Usa Forum - Congo: King Leopold statue lasts one day

Byker

2/4/2005 12:39:00 AM

Check this shit out: From grand unveiling (top story) to grand
disappearance (bottom story) in 24 hours. "Several people within the
government, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said President Joseph
Kabila ordered the statue taken down." Somehow I get the feeling that it
was removed not because it was reminiscent of the "horrors of colonial rule"
but because it reminded everyone that the only time Africoonia functioned
efficiently was when Whitey was running the show....
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Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST

Congo Re-Erects Statue of Hated King

KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late Belgian King Leopold II, whose
government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, has been
pulled from a garbage heap and re-erected in the capital to remind people of
the horrors of colonial rule.

"We are restoring the history of our country because a people without
history is a people without a soul," Minister of Culture Christophe Muzungu
said Thursday.

Muzungu said the statue was brought back to remind Congo's people of
colonial rule so "it never happens again." He said a plaque will be added
later to explain Leopold's legacy.

Late Wednesday, the 20-foot statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a
traffic circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named
for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.

Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump, where
it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.

On Thursday, several workers were perched near the king's shoulders,
chiseling away debris and corrosion that had collected while in the garbage
dump.

Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.

Belgian colonial officers punished the Congolese by beating them with whips
made from hippo hides, and chopping off their hands if they tried to escape
or didn't produce enough. It's estimated that as many as 10 million people
died.

Muzungu said the government will also soon erect a statue of Mobutu, the
pink champagne-sipping dictator who stole billions from the country over
three decades of rule, leaving the once-wealthy nation in tatters.

A statue will also be erected of Joseph Kasavubu, Congo's first president
after independence in 1960, Muzungu said.

Several people stood in the hot Kinshasa sun Thursday afternoon and watched
workers scrape the statue clean.

"It's not the right moment to take this kind of decision with a statue,"
said Mampuya Muta, who is 45 and unemployed. "Our country is tense right now
already. Our country is in its current state because Belgium and Westerners
raped it for years. They owe us."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2005/feb/03/0203...

Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST

Statue of Congo's Hated King Taken Down

KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late King Leopold II, whose Belgian
government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, was
mysteriously taken down Thursday, a day after it was re-erected to remind
people of the horrors of colonial rule.

The 20 foot statue went up late Wednesday in downtown Kinshasa after being
hauled from a garbage dump. Monique Pikinini, Congo's general secretary in
the Ministry of Arts and Culture, said it's not clear what happened to the
statue, though she believes it was taken down by the government.

Several people within the government, who spoke on the condition of
anonymity, said President Joseph Kabila ordered the statue taken down.

Earlier in the day, cultural minister Chris Muzungu said the statue had been
re-erected to remind Congo's people of the country's horrific colonial past,
so "it never happens again." He said a plaque was to be added later to
explain Leopold's legacy.

Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.

Late Wednesday, the statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a traffic
circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named for
named for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.

Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump where
it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.

Thursday night, a group of homeless street-kids practiced dance where the
statue had been re-erected.

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10 Answers

Jesus Christ the Holy Cunt Fucker

2/4/2005 5:13:00 AM

White colonialism

better erect the statue of Chavez

FrankB

2/4/2005 3:07:00 PM

great, it had nothing to do there anyway.
What a waste in money.

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Comicboards

2/8/2005 8:15:00 PM

Byker wrote:

