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DeathInABottle

9/11/2010 5:29:00 PM

I'll be there next Saturday. I won't have time for a game, but I'd
like to stop by a game store or two and see if there are any old sets
on offer. (My play group in Victoria will NOT let this game go gently
into the night.) Recommendations? Where should I go?
15 Answers

librarian

9/12/2010 4:24:00 AM

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DeathInABottle wrote:
> I'll be there next Saturday. I won't have time for a game, but I'd
> like to stop by a game store or two and see if there are any old sets
> on offer. (My play group in Victoria will NOT let this game go gently
> into the night.) Recommendations? Where should I go?


contact the people at Rainy Day Games in Aloha OR.

best -

chris

Prince Myshkin

2/10/2012 12:38:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 7:11 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:07 am, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > distributor has it for $11).
>
> Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> Also, these recordings were also issued on United Archive in a 3 CD
> set that included some other Brahms conducted by Walter (the two
> overtures and some other odds and ends - I don't recall exactly).  I
> can't tell you how the sound compares, but the sound on the Sony set
> is fine.
>
> > This is Walter's 1951-3 mono set with the NYPO. As I've said before, I
> > haven't been much of a Walter fan over the years, but I'm always
> > willing to give a re-evaluation the old college try.
>
> This is among my favorite Brahms sets.  I didn't pay a lot of
> attention to Walter during my first half century, but have begun to
> see what I've been missing.
>
> > Is this worth getting? I'd sort of like to find a Walter recording
> > where the consensus is "if this doesn't allow you to get what Walter
> > was about, you never will."
>
> I doubt that you need another Schubert "Unfinished", but his late one
> is among my favorites.  And another vote for his Dvorak 8.
>
> Bill

A quick aside: can someone comment / recommend the Walter Bruckner
8th on M&A? Is this his only version of this work? Thx.

FrankB

2/10/2012 1:11:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 6:37 am, "Peter H." <pbho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 7:11 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 1:07 am, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > > distributor has it for $11).
>
> > Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> > Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> > longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> > Also, these recordings were also issued on United Archive in a 3 CD
> > set that included some other Brahms conducted by Walter (the two
> > overtures and some other odds and ends - I don't recall exactly).  I
> > can't tell you how the sound compares, but the sound on the Sony set
> > is fine.
>
> > > This is Walter's 1951-3 mono set with the NYPO. As I've said before, I
> > > haven't been much of a Walter fan over the years, but I'm always
> > > willing to give a re-evaluation the old college try.
>
> > This is among my favorite Brahms sets.  I didn't pay a lot of
> > attention to Walter during my first half century, but have begun to
> > see what I've been missing.
>
> > > Is this worth getting? I'd sort of like to find a Walter recording
> > > where the consensus is "if this doesn't allow you to get what Walter
> > > was about, you never will."
>
> > I doubt that you need another Schubert "Unfinished", but his late one
> > is among my favorites.  And another vote for his Dvorak 8.
>
> > Bill
>
> A quick aside:  can someone comment / recommend the Walter Bruckner
> 8th on M&A? Is this his only version of this work? Thx.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is indeed his only extant version, a pity since he did it again in
1948 with the NYP but it was not broadcast. The 1941 recording on M&A
is from an off-the-air set of transcription discs in variable
condition, but they did what they could with the source material. The
performance is the same one mentioned near the end of Walter's
autobiography. It could be called "fiery" I suppose, but I would say
that it is both urgent and flexible.

Frank

J.Martin

2/10/2012 5:19:00 PM

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> Also, these recordings were also issued on United Archive in a 3 CD
> set that included some other Brahms conducted by Walter (the two
> overtures and some other odds and ends - I don't recall exactly).  I
> can't tell you how the sound compares, but the sound on the Sony set
> is fine.

I have the UA version. The sound on that is very, very good for the
era--haven't heard the Sony but I can't imagine it being any better.

And yes, the set is essential, even if its virtues relative to the
stereo set have sometimes been exagerrated. (Isn't it always the case
that collectors will tout the virtues of the harder to find set?) The
stereo's good, too. But the mono is among the best cycles on record
for me.

Praetorius

2/10/2012 5:44:00 PM

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wkasimer wrote:
Mark S wrote:

> I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> distributor has it for $11).

Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
Avatar). They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.

[snip]
__________________________________________________

I have had good experiences (including fast shipping) with both
avatarmusic and Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland.

Frank Decolvenaere
To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.

"You are no bigger than
the things that annoy you."
Jerry Bundsen



mark

2/10/2012 5:47:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 9:43 am, "Praetorius" <praetoriusN...@verizon.net> wrote:
> wkasimer wrote:
> Mark S wrote:
> > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > distributor has it for $11).
>
> Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> [snip]
> __________________________________________________
>
> I have had good experiences (including fast shipping) with both
> avatarmusic and Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland.
>
> Frank Decolvenaere
> To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.
>
>   "You are no bigger than
>    the things that annoy you."
>             Jerry Bundsen

I've used Presto and MDT in the past.

I can order the thing from N Carolina for $11.98 + $2.98 shipping and
have the thing by Monday, or I can order it from Avatar or any number
of UK distributors, pay $7.98 + $4.98 shipping and have delivered take
two to three weeks.

