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European Championship Day 2 TWD

extrala

11/1/2010 3:56:00 PM

EC 2010 Day 2
Paris, France
October 31, 2010
3R+F
40 players
Brian Moritz

Deck Name: EC 2010 Day 2: Akunanse Bleed/Combat
Author: Brian Moritz
Description: http://www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&a...

Crypt (13 cards; Capacity min=3 max=11 avg=7.31)
================================================
2x Amavi 8 pre pro ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:4
1x Dolie 3 abo ani Akunanse:4
2x Fakir al Sidi 11 abo ANI FOR PRE PRO THA Gangrel:4
1x Jubal 6 for pot ABO ANI Akunanse:4
3x Matata 9 aus cel obf ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:3
2x Nestor Kaba 4 abo ani for Akunanse:4
1x Sanjo 6 abo chi ANI FOR Akunanse:3
1x Uchenna 7 ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:4

Library (82 cards)
==================
Master (21)
3x Abombwe
2x Blood Doll
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
2x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
2x Rack, The
5x Villein

Action (8)
7x Deep Song
1x Well-Marked

Political Action (1)
1x Ancient Influence

Equipment (1)
1x Reliquary: Akunanse Remains

Retainer (7)
1x Mr. Winthrop
6x Raven Spy

Reaction (17)
2x Cats' Guidance
3x On the Qui Vive
8x Predator's Communion
4x Sense the Savage Way

Combat (27)
1x Canine Horde
7x Carrion Crows
3x Devil-Channel: Back
9x Invoking the Beast
3x Rolling with the Punches
4x Taste of Vitae

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Nov 1, 2010 17:54:23)
22 Answers

Vitor

6/10/2007 9:23:00 PM

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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> In article <466c529a$0$16591$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
>
>> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> In article <466c3a34$0$5168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>>> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are a Republican I would suggest Delay's book. It is very
>>>> interesting. He embodies republican principles
>>> are you suggesting that all republicans should break the law and be
>>> indicted as delay was? (i agree that most republicans seem to emulate
>>> delay's criminal behavior.)
>>>
>> He was indited but not convicted I have not heard that the case will
>> even go to trial.
>
>
> i heard he was trying to cop a plea
>
>> His side of the story is that the Democrats targeted
>> him because he was effective in legislation much the same way that Rove
>> it targeted.
>
>
> i read that using that story he was actually able to convince 0.8% of
> the really low end types.
>

That is just intimidation. We will see how it all turns out. I have
not heard anything else since he left congress. From reading his book
it doesn't sound like a person who couldn't win as court case. I will
let the outcomes speak for themselves.
>
>> From how I deal with the left here, I would tend to agree
>> they resort to such tactics. We have seen time an again that the
>> Democrats resort to character assassination and legal maneuvers when
>> they can't win democratically.
>
> are you suggesting the democrats swift-boated john kerry?
>

Swift boating... Like saying Bush dodges service, or used cocaine.
It's all politics. I am saying instead of dealing with the arguments
they just call me names and say I am stupid. They attack the
credibility of peopel they don't like and because they say they are bad
people I am stupid for liking their ideas.

james g. keegan jr.

6/10/2007 10:46:00 PM

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In article <466c6bc7$0$4725$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:

> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> > In article <466c529a$0$16591$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >
> >> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> >>> In article <466c3a34$0$5168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> >>> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If you are a Republican I would suggest Delay's book. It is very
> >>>> interesting. He embodies republican principles
> >>> are you suggesting that all republicans should break the law and be
> >>> indicted as delay was? (i agree that most republicans seem to emulate
> >>> delay's criminal behavior.)
> >>>
> >> He was indited but not convicted I have not heard that the case will
> >> even go to trial.
> >
> >
> > i heard he was trying to cop a plea
> >
> >> His side of the story is that the Democrats targeted
> >> him because he was effective in legislation much the same way that Rove
> >> it targeted.
> >
> >
> > i read that using that story he was actually able to convince 0.8% of
> > the really low end types.
> >
>
> That is just intimidation.

are you more intimidated that the congress, then controlled by the
gop, had to change the ethics rules to keep him around until he was
indicted or by his behavior itself?

