Shiflet
10/4/2013 6:40:00 PM
On 10/4/2013 12:33 PM, Aulë wrote:
> I've made some as pack-mules, but no. Give me your best cookie cutter
> for one and I'll give her a try.
Bowzon and Javazon both work well...bowzon needs a good bow, but other
than that, not real gear dependent. Getting decent resists can be tricky
in hell, but with a merc, valk, decoy, and dodge/avoid/evade, you'll
hopefully not be getting hit much regardless. Physical immunes will slow
you down, but can still be dealt with without too much trouble. Javazons
can clear packs faster and are MUCH stronger at boss killing(Charged
Strike excels here) and are likewise not real gear dependent, but
lightning immunes will in turn slow you down.
Cookie Cutter Bowzon:
20 Guided Arrow
20 Strafe or Multishot(both have their advantages, my zon maxes both but
it's not strictly needed...some people are content with lower level
multishot too, since extra points only increase the number of arrows,
not the actual damage of the skill)
20 Valk
1 in every other Passive/Magic skill, with any remaining points pumping
Pierce, Dodge, Avoid, Evade, and Critical Strike as you best see fit.
If you max Strafe and Multi this should basically cover your build. If
you decided not to do both, or spend less in multishot, I would max Fire
Arrow or Magic Arrow for use against PIs. Fire Arrow converts a portion
of your physical damage to fire damage, Magic Arrow does the same but
converts to magic damage. Fire Arrow converts more(41% at lvl 20 vs 20%
for MA), but monsters typically have more Fire Resist than Magic Resist,
so it's up to you which you want as your anti-PI skill. Magic Arrow has
the additional benefit of costing no mana at a certain skill level, and
doesn't use up an arrow from your quiver either. You'll also have 1
point in MA regardless, as it's a pre-req for the other bow skills you
use, whereas FA is not.
Javazon:
20 Charged Strike
20 Lightning Strike
20 Lightning Fury
20 Power Strike OR 20 Valk(some people like having a strong minion,
others prefer maxing their damage-mine went damage)
At least 1 in all Passive/Magic skills
Once you have the P/M tree where you want it, remaining points go into
Power Strike if you maxed Valk, whereas if you go the max damage route,
remaining points go in Lightning Bolt. Basic strategy, for really big
groups of mobs(Shenk's group, cows) use Lightning Fury. For smaller
groups of just a few mobs(say, a pack of 5-6 Fallen), use Lightning
Strike. For single targets, esp bosses, Charged Strike is your go to
attack. To deal with lightning immunes, use Jab(it's a pre-req so you'll
have a point regardless) to aid your merc and valk.
> I've only ever played the same sorc and pally.
Sorc and pally are my most played classes. I have 7 sorcs(and a lvl 87
mule that I will respec into a real toon as soon as I get gear together
for her) and a whopping 12 pallies currently active. One of the sorcs is
my primary rusher/baal and chaos runner/mfer, and one of the paladins is
invincible in PvM, I have personally fought a pack of fana minotaurs and
conviction gloams simultaneously and won, and I have entered an 8 player
uber tristram portal with all 3 bosses stacked there, and cleared it. No
matter what you need done in PvM, one of those 2 characters can do it.
> I branched out to try a Fury Werewolf this ladder.
> Interesting build, thought I don't have anywhere near a complete handle
> on it.
I have a Fury/Rabies wolf, but while he's well geared and works fine, I
don't play him often.
> (I'm stuck playing ladder because I'm all about finding my own loot, not
> trading.)
Much of my stuff was actually inherited. Lotta players(many from here,
couple I know from other places) have given me old gear when prior
ladders reset, and I've had weird luck when it comes to people giving
away stuff. I often join "free item" games, and most of the time you
join one, they're full and people are throwing out junk gear...but I've
hit several where there was only 1 or 2 people there, and the person who
created it was throwing out stuff like Spirit, Enigma, Infinity, etc.
I've also had 2 separate people who were complete strangers just up and
give me their account, one because he was impressed I had a bow pally,
the other because I "seemed cool", and the accounts had some really good
stuff on them.