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For Montygram: All Kooks can be Classified!

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 2:26:00 AM

Having analyzed the diet of Montygram
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/b45ab837c425f9...
I was able to officially classify Montygram as a Flatulence Kook. :)

And, I was also able today to update my published original research on
the Kooks who inhabit smn. :)

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
"# Persons with an abnormal fear of flatulence knock beans, legumes or
pulses. Bacteria in the intestines feeds upon a sugar, called
raffinose, found in beans causing gas. These people wrongly calm that
beans cause digestion problems because of this gas. In reality, any
plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
in their intestines. Furthermore, legumes are known as the fourth food
group in the healthy Cretan Mediterranean Diet."

This was the first update to my behavioral research on Kooks in smn
since 2002. I owe it all to Monty, and a bunch of smn Kooks who
unwittingly enabled me to nail Monty. :)

Furthermore, from analyzing Monty's diet it is also very obvious to me
that he is suffering from a form of IBS caused by an excess growth of
bacterial in the small intestine.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?ne...
http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/ibs...

Of course, anybody who has been keeping up with the published
literature would already know this.

You Flatulence Kooks will receive my bill in the morning.
--
Doc John
40 Answers

msamson11975@yahoo.ca

6/22/2006 3:20:00 AM

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Doc John wrote:
In reality, any
> plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> in their intestines.

Bullshit. Plant foods consist of 30-40% of my diet and I don't get
gas. Enter beans, grains, and starches and the gas commences. It has
nothing to do with "excess" bacteria at all. The bacteria in the gut
(primarily colon, as the small intestine doesn't have much bacteria)
simply have a field day on the offending foods, which probably isn't
the healthiest and safest thing.

Beans are a relatively recent food in the human diet. Most people
cannot tolerate them just like grains. THAT'S why people fart up a
storm eating them!

Juhana Harju

6/22/2006 6:17:00 AM

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msamson11975@yahoo.ca wrote:
: Doc John wrote:

:: In reality, any
:: plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
:: completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
:: also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
:: in their intestines.
:
: Bullshit. Plant foods consist of 30-40% of my diet and I don't get
: gas. Enter beans, grains, and starches and the gas commences. It has
: nothing to do with "excess" bacteria at all. The bacteria in the gut
: (primarily colon, as the small intestine doesn't have much bacteria)
: simply have a field day on the offending foods, which probably isn't
: the healthiest and safest thing.
:
: Beans are a relatively recent food in the human diet. Most people
: cannot tolerate them just like grains. THAT'S why people fart up a
: storm eating them!

It takes a while before the colon bacteria gets accustumed to a plant based
diet. Regular meat eaters have more unhealthy bacteroids in their colons
while people with mostly plant based diets develope a colon bacteria that
has more beneficial bifidus bacteria. When the colon bacteria has accustomed
to the change of diet there will be very little or no gas problems after
eating beans or other plant foods.

--
Juhana


johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 10:14:00 AM

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Doc John wrote:

> Having analyzed the diet of Montygram
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/b45ab837c425f9...
> I was able to officially classify Montygram as a Flatulence Kook. :)
>
> And, I was also able today to update my published original research on
> the Kooks who inhabit smn. :)
>
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
> "# Persons with an abnormal fear of flatulence knock beans, legumes or
> pulses. Bacteria in the intestines feeds upon a sugar, called
> raffinose, found in beans causing gas. These people wrongly calm that
> beans cause digestion problems because of this gas. In reality, any
> plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> in their intestines. Furthermore, legumes are known as the fourth food
> group in the healthy Cretan Mediterranean Diet."
>
> This was the first update to my behavioral research on Kooks in smn
> since 2002. I owe it all to Monty, and a bunch of smn Kooks who
> unwittingly enabled me to nail Monty. :)
>
> Furthermore, from analyzing Monty's diet it is also very obvious to me
> that he is suffering from a form of IBS caused by an excess growth of
> bacterial in the small intestine.
> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?ne...
> http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/ibs...
>
> Of course, anybody who has been keeping up with the published
> literature would already know this.
>
> You Flatulence Kooks will receive my bill in the morning.
> --
> Doc John

I, myself, invented the term 'Food Faddism.' Interestingly enough, I
originally had no intentions of doing so. Nevertheless I have been
more successful with 'Food Faddism' than with 'Medical Scientism' in
changing American culture. And, the reason is clear. Science Geeks
agree with Food Faddism, but they do not like the term 'Medical
Scientism.' I wonder why?

