On 06/15/2013 05:13 PM, Greegor wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2:27 pm, & <ampersand.the.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 06/15/2013 03:14 PM, Greegor wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 15, 12:44 pm, & <ampersand.the.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 06/15/2013 01:32 PM, Greegor wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Jun 15, 11:34 am, Topix Harlot Chris Tolles <jls1...@bellsouth.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Violence Against Men: Militant Feminism -- Restraining Order
>>>>>> Revolution -- Attack on the Bill of Rights -- Slouching Toward
>>>>>> Totalitarianism
>>
>>>>>> 1. When you get served with one of these devilish "stalking"
>>>>>> petitions, you have no right to attorney; you'll have to hire one at
>>>>>> $350/hr. and if you can't afford one, TS!
>>>>>> 2. Evidence is by the preponderance: 50% and a whiff is all the
>>>>>> proof needed, as opposed to "beyond a reasonable doubt" when charged
>>>>>> with a crime.
>>>>>> 3. You have NO right to jury trial; the judge who serves as attorney
>>>>>> for the "battered" woman finds the facts, or in my case, fabricates
>>>>>> them. They're trying to take away your right to a trial by jury!
>>>>>> 4. You have NO right to a transcript to rely on for an appeal to a
>>>>>> higher court.
>>>>>> 5. You have NO right to cross-examine. In my case the female judge,
>>>>>> Julie "Damaged Goods" Kepple, refused to allow me to cross-examine.
>>>>>> Every time I tried to ask a leading question, she would interrupt
>>>>>> before I could utter even as much as 4 or 5 words of the question.
>>>>>> 6. You will be trapped in a hurricane of an uncorroborated witness
>>>>>> lawsuit which claims DECEITFULLY to be a civil lawsuit when in fact
>>>>>> you have been charged with a crime; typically this hermaphrodite
>>>>>> lawsuit is a "she-said-he-said" prosecution, yes, falsely pretending
>>>>>> to be a civil, as opposed to criminal, lawsuit.
>>>>>> 7. In effect you have no right to appeal because all your appellate
>>>>>> safeguards have been shitcanned by a 3-branch government cabal whose
>>>>>> bible and money supply are the Violence Against Women Act.
>>>>>> 8. Videri quam esse -- To seem rather than to be, the new motto in my
>>>>>> state of NC: The state of show trials, sleazebag judges, and star
>>>>>> chambers.
>>>>>> 9. In law and in application the restraining order orgy in North
>>>>>> Carolina discriminates against the poor who have no resources to hire
>>>>>> a court reporter or an attorney.
>>>>>> 10. Men are now sacrificial lambs on the altar of militant feminism;
>>>>>> we have allowed ourselves to slouch into a police state.
>>>>>> 11. The conclusion in the evil syllogism sworn to by the woman (so
>>>>>> many of them narcissistic exhibitionists and psychos like Martha
>>>>>> Grist) is invariably the self-serving mantra, "I don't feel safe in my
>>>>>> home."
>
> G > What you describe is "administrative law".
> G
> G > This is strikingly similar to the "dependency court"
> G > (AKA Family Court or Juvenile Court)
> G > racket used by social services agencies to
> G > remove children under false circumstances
> G > and increase their agency funding.
> G >
> G > You discovered that they refer to it
> G > as Civil Law, which strongly implies
> G > to me that you are actually dealing with
> G > Administrative Law.
> G >
> G > The game they play is that since
> G > you did not lose any "Liberty Interest",
> G > meaning that you did not face incarceration,
> G > you were not entitled to the full protections
> G > described in the Bill Of Rights portion of
> G > the US Constitution.
> G >
> G > Typically such an "Order Of Protection"
> G > would also be used to snub your
> G > parental rights, directly or in the hands
> G > of the Child Protection agency in
> G > "their" dependency administraive law court.
> G >
> G > IF that is the case then the pretense
> G > that you are not entitled to full BOR
> G > "liberty interest" protection is a sham.
> G >
> G > If the complainant is an ex or ex-wife
> G > and there were no kids, then their
> G > administrative end run around the
> G > BOR "liberty interest" protections
> G > might actually hold up.
> G >
> G > Then it's merely a money/property matter.
> G >
> G > Got kids?
> G >
> G > It sounds like North Carolina has decided
> G > to use an administrative court
> G > Order of Protection to mark you as a
> G > domestic abuser without actually
> G > convicting you in a full criminal
> G > court process.
> G >
> G > It seems like a pre-emptive process.
> G > System sucks would call it "preventive" of course.
> G >
> G > Several years ago I spotted and seized
> G > a poster from my local Social Services
> G > office that asked women if their husbands
> G > were in any way restricting their spending
> G > they were "economically abused" and
> G > suggested the "domestic abuse option".
>
> & > big deal several minutes ago a
> & > bunch of guys complained to
> & > their friends. it will happen
> & > again in a few more minutes
>
> G > In court?
>
> & > full of shit ?
>
> Yes you are.
>
i win