T. Esteban Ayala

2/10/2012 5:53:00 PM

0

On Feb 10, 5:10 am, FrankB <antonb1...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 6:37 am, "Peter H." <pbho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 7:11 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 10, 1:07 am, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > > > distributor has it for $11).
>
> > > Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> > > Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> > > longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> > > Also, these recordings were also issued on United Archive in a 3 CD
> > > set that included some other Brahms conducted by Walter (the two
> > > overtures and some other odds and ends - I don't recall exactly).  I
> > > can't tell you how the sound compares, but the sound on the Sony set
> > > is fine.
>
> > > > This is Walter's 1951-3 mono set with the NYPO. As I've said before, I
> > > > haven't been much of a Walter fan over the years, but I'm always
> > > > willing to give a re-evaluation the old college try.
>
> > > This is among my favorite Brahms sets.  I didn't pay a lot of
> > > attention to Walter during my first half century, but have begun to
> > > see what I've been missing.
>
> > > > Is this worth getting? I'd sort of like to find a Walter recording
> > > > where the consensus is "if this doesn't allow you to get what Walter
> > > > was about, you never will."
>
> > > I doubt that you need another Schubert "Unfinished", but his late one
> > > is among my favorites.  And another vote for his Dvorak 8.
>
> > > Bill
>
> > A quick aside:  can someone comment / recommend the Walter Bruckner
> > 8th on M&A? Is this his only version of this work? Thx.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It is indeed his only extant version, a pity since he did it again in
> 1948 with the NYP but it was not broadcast.  The 1941 recording on M&A
> is from an off-the-air set of transcription discs in variable
> condition, but they did what they could with the source material.  The
> performance is the same one mentioned near the end of Walter's
> autobiography.  It could be called "fiery" I suppose, but I would say
> that it is both urgent and flexible.
>
> Frank

A real shame about the sound on that CD. Urgent and flexible is an apt
description; a very fine Bruckner 8th. He had been planning to record
it with the Columbia Symphony (as well as the Mahler 4th, 5th, and
possibly 3rd), but didn't live long enough to do so. That would've
been interesting to hear.

Prince Myshkin

2/10/2012 5:54:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 12:47 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 9:43 am, "Praetorius" <praetoriusN...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > wkasimer wrote:
> > Mark S wrote:
> > > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > > distributor has it for $11).
>
> > Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> > Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> > longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> > [snip]
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > I have had good experiences (including fast shipping) with both
> > avatarmusic and Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland.
>
> > Frank Decolvenaere
> > To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.
>
> >   "You are no bigger than
> >    the things that annoy you."
> >             Jerry Bundsen
>
> I've used Presto and MDT in the past.
>
> I can order the thing from N Carolina for $11.98 + $2.98 shipping and
> have the thing by Monday, or I can order it from Avatar or any number
> of UK distributors, pay $7.98 + $4.98 shipping and have delivered take
> two to three weeks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Shipping is still $2.98 for Amazon, even if it comes from the UK.

Praetorius

2/10/2012 6:02:00 PM

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Mark S wrote:
Praetorius" wrote:
> wkasimer wrote:
> Mark S wrote:
> > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > distributor has it for $11).
>
> Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> Avatar). They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> [snip]
> __________________________________________________
>
> I have had good experiences (including fast shipping) with both
> avatarmusic and Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland.
>
> Frank Decolvenaere
> To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.
>
> "You are no bigger than
> the things that annoy you."
> Jerry Bundsen

I've used Presto and MDT in the past.

I can order the thing from N Carolina for $11.98 + $2.98 shipping and
have the thing by Monday, or I can order it from Avatar or any number
of UK distributors, pay $7.98 + $4.98 shipping and have delivered take
two to three weeks.

====================================================

If you buy through Amazon as marketplace seller, avatarmusic is
selling the Sony set (new) for $7.41+ >$2.98< shipping and
Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland for $7.51+ $2.98 shipping. My experience
for them (through Amazon) has been 10 days - 2 weeks for receipt
(NY) from order date. I guess it all depends on how anxious you are
to hear the set and what your "time" is worth to you.

Frank Decolvenaere
To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.

"You are no bigger than
the things that annoy you."
Jerry Bundsen



Prince Myshkin

2/10/2012 6:06:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 12:47 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 9:43 am, "Praetorius" <praetoriusN...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > wkasimer wrote:
> > Mark S wrote:
> > > I'm thinking of ordering this set through Amazon (a domestic
> > > distributor has it for $11).
>
> > Mark, a couple of the UK sellers are pretty reliable (particularly
> > Avatar).  They obviously take a little longer (some of them a LOT
> > longer), but I've never had a problem ordering from them.
>
> > [snip]
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > I have had good experiences (including fast shipping) with both
> > avatarmusic and Sent2u_by_HTS-Scotland.
>
> > Frank Decolvenaere
> > To reply by e-mail, replace NMBR with 1612.
>
> >   "You are no bigger than
> >    the things that annoy you."
> >             Jerry Bundsen
>
> I've used Presto and MDT in the past.
>
> I can order the thing from N Carolina for $11.98 + $2.98 shipping and
> have the thing by Monday, or I can order it from Avatar or any number
> of UK distributors, pay $7.98 + $4.98 shipping and have delivered take
> two to three weeks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And if by "NC" you mean the seller MovieMars, my experience is that
you certainly won't have it by Monday and maybe not even the Monday
after that. I use them if the price is right, and it occasionally is,
but they have often been sloooow, if they even actually have the
item. On more than one occasion that has happened to me with them
(not having the item, I mean), and it took them forever to acknowledge
that the order was placed and subsequently cancel it. It just sits
there in limbo. Meanwhile I could have been ordering and listening
from someone else. Just sayin' . . .