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Byzar and Ex Nihilo - LSJ

Wedge

8/18/2010 4:34:00 PM

If Byzar w/ Ex Nihilo and some blood chooses not to burn the blood he
gains a counter and goes to torpor. Is the condition for Ex Nihilo
done or must he still burn until he is removed from the game? Can he
then choose too burn a blood? I have no idea you would want to do so,
just asking.

Byzar, 10, AUS FOR NEC OBF dom pre, Harbingers of Skulls, 6, [HttB]

Sabbat: If Byzar would be burned, put a burn counter on him and move
him to torpor instead. If he has three burn counters, remove him from
the game. +1 stealth.

Ex Nihilo, Action, 1 blood, Necromancy, R2 , [FN:R2]
+1 stealth action.
[nec] Put this card on this vampire. The vampire with this card gets
+1 stealth. Damage inflicted by this vampire in combat is reduced to
0, and this vampire is immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire
cannot gain blood; any blood this vampire gains goes to the blood bank
instead. During your master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is
burned. You may choose to burn this card during your untap phase.
[NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah`s
untap phase.
3 Answers

LSJ

8/18/2010 5:10:00 PM

0

On Aug 18, 12:34 pm, Wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If Byzar w/ Ex Nihilo and some blood chooses not to burn the blood he
> gains a counter and goes to torpor. Is the condition for Ex Nihilo
> done or must he still burn until he is removed from the game? Can he
> then choose too burn a blood? I have no idea you would want to do so,
> just asking.

It's done. You've applied the burn effect once already, and it's
worded as "During X, do Y".

> Byzar, 10, AUS FOR NEC OBF dom pre, Harbingers of Skulls, 6, [HttB]
>
> Sabbat: If Byzar would be burned, put a burn counter on him and move
> him to torpor instead. If he has three burn counters, remove him from
> the game. +1 stealth.
>
> Ex Nihilo, Action, 1 blood, Necromancy, R2 , [FN:R2]
> +1 stealth action.
> [nec] Put this card on this vampire. The vampire with this card gets
> +1 stealth. Damage inflicted by this vampire in combat is reduced to
> 0, and this vampire is immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire
> cannot gain blood; any blood this vampire gains goes to the blood bank
> instead. During your master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is
> burned. You may choose to burn this card during your untap phase.
> [NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah`s
> untap phase.

Demnogonis Saastuttaja

8/20/2010 10:50:00 AM

0

On 18 elo, 20:10, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> On Aug 18, 12:34 pm, Wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If Byzar w/ Ex Nihilo and some blood chooses not to burn the blood he
> > gains a counter and goes to torpor. Is the condition for Ex Nihilo
> > done or must he still burn until he is removed from the game? Can he
> > then choose too burn a blood? I have no idea you would want to do so,
> > just asking.
>
> It's done. You've applied the burn effect once already, and it's
> worded as "During X, do Y".
>
>
>
> > Byzar, 10, AUS FOR NEC OBF dom pre, Harbingers of Skulls, 6, [HttB]
>
> > Sabbat: If Byzar would be burned, put a burn counter on him and move
> > him to torpor instead. If he has three burn counters, remove him from
> > the game. +1 stealth.
>
> > Ex Nihilo, Action, 1 blood, Necromancy, R2 , [FN:R2]
> > +1 stealth action.
> > [nec] Put this card on this vampire. The vampire with this card gets
> > +1 stealth. Damage inflicted by this vampire in combat is reduced to
> > 0, and this vampire is immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire
> > cannot gain blood; any blood this vampire gains goes to the blood bank
> > instead. During your master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is
> > burned. You may choose to burn this card during your untap phase.
> > [NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah`s
> > untap phase.

Hey, does Byzar keep every card, counter and such if he burns and goes
to torpor with his special? I assumed he does since card text doesn't
say otherwise. And if somebody diablerizes him, what happens to his
blood/equipment, is the diablerie unsuccessful or not?

floppyzedolfin

8/20/2010 11:15:00 AM

0

On Aug 20, 12:49 pm, Demnogonis Saastuttaja <vihako...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On 18 elo, 20:10, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 12:34 pm, Wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > If Byzar w/ Ex Nihilo and some blood chooses not to burn the blood he
> > > gains a counter and goes to torpor. Is the condition for Ex Nihilo
> > > done or must he still burn until he is removed from the game? Can he
> > > then choose too burn a blood? I have no idea you would want to do so,
> > > just asking.
>
> > It's done. You've applied the burn effect once already, and it's
> > worded as "During X, do Y".
>
> > > Byzar, 10, AUS FOR NEC OBF dom pre, Harbingers of Skulls, 6, [HttB]
>
> > > Sabbat: If Byzar would be burned, put a burn counter on him and move
> > > him to torpor instead. If he has three burn counters, remove him from
> > > the game. +1 stealth.
>
> > > Ex Nihilo, Action, 1 blood, Necromancy, R2 , [FN:R2]
> > > +1 stealth action.
> > > [nec] Put this card on this vampire. The vampire with this card gets
> > > +1 stealth. Damage inflicted by this vampire in combat is reduced to
> > > 0, and this vampire is immune to non-aggravated damage. This vampire
> > > cannot gain blood; any blood this vampire gains goes to the blood bank
> > > instead. During your master phase, this vampire burns 1 blood or is
> > > burned. You may choose to burn this card during your untap phase.
> > > [NEC] As above, but you may burn this card during any Methuselah`s
> > > untap phase.
>
> Hey, does Byzar keep every card, counter and such if he burns and goes
> to torpor with his special? I assumed he does since card text doesn't
> say otherwise.
He doesn't burn. He goes to torpor instead. Vampires keep cards and
counters on them when they go to torpor.

> And if somebody diablerizes him, what happens to his
> blood/equipment, is the diablerie unsuccessful or not?
Diablerie is unsuccessful.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/bdef64...
No equipment is moved. No blood is moved.