I, myself, evented the term 'Food Faddism.' This fact can be verified
at:
http://www.onelook.com/?w=food+faddis...
Until my sweet web page on original behavioral research the term did
not exist. :)

My web page ranks # 3 on 'food faddism' in the Google Search engine.
#1 is a clone of Wikipedia.
http://www.medicdirect.co...
#2 is Wikipedia, itself. Guess who's web page is cited in these
articles? Interestly enough, I never wrote or edited that web page in
Wikipedia.
--
Doc John

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 10:22:00 AM

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msamson11975@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Doc John wrote:
> In reality, any
> > plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> > completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> > also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> > in their intestines.
>
> Bullshit. Plant foods consist of 30-40% of my diet and I don't get
> gas. Enter beans, grains, and starches and the gas commences. It has
> nothing to do with "excess" bacteria at all. The bacteria in the gut
> (primarily colon, as the small intestine doesn't have much bacteria)
> simply have a field day on the offending foods, which probably isn't
> the healthiest and safest thing.

Ooooh, really? These bacterial don't eat vegetables then? They must
be Breatherians, since they can live on air until you consume beans,
grains, or starches?
--
Doc John

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 10:34:00 AM

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Juhana Harju wrote:
> msamson11975@yahoo.ca wrote:
> : Doc John wrote:
>
> :: In reality, any
> :: plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> :: completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> :: also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> :: in their intestines.
> :
> : Bullshit. Plant foods consist of 30-40% of my diet and I don't get
> : gas. Enter beans, grains, and starches and the gas commences. It has
> : nothing to do with "excess" bacteria at all. The bacteria in the gut
> : (primarily colon, as the small intestine doesn't have much bacteria)
> : simply have a field day on the offending foods, which probably isn't
> : the healthiest and safest thing.
> :
> : Beans are a relatively recent food in the human diet. Most people
> : cannot tolerate them just like grains. THAT'S why people fart up a
> : storm eating them!
>
> It takes a while before the colon bacteria gets accustumed to a plant based
> diet. Regular meat eaters have more unhealthy bacteroids in their colons
> while people with mostly plant based diets develope a colon bacteria that
> has more beneficial bifidus bacteria. When the colon bacteria has accustomed
> to the change of diet there will be very little or no gas problems after
> eating beans or other plant foods.

Ditto!

Montygram has been eating his horrible diet, all because this jerk has
not had his IBS properly treated the way mother nature intended it.
Ah! Another victim of conventional medicine?

As I my previous references clearly documented, Monty needs a shot of
antibiotics. Followed by a healthy diet and good probiotics.
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/pro_...
The antibiotics will kill off his excess bacterial in his small
intestine. The probiotics and healthy diet will re-establish the proper
flora balance in his intestines.

Monty 'the Flatulence Kook' has my condolences.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
--
Doc John

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 11:28:00 AM

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Doc John wrote:
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
> > "# Persons with an abnormal fear of flatulence knock beans, legumes or
> > pulses. Bacteria in the intestines feeds upon a sugar, called
> > raffinose, found in beans causing gas. These people wrongly claim that
> > beans cause digestion problems because of this gas. In reality, any
> > plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> > completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> > also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> > in their intestines. Furthermore, legumes are known as the fourth food
> > group in the healthy Cretan Mediterranean Diet."
> >
> I, myself, evented the term 'Food Faddism.' This fact can be verified
> at:
> http://www.onelook.com/?w=food+faddis...
> Until my sweet web page on original behavioral research the term did
> not exist. :)

Still do not believe Doc John?
See this piece of published research from Japan.
www.ffcr.or.jp/.../7bd44c20b0dc562649256502001b65e9/e7548536780bf07e49256d910008e807/$FILE/208(8)-1.pdf


"Summary
Food faddism is as an exaggerated belief in the impact of food and
nutrition on health and disease. Food faddists insist that food and
nutrition are more significant than science has established. Such
thinking frequently leads people to overestimate the beneficial effects
of some foods (e.g., whole grains such as unpolished rice) and condemn
others (e.g., refined sugars, flour and grains such as polished rice).
"

Which is ALMOST an obvious direct quote of my web page. Although a few
words have been changed changed around..
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
Thank goodness for the Web Archives run by Alexa which documents that
my web page was published long before 2003. :)

Should I sue for copyright infringement or just grin and bear it?

