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LSJ: The Oath on someone else's Taste of Vitae?

OldFan

7/5/2010 4:15:00 AM

So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear
cut answer.

Which may be because it's a dumb question, but here goes anyways:

"Dear LSJ,
Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both)
of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath
as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires,
neither of which I control?

Sincerely, gamer on crack in Ithaca, NY"

My thinking being - the text on the Oath doesn't specify that Taste of
Vitae must be played against one of your vampires (unlike the blood
theft, which expressly DOES specify that).

As a plain red/combat card, The Oath wouldn't have to do so - you only
play red cards during your own vampires' combats (with a few
exceptions that say so in their text box).

But being playable as a reaction means that lack of text (along with
the "or" that separates the taste of vitae from "steals blood from
this vampire") has the "play as written/PaW" side of my gamer brain
wondering. But that could be the crack talking....

The Oath
combat
reaction

Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood
from this vampire. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire
may put another oath counter on that vampire as a (D) action. A
vampire with 2 oath counters from this vampire cannot block or enter
combat with this vampire. A vampire can play only one Oath each round.
4 Answers

The Lasombra

7/5/2010 5:54:00 AM

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On Sun, 4 July 2010 21:14:52 -0700 (PDT), OldFan wrote:

>So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear
>cut answer.

Card text is pretty clear from here.
Blood must be tasted or stolen from the vampire playing the card.


> Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both)
>of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath
>as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires,
>neither of which I control?

No.
Card text of first sentence of the card.

>The Oath
>combat
>reaction
>Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood
>from THIS VAMPIRE. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire
>may put another oath counter on that vampire as a (D) action. A
>vampire with 2 oath counters from this vampire cannot block or enter
>combat with this vampire. A vampire can play only one Oath each round.

Haze

7/5/2010 6:07:00 AM

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On Jul 4, 11:14 pm, OldFan <asif.i.chaud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear
> cut answer.
>
> Which may be because it's a dumb question, but here goes anyways:
>
> "Dear LSJ,
>          Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both)
> of the vampires play Taste of Vitae.  Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath
> as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires,
> neither of which I control?
>
> Sincerely, gamer on crack in Ithaca, NY"
>
> My thinking being - the text on the Oath doesn't specify that Taste of
> Vitae must be played against one of your vampires (unlike the blood
> theft, which expressly DOES specify that).
>
> As a plain red/combat card, The Oath wouldn't have to do so - you only
> play red cards during your own vampires' combats (with a few
> exceptions that say so in their text box).
>
> But being playable as a reaction means that lack of text (along with
> the "or" that separates the taste of vitae from "steals blood from
> this vampire") has the "play as written/PaW" side of my gamer brain
> wondering.  But that could be the crack talking....
>
> The Oath
> combat
> reaction
>
> Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood
> from this vampire. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire
> may put another oath counter on that vampire as a (D) action. A
> vampire with 2 oath counters from this vampire cannot block or enter
> combat with this vampire. A vampire can play only one Oath each round.

ah, I see what you're trying to do here. I think you might be right,
they're two different conditions, and taste of vitae isn't played
"from" a vampire. however, even if that's true...

rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat
cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like
"power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during
combat. too bad.

LSJ

7/5/2010 1:57:00 PM

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On Jul 5, 2:06 am, Haze <headlessr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat
> cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like
> "power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during
> combat. too bad.

Correct.

Taste, being playable only in combat, means that The Oath would be
played in combat (and could thus only be played by a combatant).

Stealing blood may occur in combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
a combat card) or outside of combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
a reaction).

OldFan

7/5/2010 3:00:00 PM

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On Jul 5, 9:57 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2:06 am, Haze <headlessr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat
> > cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like
> > "power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during
> > combat. too bad.
>
> Correct.
>
> Taste, being playable only in combat, means that The Oath would be
> played in combat (and could thus only be played by a combatant).
>
> Stealing blood may occur in combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
> a combat card) or outside of combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
> a reaction).


Thanks for the answers gentlemen - that's all I needed to know!

(picks up pile of The Oath, and puts them back in the box of "these
are useless cards")

*whistling* :