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Replacing the White Wolf Tournament Calendar

The Lasombra

10/5/2010 1:00:00 AM

Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?

Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
White Wolf's tournament calendar?

Here are some examples:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/we...
http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php...
http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...

http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=2&orde...

Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?
It would be easy to clean up their input to get better results.
11 Answers

The Lasombra

10/5/2010 1:03:00 AM

0

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:59:56 -0400, The Lasombra wrote:

>Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?

>Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
>White Wolf's tournament calendar?

>Here are some examples:
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/we...
>http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php...
>http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...

>http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=2&orde...

>Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?

Looks like I found the answer to this one....
http://www.phpcodewor...

Shockwave

10/5/2010 9:34:00 AM

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On 5 Oct, 02:02, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:59:56 -0400, The Lasombra wrote:
> >Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?
> >Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
> >White Wolf's tournament calendar?
> >Here are some examples:
> >http://sourceforge.net/projects/we...
> >http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php...
> >http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...
> >http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=......
> >Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?
>
> Looks like I found the answer to this one....http://www.phpcodewor...

A point worth consideration. Should we be expecting the various WW
resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?

Slightly off-topic to this, but an 'official' (in as close as
possible, adopted by people like LSJ / Oscar / The Coordinators /
Yourself considering our defunct status) location for this all to be
hosted would be quite important, too. We have something of a
fragmentation already, with multiple forums dotted here & there,
mostly due (imo) to the abomination that is the WW forum software. I
think having these various resources centrallised would go a long way
to ensuring the games' survival.

Damnans

10/5/2010 12:14:00 PM

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El 05/10/2010 11:34, Shockwave escribió:
> On 5 Oct, 02:02, The Lasombra<TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:59:56 -0400, The Lasombra wrote:
>>> Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?
>>> Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
>>> White Wolf's tournament calendar?
>>> Here are some examples:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/we...
>>> http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php...
>>> http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...
>>> http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=......
>>> Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?
>>
>> Looks like I found the answer to this one....http://www.phpcodewor...
>
> A point worth consideration. Should we be expecting the various WW
> resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?
>
> Slightly off-topic to this, but an 'official' (in as close as
> possible, adopted by people like LSJ / Oscar / The Coordinators /
> Yourself considering our defunct status) location for this all to be
> hosted would be quite important, too. We have something of a
> fragmentation already, with multiple forums dotted here& there,
> mostly due (imo) to the abomination that is the WW forum software. I
> think having these various resources centrallised would go a long way
> to ensuring the games' survival.

All those resources are currently being centralised.

--
Damnans

http://www.almadrava.n...
http://ww...
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/vte...
http://iuturna.s... (IRC channel: #vtes)

Shockwave

10/5/2010 12:54:00 PM

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On 5 Oct, 13:13, Damnans <damnansv...@ono.com> wrote:
> El 05/10/2010 11:34, Shockwave escribió:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Oct, 02:02, The Lasombra<TheLasom...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:59:56 -0400, The Lasombra wrote:
> >>> Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?
> >>> Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
> >>> White Wolf's tournament calendar?
> >>> Here are some examples:
> >>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/we...
> >>>http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php...
> >>>http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...
> >>>http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=......
> >>> Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?
>
> >> Looks like I found the answer to this one....http://www.phpcodewor...
>
> > A point worth consideration. Should we be expecting the various WW
> > resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?
>
> > Slightly off-topic to this, but an 'official' (in as close as
> > possible, adopted by people like LSJ / Oscar / The Coordinators /
> > Yourself considering our defunct status)  location for this all to be
> > hosted would be quite important, too. We have something of a
> > fragmentation already, with multiple forums dotted here&  there,
> > mostly due (imo) to the abomination that is the WW forum software. I
> > think having these various resources centrallised would go a long way
> > to ensuring the games' survival.
>
> All those resources are currently being centralised.
>
> --
> Damnans
>
> http://www.almadrava.net/damnanshttp://www.vtes.nethttp://es.groups.yahoo..com/group/vteshispania/http://iuturna.sorcery...(IRC channel: #vtes)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then I'll just congratulate you guys on being well organised. :)