I think that I will take a closer look at this paper from Foods Food
Ingredients J. Jpn., Vol. 208, No.8, 2003.

One way or another this citation of my web page will be noted on my
site. :)
--
Doc John, striving to change both the American and Japanese culture.

johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com

6/22/2006 11:41:00 AM

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CORRECTION of the pdf hyperlink which is not exactly working correctly.

Doc John wrote:
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
> > "# Persons with an abnormal fear of flatulence knock beans, legumes or
> > pulses. Bacteria in the intestines feeds upon a sugar, called
> > raffinose, found in beans causing gas. These people wrongly claim that
> > beans cause digestion problems because of this gas. In reality, any
> > plant based diet will create flatulence since not everything is
> > completely digested. People who suffer from excess flatulence might
> > also be suffering from excess bacteria and a lack of the proper flora
> > in their intestines. Furthermore, legumes are known as the fourth food
> > group in the healthy Cretan Mediterranean Diet."
> >
> I, myself, evented the term 'Food Faddism.' This fact can be verified
> at:
> http://www.onelook.com/?w=food+faddis...
> Until my sweet web page on original behavioral research the term did
> not exist. :)

Still do not believe Doc John?
See this piece of published research from Japan.
www.ffcr.or.jp/.../7bd44c20b0dc562649256502001b65e9/e7548536780bf07e49256d910008e807/$FILE/208(8)-1.pdf
or see the HTML translation at:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:mP3YgrF71SkJ:www.ffcr.or.jp/zaidan/FFCRHOME.nsf/7bd44c20b0dc562649256502001b65e9/e7548536780bf07e49256d910008e807/%...(8)-1.pdf+food+faddism&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4&lr=lang_en|lang_fr|lang_de

"Summary
Food faddism is as an exaggerated belief in the impact of food and
nutrition on health and disease. Food faddists insist that food and
nutrition are more significant than science has established. Such
thinking frequently leads people to overestimate the beneficial effects
of some foods (e.g., whole grains such as unpolished rice) and condemn
others (e.g., refined sugars, flour and grains such as polished rice).
"

Which is ALMOST an obvious direct quote of my web page. Although a few
words have been changed changed around..
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/fa...
Thank goodness for the Web Archives run by Alexa which documents that
my web page was published long before 2003. :)

Should I sue for copyright infringement or just grin and bear it?

I think that I will take a closer look at this paper from Foods Food
Ingredients J. Jpn., Vol. 208, No.8, 2003.

One way or another this citation of my web page will be noted on my
site. :)
--
Doc John, striving to change both the American and Japanese culture.

msamson11975@yahoo.ca

6/22/2006 2:58:00 PM

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Juhana Harju wrote:
> It takes a while before the colon bacteria gets accustumed to a plant based
> diet. Regular meat eaters have more unhealthy bacteroids in their colons
> while people with mostly plant based diets develope a colon bacteria that
> has more beneficial bifidus bacteria. When the colon bacteria has accustomed
> to the change of diet there will be very little or no gas problems after
> eating beans or other plant foods.

I am a regular meat eater. Animal foods comprise about 60-70% of my
diet and plant foods 30-40%. I never have flatuence problems. Are you
saying because I eat meat regularily that I have unhealthy bacteroids?
I do eat alot of produce and don't get gas unless I eat beans and
grains, starches, etc.

I think the bottom line is that the colon bacteria have a field day on
starches. Beans or grains. Most of this shit goes heavily undigested
and therefore equals big logs of shit.

msamson11975@yahoo.ca

6/22/2006 3:00:00 PM

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Doc John wrote:
> msamson11975@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Ooooh, really? These bacterial don't eat vegetables then? They must
> be Breatherians, since they can live on air until you consume beans,
> grains, or starches?
> --
> Doc John

I didn't say they don't eat veggies. They obviously thrive on
starches. I don't get gas when I eat fruit or veggies.

msamson11975@yahoo.ca

6/22/2006 3:02:00 PM

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Doc John wrote:
> intestine. The probiotics and healthy diet will re-establish the proper
> flora balance in his intestines.

Wait a sec, isn't there virtually no bacteria in the small intestine?

http://www.biblelife.org... for IBS