> We will see how it all turns out.

hopefully he will go to jail for longer than libby


> >> From how I deal with the left here, I would tend to agree
> >> they resort to such tactics. We have seen time an again that the
> >> Democrats resort to character assassination and legal maneuvers when
> >> they can't win democratically.
> >
> > are you suggesting the democrats swift-boated john kerry?
> >
>
> Swift boating... Like saying Bush dodges service, or used cocaine.
> It's all politics.

really? most people consider facts to be facts. is there some reason
you seem to refer to facts as "politics?" is english a second
language for you?

--
get real. like jesus would ever own a gun or vote republican.

Robert

6/10/2007 11:30:00 PM

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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:36:01 -0500, Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:

>james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> In article <466c3a34$0$5168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are a Republican I would suggest Delay's book. It is very
>>> interesting. He embodies republican principles
>>
>> are you suggesting that all republicans should break the law and be
>> indicted as delay was? (i agree that most republicans seem to emulate
>> delay's criminal behavior.)
>>
>
>He was indited but not convicted I have not heard that the case will
>even go to trial. His side of the story is that the Democrats targeted
>him because he was effective in legislation much the same way that Rove
>it targeted. From how I deal with the left here, I would tend to agree
>they resort to such tactics.

> We have seen time an again that the
>Democrats resort to character assassination and legal maneuvers when
>they can't win democratically.

Change Democrat to Republican and you are dead on.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.te...

John Mayson

6/11/2007 2:15:00 AM

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rfischer

6/13/2007 2:49:00 PM

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John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Vitor wrote:
>> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> In article <466c3a34$0$5168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>>> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are a Republican I would suggest Delay's book. It is very
>>>> interesting. He embodies republican principles
>>>
>>> are you suggesting that all republicans should break the law and be
>>> indicted as delay was? (i agree that most republicans seem to emulate
>>> delay's criminal behavior.)
>>>
>>
>> He was indited but not convicted I have not heard that the case will even go
>> to trial. His side of the story is that the Democrats targeted him because
>> he was effective in legislation much the same way that Rove it targeted.
>> From how I deal with the left here, I would tend to agree they resort to such
>> tactics. We have seen time an again that the Democrats resort to character
>> assassination and legal maneuvers when they can't win democratically.
>
>I was always lukewarm to Delay, but the prosecutor went grand jury
>shopping until he found one who would indict Delay.

Neocon bullshit.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

Biscuits and Books

6/13/2007 3:27:00 PM

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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:467003db$0$14060$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Vitor wrote:
>>> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>>> In article <466c3a34$0$5168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>>>> Vitor <none@yahoo.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you are a Republican I would suggest Delay's book. It is very
>>>>> interesting. He embodies republican principles
>>>>
>>>> are you suggesting that all republicans should break the law and be
>>>> indicted as delay was? (i agree that most republicans seem to emulate
>>>> delay's criminal behavior.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> He was indited but not convicted I have not heard that the case will
>>> even go
>>> to trial. His side of the story is that the Democrats targeted him
>>> because
>>> he was effective in legislation much the same way that Rove it targeted.
>>> From how I deal with the left here, I would tend to agree they resort to
>>> such
>>> tactics. We have seen time an again that the Democrats resort to
>>> character
>>> assassination and legal maneuvers when they can't win democratically.
>>
>>I was always lukewarm to Delay, but the prosecutor went grand jury
>>shopping until he found one who would indict Delay.
>
> Neocon bullshit.

Yes, and that's exxactly what the reichbots do -- assasinate YOUR character
(Nixon invented it), then claim you did it to them. Of course it's totally
insane (schizos do it all the time), and that's the point. They get you to
argue with them on their turf, when you should just kick their ass for
insulting your intelligence with this.


John Mayson

6/13/2007 11:54:00 PM

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extrala

11/1/2010 3:58:00 PM

0

Slight error in the first list: There's only copy of Nestor Kaba in
the deck.

EC 2010 Day 2
Paris, France
October 31, 2010
3R+F
40 players
Brian Moritz

Deck Name: EC 2010 Day 2: Akunanse Bleed/Combat
Author: Brian Moritz
Description: http://www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&a...

