nov 8, 3:07 pm, Petri Wessman <or...@iki.fi> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 8:58 pm, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> writes:
> > > On 8 nov, 15:26, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 8, 5:34 am, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 7 nov, 23:17, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:49 pm, Vincent <v.rip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Crappy crypt, how did Sonja Blue landed up here?
> > > > > > > And since there's no Diamond Thunderbolt to protect her, the Social
> > > > > > > Ladders are useless.
> > > > > > > 8 votes on 90 cards seems to little, especially for the 6 Bewitching
> > > > > > > and the 5 Iron Glare that only Gracetius and Hektor can play at
> > > > > > > superior. And you'll jam as hell with no way to enter combat actively.
>
> > > > > > > The idea behind Thin Blood + Catatonic Fear + TV is funny, but the
> > > > > > > crypt choices are too bad (especially if you want to add some
> > > > > > > potence).
>
> > > > > > > Crappy deck! :)
>
> > > > > > This deck is designed with a Diamond Thunderbolt heavy meta game in
> > > > > > mind.  I usually play all my Sonja Decks at the same time on JOL.
> > > > > > Usually after someone gets burned in a game by 3x Diamond Thunderbolt
> > > > > > then they quit trying.  You can then move to this style deck without
> > > > > > the Diamond Thunderbolts.
>
> > > > > > Yes, this might need some work, but if it didn't I wouldn't post it
> > > > > > here.
>
> > > > > It's a strange metagaming. Even then, I would've always try at least
> > > > > once to steal her.
>
> > > > > I'm not sure than posting ten decks is the best way to get comments.
> > > > > How many times have they been tested? We don't Even have any feedback
> > > > > such as "I 'd like to improve the combat part" or explanation about
> > > > > what the deck is supposed to do. Sorry to say, but it looks like spam
> > > > > to me (I can post 2 decks without any comments each day too...).
>
> > > > I can post 100 decks right now that you have never seen.  And they all
> > > > have been played at least twice.
>
> > > Who is interested in 100 uncommented decks?
>
> > I am.
>
> > If you don't like to read his decks, then *don't read his decks*.
> > Problem solved.  Sheesh.
>
> >                 HG
>
> Same here. I mean, sure, some commentary would be cool (what the deck
> tries to do, what it has problems with, etc). But even as is, there
> are some fun ideas here.

Y'know, I agree - there are some fun ideas in here. But to be honest,
I know I don't have the stamina to search through the half-baked ones
or the mis-titled ones or the same-old-same-old ones to find them when
he posts 30 in a row with no comment or differentiation.

His good ideas are getting lost in his own signal-to-noise ratio, in
my opinion.

- D.J.

Brum

11/9/2010 1:46:00 AM

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On Nov 6, 5:17 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> Deck Name : Iron Sonja
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
>
> Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 2 max: 10 average: 6.5
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 5x Sonja Blue
> 1x Gracetius
> 1x Jamal
> 1x Hektor
> 1x Muhandis
> 1x Mukhtar Bey
> 1x Ubende
> 1x Jayne Jonestown
>
> Library (90 cards)
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action Modifier (26)
> 6x Bewitching Oration
> 10x Forced March
> 5x Iron Glare
> 5x Voter Captivation
>
> Action Modifier/Combat (7)
> 7x Resist Earth's Grasp
>
> Combat (28)
> 9x Catatonic Fear
> 3x Psyche!
> 8x Target Vitals
> 8x Thin Blood
>
> Master (19)
> 5x Effective Management
> 1x Giant's Blood
> 1x Golconda: Inner Peace
> 5x Social Ladder
> 7x Villein
>
> Political Action (8)
> 8x Kine Resources Contested
>
> Retainer (2)
> 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
> 1x Tasha Morgan
>
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. (Tue Jun 16 15:35:55 2009)

I'm sure you've tryed this, but I'll ask anyway:

Sonja: Reckless Agitation - Daring the Dawn - Awe - occasional Voter
Cap.
Great fun.
Add Princes for suport and the card to turn them into Barons of the
same city.
Whatever they go, Ventrue need to rule.

Tiago