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Juan Felipe

8/20/2006 11:53:00 PM


no castro: N O P R O B L E M !
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T.Schmidt

8/21/2006 12:51:00 AM

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Sigue soñando, algún día despertarás, si no te mueres antes.

T.Schmidt
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"Juan Felipe" <DeLaCruz@heaven.com> wrote in message
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> no castro: N O P R O B L E M !
>
>

JATorres

8/21/2006 3:03:00 AM

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A este se le olvida que gracias a Fidel el tiene trabajo; hablando y
escribiendo mierda - El dia que se muera Fidel se va a morir de hambre si es
que esta vivo...
/jat

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| T.Schmidt
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| > no castro: N O P R O B L E M !
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Jimbo

2/10/2010 7:25:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 1:22 am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Geode
>
>
>
>
>
> <leopoldo.perd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 9 feb, 16:42, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:23:58 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:04:12 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >alt.abortion with message-id <4b716ac9.20386...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:23:31 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
>
> >> >>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:19 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >>>alt.abortion with message-id <4b713b1c.8181...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >>>wrote:
>
> >> >>>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote=
> >:
>
> >> >>>>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >>>>>alt.abortion with message-id <4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >>>>>wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>>>Pregnancy is not a voluntary process. =A0Ask the women who wish to
> >> >>>>>>>become pregnant but do not.
>
> >> >>>>>>Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process. =A0
>
> >> >>>>>So is avoiding food poisoning. =A0Just don't eat.
>
> >> >>>>Or, eat carefully. =A0
>
> >> >>>That does not always work.
>
> >> >>Then you're not being careful enough.
>
> >> >Therefore everyone who has food poisoning was not careful enough and
> >> >does not deserve any medical treatment.
>
> >> Doesn't follow. =A0
>
> >> >>>>>>Ask the women who practise
> >> >>>>>>birth control. =A0Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth control.
>
> >> >>>>>Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >> >>>>Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >> >>>>infallible it may be.
>
> >> >>>Acceptable? =A0Who are you to say what is or is not acceptable to anyo=
> >ne
> >> >>>but yourself?
>
> >> >>Similarly, who are you to promote your pro-death agenda?
>
> >> >I promote nothing, much less any pro-death anything.
>
> >> You promote abortion. =A0You are pro-death by definition.
>
> >> > I simply support
> >> >the freedom of a pregnant woman to decide for herself what to do. =A0Why
> >> >would you force her to complete her pregnancy and not allow her to
> >> >choose
>
> >> Why would you allow her to abort her unborn child?
>
> >> >>>No reason or justification is required for the freedom of choice. =A0A
> >> >>>woman can simply make her decision based upon anything or nothing. And
> >> >>>for any reason or no reason.
>
> >> >>There is no justification for the 'freedom' to kill the unborn. =A0
>
> >> >There are no unborn and your comment is irrelevant.
>
> >> There are millions of unborn children who have been aborted.
>
> >This world is outrageously overpopulated.  There too many people
> >already in the world and too little resources.  Oil would be soon
> >exhausted and this would provoke a crisis thermonuclear war
> >proportions.  All this excess of people would be going down the drain.
> >About a seventh of the present population would survive in daring
> >conditions.  They would fight daily trying to find what to eat.
> >Perhaps, they would solve often their plight with cannibalism.  In the
> >end, the survivors we become hunter-gatherers.
> >So, I do not syntonize with your worries about abortion.  It is a
> >stupid nonsense.  The real sin is the alarming growth of the
> >population. The most poor countries of the world are those that faster
> >are growing.
> >Geode
>
> AIDS isn't working.  We need a new plague.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Preferably one that strikes the far right wingnut crowd.

Michael Ejercito

2/10/2010 8:39:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 10:46 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:21:02 -0800 (PST), Michael Ejercito
> <mejer...@hotmail.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <5b35a512-e6a2-429e-a19f-e41592d35...@a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 9, 10:22 pm, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:04:37 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >No, I promote the freedom of choice.  I could not care less what that
> >> >choice is.
>
> >> Freedom of "choice" means freedom to kill.
> >   Yes, it does.
>
> >   But does not the stage of development of the fetus affect the
> >ethical issues behind it? Could it be that at earlier stages of
> >development, the fetus has lesser value? I mean, abortion was never
> >treated as first-degree murder, even in jurisdictions where it was
> >illegal.
>
> It was never murder of any degree.
So what value does a fetus have?


