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XZealot

9/7/2010 11:23:00 PM

Deck Name : Black Voices of Pain
Author : Norman S. Brown, Jr
Description :
This is an !Brujah anarch deck based around pot/obt with combat
permanents

Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.30769
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4x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
2x Jacko 8 CEL POT PRE obt !Brujah:2
2x Jeremiah Noble 6 CEL POT obt pre !Brujah:3
2x Mitchell, The Head 2 obt pot Pander:2
1x Sela 6 POT PRE cel obt bishop !Brujah:2
2x Sela Adv 7 POT PRE cel obt archbishop !Brujah:2

Library [90 cards]
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Action [18]
4x Black Metamorphosis
1x Epiphany
5x Flurry of Action
2x Heroic Might
2x Preternatural Strength
4x War Party

Action Modifier [11]
7x Iron Glare
4x Voter Captivation

Combat [34]
5x Hell-for-Leather
10x Immortal Grapple
4x Street Cred
13x Taste of Vitae
2x Thrown Sewer Lid

Master [16]
3x Fame
1x Flames of Insurrection
2x Frontal Assault
4x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Los Angeles
5x Villein

Political Action [8]
4x Kine Resources Contested
4x Reckless Agitation

Reaction [3]
3x Lost in Translation

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Sep 07 18:22:22 2010]

7 Answers

Jozxyqk

9/8/2010 12:37:00 AM

XZealot <xzealot@cox.net> wrote:
> 4x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> 2x Jacko 8 CEL POT PRE obt !Brujah:2
> 2x Jeremiah Noble 6 CEL POT obt pre !Brujah:3
> 2x Mitchell, The Head 2 obt pot Pander:2
> 1x Sela 6 POT PRE cel obt bishop !Brujah:2
> 2x Sela Adv 7 POT PRE cel obt archbishop !Brujah:2
....

> Action Modifier [11]
> 7x Iron Glare
> 4x Voter Captivation

What, no Power of One?

Juggernaut1981

9/8/2010 12:39:00 AM

On Sep 8, 9:22 am, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> Deck Name : Black Voices of Pain
> Author : Norman S. Brown, Jr
> Description :
> This is an !Brujah anarch deck based around pot/obt with combat
> permanents

Action Modifier [11]
7x Iron Glare
4x Voter Captivation

Political Action [8]
4x Kine Resources Contested
4x Reckless Agitation

Honestly, I'm surprised you have the Vote-Module in this. I could see
most of those Voter Caps & Pol Actions being Scalpel Tongues or other
anti-vote... maybe light intercept for use with the untaps you're
probably planning on getting from Flurry of Action. I'd keep the Iron
Glares for Bleed Mods and to use in a pinch when something hits the
table you can vote-away.

Dasein

9/8/2010 5:59:00 AM

On Sep 8, 10:36 am, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > 4x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> > 2x Jacko 8 CEL POT PRE obt !Brujah:2
> > 2x Jeremiah Noble 6 CEL POT obt pre !Brujah:3
> > 2x Mitchell, The Head 2 obt pot Pander:2
> > 1x Sela 6 POT PRE cel obt bishop !Brujah:2
> > 2x Sela Adv 7 POT PRE cel obt archbishop !Brujah:2
>
> ...
>
> > Action Modifier [11]
> > 7x Iron Glare
> > 4x Voter Captivation
>
> What, no Power of One?

Especially as Power of One at pot is super awesome; one of the only
bleed mods in the game that doesn't restrict playing another. So you
can pump with Power of One and then Iron Glare.
I'm with Juggernaut, I'd ditch the vote angle, focus on combat. 13
Tastes seem like a lot too. I'd drop a few for some more hell for
leathers.

hg

9/8/2010 6:39:00 AM

Dasein <dasein2600@hotmail.com> writes:

> On Sep 8, 10:36Â am, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> > XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > 4x Anarch Convert Â Â Â Â 1 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Caitiff:0
> > > 2x Jacko Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 8 Â CEL POT PRE obt Â Â Â Â Â Â !Brujah:2
> > > 2x Jeremiah Noble Â Â Â Â 6 Â CEL POT obt pre Â Â Â Â Â Â !Brujah:3
> > > 2x Mitchell, The Head Â Â 2 Â obt pot Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Pander:2
> > > 1x Sela Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 6 Â POT PRE cel obt Â bishop Â Â !Brujah:2
> > > 2x Sela Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Adv 7 Â POT PRE cel obt Â archbishop !Brujah:2
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Action Modifier [11]
> > > Â 7x Iron Glare
> > > Â 4x Voter Captivation
> >
> > What, no Power of One?
>
> Especially as Power of One at pot is super awesome; one of the only
> bleed mods in the game that doesn't restrict playing another. So you
> can pump with Power of One and then Iron Glare.
> I'm with Juggernaut, I'd ditch the vote angle, focus on combat. 13
> Tastes seem like a lot too. I'd drop a few for some more hell for
> leathers.