jono

10/5/2010 2:29:00 PM

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On 5 oct, 02:59, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Have any of you used (deployed) any of the open source web calendars?
>
> Do you have a specific recommendation that V:EKN could use to replace
> White Wolf's tournament calendar?
>
> Here are some examples:http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcalendar/http://www.ultraapps.com/app_overview.php?app_id=19http://www.ma.utexas.edu/we...
>
> http://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/search?categoryId=......
>
> Alternately, does anyone know what White Wolf used?
> It would be easy to clean up their input to get better results.

In my professional projects, I use DHTMLX Scheduler. Very nice
component.

Efficient, simple to use.

The Lasombra

10/5/2010 4:35:00 PM

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 02:34:01 -0700 (PDT), Shockwave wrote:

> Should we be expecting the various WW
>resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?

If they can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes to fix existing issues,
it is relatively safe to assume that they won't spend 30 minutes
removing existing functionality.

That doesn't mean that better solutions shouldn't be pursued
immediately.

Obtenebration

10/5/2010 7:52:00 PM

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On Oct 5, 9:34 am, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 02:34:01 -0700 (PDT), Shockwave wrote:
> > Should we be expecting the various WW
> >resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?
>
> If they can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes to fix existing issues,
> it is relatively safe to assume that they won't spend 30 minutes
> removing existing functionality.
>
> That doesn't mean that better solutions shouldn't be pursued
> immediately.

My thoughts exactly. The website support has been all but nothing and
only after complaining by the player base. I don't see how it is in
the players interest to rely on anything from their site for organized
play.

Especially if they aren't going to be the 'official' sponsors of
events anymore, we have no reason not to centralize
everything(including rankings) on whatever takes over those
administrative tasks.

Juggernaut1981

10/5/2010 8:59:00 PM

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On Oct 6, 6:52 am, Obtenebration <pa...@obtenebration.org> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 9:34 am, The Lasombra <TheLasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 02:34:01 -0700 (PDT), Shockwave wrote:
> > > Should we be expecting the various WW
> > >resources to be vanishing, and planning for alternatives?
>
> > If they can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes to fix existing issues,
> > it is relatively safe to assume that they won't spend 30 minutes
> > removing existing functionality.
>
> > That doesn't mean that better solutions shouldn't be pursued
> > immediately.
>
> My thoughts exactly.  The website support has been all but nothing and
> only after complaining by the player base.  I don't see how it is in
> the players interest to rely on anything from their site for organized
> play.
>
> Especially if they aren't going to be the 'official' sponsors of
> events anymore, we have no reason not to centralize
> everything(including rankings) on whatever takes over those
> administrative tasks.

I agree. I also think in the future, as a player base, we should keep
a separation between event organisation (i.e. Quals, Cont Champs, etc)
and prize support.

The Lasombra

10/5/2010 10:50:00 PM

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT), Juggernaut1981 wrote:

> we should keep a separation between event organisation
> (i.e. Quals, Cont Champs, etc) and prize support.

I have no idea what this means.

Can you expand on these thoughts?

salem

10/16/2010 3:02:00 AM

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The Lasombra wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT), Juggernaut1981 wrote:
>
>> we should keep a separation between event organisation
>> (i.e. Quals, Cont Champs, etc) and prize support.
>
> I have no idea what this means.
>
> Can you expand on these thoughts?

I'm coming in quite late here, but what I think he means is that the player
organisation, with it's qualifiers, championships, rankings, ratings,
calendar, etc should stay with the players, and that if WW or some other
company picks vtes up again, we should continue to maintain it all as
players, and just accept prize and financial support from said company,
without handing over the organisation to them.

I'm personally not sure if that's the right way to go, but I think that's
what he meant.

--
salem
(replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email)