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=3 max=11 avg=7.58)
================================================
2x Amavi 8 pre pro ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:4
1x Dolie 3 abo ani Akunanse:4
2x Fakir al Sidi 11 abo ANI FOR PRE PRO THA Gangrel:4
1x Jubal 6 for pot ABO ANI Akunanse:4
3x Matata 9 aus cel obf ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:3
1x Nestor Kaba 4 abo ani for Akunanse:4
1x Sanjo 6 abo chi ANI FOR Akunanse:3
1x Uchenna 7 ABO ANI FOR Akunanse:4

Library (82 cards)
==================
Master (21)
3x Abombwe
2x Blood Doll
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
2x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
2x Rack, The
5x Villein

Action (8)
7x Deep Song
1x Well-Marked

Political Action (1)
1x Ancient Influence

Equipment (1)
1x Reliquary: Akunanse Remains

Retainer (7)
1x Mr. Winthrop
6x Raven Spy

Reaction (17)
2x Cats' Guidance
3x On the Qui Vive
8x Predator's Communion
4x Sense the Savage Way

Combat (27)
1x Canine Horde
7x Carrion Crows
3x Devil-Channel: Back
9x Invoking the Beast
3x Rolling with the Punches
4x Taste of Vitae

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Nov 1, 2010 17:56:57)

Amenophobis

11/1/2010 5:30:00 PM

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On 1 Nov., 16:58, extrala <ralf.lamm...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Slight error in the first list: There's only copy of  Nestor Kaba in
> the deck.
>
> EC 2010 Day 2
> Paris, France
> October 31, 2010
> 3R+F
> 40 players
> Brian Moritz
>
> Deck Name: EC 2010 Day 2: Akunanse Bleed/Combat
> Author: Brian Moritz
> Description:http://www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&a...
>
> Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=3 max=11 avg=7.58)
> ================================================
>  2x  Amavi           8  pre pro ABO ANI FOR      Akunanse:4
>  1x  Dolie           3  abo ani                  Akunanse:4
>  2x  Fakir al Sidi  11  abo ANI FOR PRE PRO THA  Gangrel:4
>  1x  Jubal           6  for pot ABO ANI          Akunanse:4
>  3x  Matata          9  aus cel obf ABO ANI FOR  Akunanse:3
>  1x  Nestor Kaba     4  abo ani for              Akunanse:4
>  1x  Sanjo           6  abo chi ANI FOR          Akunanse:3
>  1x  Uchenna         7  ABO ANI FOR              Akunanse:4
>
> Library (82 cards)
> ==================
> Master (21)
>  3x Abombwe
>  2x Blood Doll
>  2x Dreams of the Sphinx
>  2x Giant's Blood
>  1x Information Highway
>  2x Mbare Market, Harare
>  1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
>  1x Powerbase: Montreal
>  2x Rack, The
>  5x Villein
>
> Action (8)
>  7x Deep Song
>  1x Well-Marked
>
> Political Action (1)
>  1x Ancient Influence
>
> Equipment (1)
>  1x Reliquary: Akunanse Remains
>
> Retainer (7)
>  1x Mr. Winthrop
>  6x Raven Spy
>
> Reaction (17)
>  2x Cats' Guidance
>  3x On the Qui Vive
>  8x Predator's Communion
>  4x Sense the Savage Way
>
> Combat (27)
>  1x Canine Horde
>  7x Carrion Crows
>  3x Devil-Channel: Back
>  9x Invoking the Beast
>  3x Rolling with the Punches
>  4x Taste of Vitae
>
> Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Nov 1, 2010 17:56:57)

Nice deck. But I don't see how it could win at all. I think I read
somewhere that it was supposed to bloat a lot and put out a lot of
minions. How?

Izaak

11/1/2010 5:37:00 PM

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>I think I read
>somewhere that it was supposed to bloat a lot and put out a lot of
>minions. How?

That was me saying that because that's what I saw when it killed me
mercilessly (and I was playing a lot of bloat...).
Mbare Market adds up over a game and of course it helps if you can do the
ridiculously broken Villein for 9 + Giant's Blood on your second turn.

>Nice deck. But I don't see how it could win at all.

The player driving it and table seating it is really all that matters. The
best decks in the world lose when they get a retarded seating or useless
crosstable allies. Awful decks win when they get very favorable positions.
Good players make average decks great. VTES is about playing the table and
not so much about building and playing a deck.