Remember that without Anarch Secession, Sela cannot play any anarch cards
ever.

So I guess the low ratio of anarch cards vs. non-anarch cards is a design
choice. If you want to up the ratio, then you better replace Sela with
someone else.

HG

Anton Dudko

9/8/2010 8:19:00 AM

There may be the problem with really fast and agressive predator. I
don't see any firm defense module. Ok Villein, how much blood do you
transfer from 6-8 cap vampires, considering Heroic Might, Black
Metamorphosis, Reckless Agitation, even Lost in Translation? . Your
blood will not recover so easy (even with 13 Tastes of Vitae, see
below). Voter Captivation may help in voteless table.
Also, there may be problem with recycle of combat cards. War Party
has
some weak points: we have only 1 archbishop, we need successful
action
and tap. Frontal Assault works against prey. Thats good, but problems
with predator still remain.
The combat module itself have weakness to maneuvers. You depend hard
on Heroic Might here (2 x Thrown Lids have a little opportunity to
appear in right time).

So all problems with pool defense and recycling resolve with
additional assault actions like bums rush, harass and so on.
Must be Archon Investigation. Maybe Two Wrongs.

- 2-3 Reckless Agitation (not a lot votes and blood)
- 2-3 War Party (not a lot archbishops or extra actions)
- 5 Taste of Vitae
- 2 Thrown Thewer Lids
- 3 Lost in Translation

+ 1 Hunting Ground
+ 4-6 Bums Rush
+ 7-8 Pursuit
+ 1 Archon Inestigation
+ 1 Giants Blood

Anton Dudko

9/8/2010 8:20:00 AM

malcolmsprye

9/9/2010 5:49:00 PM

On Sep 8, 4:18 am, Anton Dudko <tonych...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There may be the problem with really fast and agressive predator. I
> don't see any firm defense module. Ok Villein, how much blood do you
> transfer from 6-8 cap vampires, considering Heroic Might, Black
> Metamorphosis, Reckless Agitation, even Lost in Translation? . Your
> blood will not recover so easy (even with 13 Tastes of Vitae, see
> below). Voter Captivation may help in voteless table.
> Also, there may be problem with recycle of combat cards. War Party
> has
> some weak points: we have only 1 archbishop, we need successful
> action
> and tap. Frontal Assault works against prey. Thats good, but problems
> with predator still remain.
> The combat module itself have weakness to maneuvers. You depend hard
> on Heroic Might here (2 x Thrown Lids have a little opportunity to
> appear in right time).
>
> So all problems with pool defense and recycling resolve with
> additional assault actions like bums rush, harass and so on.
> Must be Archon Investigation. Maybe Two Wrongs.
>
> - 2-3 Reckless Agitation (not a lot votes and blood)
> - 2-3 War Party (not a lot archbishops or extra actions)
> - 5 Taste of Vitae
> - 2 Thrown Thewer Lids
> - 3 Lost in Translation
>
> + 1 Hunting Ground
> + 4-6 Bums Rush
> + 7-8 Pursuit
> + 1 Archon Inestigation
> + 1 Giants Blood

Here's a problem: you have no stealth. This means that unless you
already have a pret strength or heroic might, those black
metamorphoses are dead cards, as are alot of the bleeds. 0 stealth
action that almost anyone will want to block? Yah, that's not
happening. Your transient combat simply isn't scary until you have
the +strength actions. Each and every one of your vampires needs one
of those cards... and you only have 4 in the whole deck. You need to
increase the number of +str actions... cut the deck down to 80 cards,
and then see if you can reliably get 2 scary vampires. At that
point... you'll be able to worry about stuff like: how do I deal with
stealth bleed, but until you're reliably getting a big buff card on
each vampire, you're starting off at a huge handicap.

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Deck : Black Voices of Pain

XZealot

Jozxyqk

Juggernaut1981

Dasein

hg

Anton Dudko

Anton Dudko

malcolmsprye

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