Michael

Bolt Upright

2/10/2010 9:36:00 PM

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On 2/10/2010 3:38 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> On Feb 10, 10:46 am, Attila<<procho...@here.now> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:21:02 -0800 (PST), Michael Ejercito
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
>> <5b35a512-e6a2-429e-a19f-e41592d35...@a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 9, 10:22 pm, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:04:37 -0500, Attila<<prode...@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, I promote the freedom of choice. I could not care less what that
>>>>> choice is.
>>>>>
>>
>>>> Freedom of "choice" means freedom to kill.
>>>>
>>> Yes, it does.
>>>
>>
>>> But does not the stage of development of the fetus affect the
>>> ethical issues behind it? Could it be that at earlier stages of
>>> development, the fetus has lesser value? I mean, abortion was never
>>> treated as first-degree murder, even in jurisdictions where it was
>>> illegal.
>>>
>> It was never murder of any degree.
>>
> So what value does a fetus have?
>
It has whatever value its' mother assigns it.
What is your concern, Michael? Are you planning to become pregnant in
the near future?
>
> Michael
>

Jimbo

2/11/2010 1:06:00 PM

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On Feb 11, 12:25 am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:18:25 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 9, 1:16=A0pm, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:03:35 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Feb 9, 9:04=3DA0am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:23:31 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:19 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >> >alt.abortion with message-id <4b713b1c.8181...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >> >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrot=
> >e:
>
> >> >> >>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >> >>>alt.abortion with message-id <4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >> >>>wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>>Pregnancy is not a voluntary process. =3DA0Ask the women who wish=
> > to
> >> >> >>>>>become pregnant but do not.
>
> >> >> >>>>Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process. =3DA0
>
> >> >> >>>So is avoiding food poisoning. =3DA0Just don't eat.
>
> >> >> >>Or, eat carefully. =3DA0
>
> >> >> >That does not always work.
>
> >> >> Then you're not being careful enough.
>
> >> >> >>>>Ask the women who practise
> >> >> >>>>birth control. =3DA0Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth control=
> >.
>
> >> >> >>>Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >> >> >>Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >> >> >>infallible it may be.
>
> >> >> >Acceptable? =3DA0Who are you to say what is or is not acceptable to a=
> >nyone
> >> >> >but yourself?
>
> >> >> Similarly, who are you to promote your pro-death agenda?
>
> >> >What pro-death agenda?
>
> >> Yours. =A0Pro-choice =3D pro-death.
>
> >Nope, pro-choice =3D pro-choice, no more nor less than that.
>
> In other words, pro-death.

Nope, pro-choice. There are no other words for it, liar flomby.

duane

2/11/2010 2:22:00 PM

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On Feb 11, 8:25 am, fffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:06:19 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 11, 12:25=A0am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:18:25 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Feb 9, 1:16=3DA0pm, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:03:35 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Feb 9, 9:04=3D3DA0am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> >> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:23:31 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wro=
> >te:
> >> >> >> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:19 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >> >> >alt.abortion with message-id <4b713b1c.8181...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> w=
> >rot=3D
> >> >e:
>
> >> >> >> >>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) =
> >in
> >> >> >> >>>alt.abortion with message-id <4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat..or=
> >g>
> >> >> >> >>>wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >>>>>Pregnancy is not a voluntary process. =3D3DA0Ask the women who=
> > wish=3D
> >> > to
> >> >> >> >>>>>become pregnant but do not.
>
> >> >> >> >>>>Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process. =3D3DA0
>
> >> >> >> >>>So is avoiding food poisoning. =3D3DA0Just don't eat.
>
> >> >> >> >>Or, eat carefully. =3D3DA0
>
> >> >> >> >That does not always work.
>
> >> >> >> Then you're not being careful enough.
>
> >> >> >> >>>>Ask the women who practise
> >> >> >> >>>>birth control. =3D3DA0Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth co=
> >ntrol=3D
> >> >.
>
> >> >> >> >>>Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >> >> >> >>Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >> >> >> >>infallible it may be.
>
> >> >> >> >Acceptable? =3D3DA0Who are you to say what is or is not acceptable=
> > to a=3D
> >> >nyone
> >> >> >> >but yourself?
>
> >> >> >> Similarly, who are you to promote your pro-death agenda?
>
> >> >> >What pro-death agenda?
>
> >> >> Yours. =3DA0Pro-choice =3D3D pro-death.
>
> >> >Nope, pro-choice =3D3D pro-choice, no more nor less than that.
>
> >> In other words, pro-death.
>
> >Nope, pro-choice.  There are no other words for it, liar flomby.
>
> Pro-death is the *only* way to describe it, liar Jumbo.

Ass hole. You're position is indefensible. Religion is not a valid
reason.

Syd M.

2/11/2010 9:29:00 PM

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On Feb 9, 5:00 pm, Bolt Upright <Nobo...@home.com> wrote:
> On 2/9/2010 4:26 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 9:04 am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:23:31 -0500, Attila<<prode...@here.now>  wrote:
>
> >>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:19 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >>> alt.abortion with message-id<4b713b1c.8181...@news.x-privat.org>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila<<prode...@here.now>  wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >>>>> alt.abortion with message-id<4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Pregnancy is not a voluntary process.  Ask the women who wish to
> >>>>>>> become pregnant but do not.
>
> >>>>>> Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process.
>
> >>>>> So is avoiding food poisoning.  Just don't eat.
>
> >>>> Or, eat carefully.
>
> >>> That does not always work.
>
> >> Then you're not being careful enough.
>
> >>>>>> Ask the women who practise
> >>>>>> birth control.  Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth control.
>
> >>>>> Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >>>> Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >>>> infallible it may be.
>
> >>> Acceptable?  Who are you to say what is or is not acceptable to anyone
> >>> but yourself?
>
> >> Similarly, who are you to promote your pro-death agenda?
>
> >>> No reason or justification is required for the freedom of choice.  A
> >>> woman can simply make her decision based upon anything or nothing. And
> >>> for any reason or no reason.
>
> >> There is no justification for the 'freedom' to kill the unborn.  Once
> >> a woman becomes pregnant, she has already made her decision.
>
> > You don't get to make that decision for her.
>
> > PDW
>
> Precisely. A *man* is extremely unlikely to find himself pregnant, and
> it's awfully damned arrogant for a man to decide who should not
> terminate a pregnancy. This is a decision for the woman directly
> involved and her conscience, nobody else.

That is correct.
Now if we could get that through the heads of the fascists in the 'Pro-
lie' movement...

> Incidentally, a fetus is just that until it becomes sentient, and it
> doesn't become sentient until it breathes on its own, at which point it
> becomes a human infant. There are no "unborn babies" in the same manner
> that an egg is not an "unborn chicken".

Agreed.

PDW

Syd M.

2/11/2010 9:45:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 1:22 am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:16:50 -0800 (PST), "Syd M."
>
>
>
> <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 9, 5:40=A0am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >alt.abortion with message-id <4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >>>Pregnancy is not a voluntary process. =A0Ask the women who wish to
> >> >>>become pregnant but do not.
>
> >> >>Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process. =A0
>
> >> >So is avoiding food poisoning. =A0Just don't eat.
>
> >> Or, eat carefully. =A0
>
> >> >>Ask the women who practise
> >> >>birth control. =A0Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth control.
>
> >> >Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >> Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >> infallible it may be.
>
> >You don't get to make that decision.
>
> You don't get to give women a 'choice' to have their unborn killed.

And you don't get to make them carry an unwanted fetus, little control
freak.

PDW

Syd M.

2/11/2010 9:45:00 PM

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On Feb 10, 1:22 am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:26:30 -0800 (PST), "Syd M."
>
>
>
> <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 9, 9:04=A0am, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:23:31 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:19 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >alt.abortion with message-id <4b713b1c.8181...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:34:43 -0500, Attila <<prode...@here.now> wrote:
>
> >> >>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:21:13 GMT, ffor...@smythe.com (The Revd) in
> >> >>>alt.abortion with message-id <4b70eead.27283...@news.x-privat.org>
> >> >>>wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>Pregnancy is not a voluntary process. =A0Ask the women who wish to
> >> >>>>>become pregnant but do not.
>
> >> >>>>Avoiding pregnancy is a voluntary process. =A0
>
> >> >>>So is avoiding food poisoning. =A0Just don't eat.
>
> >> >>Or, eat carefully. =A0
>
> >> >That does not always work.
>
> >> Then you're not being careful enough.
>
> >> >>>>Ask the women who practise
> >> >>>>birth control. =A0Abortion is NOT a substitute for birth control.
>
> >> >>>Birth control is not infallible.
>
> >> >>Abortion is not an acceptable means of birth control, however
> >> >>infallible it may be.
>
> >> >Acceptable? =A0Who are you to say what is or is not acceptable to anyone
> >> >but yourself?
>
> >> Similarly, who are you to promote your pro-death agenda?
>
> >> >No reason or justification is required for the freedom of choice. =A0A
> >> >woman can simply make her decision based upon anything or nothing. And
> >> >for any reason or no reason.
>
> >> There is no justification for the 'freedom' to kill the unborn. =A0Once
> >> a woman becomes pregnant, she has already made her decision.
>
> >You don't get to make that decision for her.
>
> She has made that decision herself.

No.
You don't get to make that decision.

PDW