> Check this shit out: From grand unveiling (top story) to grand
> disappearance (bottom story) in 24 hours. "Several people within the
> government, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said President Joseph
> Kabila ordered the statue taken down." Somehow I get the feeling that it
> was removed not because it was reminiscent of the "horrors of colonial rule"
> but because it reminded everyone that the only time Africoonia functioned
> efficiently was when Whitey was running the show....
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST
>
> Congo Re-Erects Statue of Hated King
>
> KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late Belgian King Leopold II, whose
> government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, has been
> pulled from a garbage heap and re-erected in the capital to remind people of
> the horrors of colonial rule.
>
> "We are restoring the history of our country because a people without
> history is a people without a soul," Minister of Culture Christophe Muzungu
> said Thursday.
>
> Muzungu said the statue was brought back to remind Congo's people of
> colonial rule so "it never happens again." He said a plaque will be added
> later to explain Leopold's legacy.
>
> Late Wednesday, the 20-foot statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a
> traffic circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named
> for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.
>
> Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump, where
> it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
> Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
> statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.
>
> On Thursday, several workers were perched near the king's shoulders,
> chiseling away debris and corrosion that had collected while in the garbage
> dump.
>
> Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
> of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
> in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
> often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
> work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.
>
> Belgian colonial officers punished the Congolese by beating them with whips
> made from hippo hides, and chopping off their hands if they tried to escape
> or didn't produce enough. It's estimated that as many as 10 million people
> died.
>
> Muzungu said the government will also soon erect a statue of Mobutu, the
> pink champagne-sipping dictator who stole billions from the country over
> three decades of rule, leaving the once-wealthy nation in tatters.
>
> A statue will also be erected of Joseph Kasavubu, Congo's first president
> after independence in 1960, Muzungu said.
>
> Several people stood in the hot Kinshasa sun Thursday afternoon and watched
> workers scrape the statue clean.
>
> "It's not the right moment to take this kind of decision with a statue,"
> said Mampuya Muta, who is 45 and unemployed. "Our country is tense right now
> already. Our country is in its current state because Belgium and Westerners
> raped it for years. They owe us."
>
> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2005/feb/03/0203...
>
>
>
> Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST
>
> Statue of Congo's Hated King Taken Down
>
> KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late King Leopold II, whose Belgian
> government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, was
> mysteriously taken down Thursday, a day after it was re-erected to remind
> people of the horrors of colonial rule.
>
> The 20 foot statue went up late Wednesday in downtown Kinshasa after being
> hauled from a garbage dump. Monique Pikinini, Congo's general secretary in
> the Ministry of Arts and Culture, said it's not clear what happened to the
> statue, though she believes it was taken down by the government.
>
> Several people within the government, who spoke on the condition of
> anonymity, said President Joseph Kabila ordered the statue taken down.
>
> Earlier in the day, cultural minister Chris Muzungu said the statue had been
> re-erected to remind Congo's people of the country's horrific colonial past,
> so "it never happens again." He said a plaque was to be added later to
> explain Leopold's legacy.
>
> Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
> of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
> in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
> often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
> work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.
>
> Late Wednesday, the statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a traffic
> circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named for
> named for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.
>
> Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump where
> it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
> Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
> statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.
>
> Thursday night, a group of homeless street-kids practiced dance where the
> statue had been re-erected.
>
> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2005/feb/03/0203...
>
>

That is alot longer than a statue of Bush would last.

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Musta Aasi

2/9/2005 12:24:00 AM

"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:3pmdnXinO4hRgJTfRVn-gA@comcast.com:

we know, we are f..... bastards

FrankB

2/9/2005 1:07:00 AM

It happens that Musta Aasi formulated :
> "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:3pmdnXinO4hRgJTfRVn-gA@comcast.com:
>
> we know, we are f..... bastards

At least, we know how to f*ck & f*ck it up

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Réjean Laflamme

2/9/2005 3:00:00 AM

FrankB a écrit :
> It happens that Musta Aasi formulated :
>
>> "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:3pmdnXinO4hRgJTfRVn-gA@comcast.com:
>>
>> we know, we are f..... bastards
>
>
> At least, we know how to f*ck & f*ck it up
>

Qu'est-ils disent dans cette étrange langue primitive ?

Réjean Laflamme

2/9/2005 3:02:00 AM

Jerry McEwen

2/9/2005 4:25:00 AM

Well I guess it's probably back in the sweltering, fly-infested
garbage dump where they found it. The real reason it may have been
brought back is to *divert* people's attention from the miserable
state of their country, which has been run into the ground by a series
of tinhorn dictators, and tied up in regional wars for no good reason.

Their leaders can blame long-gone Westerners all they want, but Congo
has been independent for nearly 5 decades now. And King Leopold, who
may indeed have ruled with an iron fist, has been dead nearly 100
years already! At some time, these folks need to look in the mirror,
step up to the plate and accept responsibility for their own fate.

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:39:03 GMT, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

>Check this shit out: From grand unveiling (top story) to grand
>disappearance (bottom story) in 24 hours. "Several people within the
>government, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said President Joseph
>Kabila ordered the statue taken down." Somehow I get the feeling that it
>was removed not because it was reminiscent of the "horrors of colonial rule"
>but because it reminded everyone that the only time Africoonia functioned
>efficiently was when Whitey was running the show....
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST
>
>Congo Re-Erects Statue of Hated King
>
>KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late Belgian King Leopold II, whose
>government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, has been
>pulled from a garbage heap and re-erected in the capital to remind people of
>the horrors of colonial rule.
>
>"We are restoring the history of our country because a people without
>history is a people without a soul," Minister of Culture Christophe Muzungu
>said Thursday.
>
>Muzungu said the statue was brought back to remind Congo's people of
>colonial rule so "it never happens again." He said a plaque will be added
>later to explain Leopold's legacy.
>
>Late Wednesday, the 20-foot statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a
>traffic circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named
>for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.
>
>Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump, where
>it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
>Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
>statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.
>
>On Thursday, several workers were perched near the king's shoulders,
>chiseling away debris and corrosion that had collected while in the garbage
>dump.
>
>Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
>of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
>in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
>often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
>work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.
>
>Belgian colonial officers punished the Congolese by beating them with whips
>made from hippo hides, and chopping off their hands if they tried to escape
>or didn't produce enough. It's estimated that as many as 10 million people
>died.
>
>Muzungu said the government will also soon erect a statue of Mobutu, the
>pink champagne-sipping dictator who stole billions from the country over
>three decades of rule, leaving the once-wealthy nation in tatters.
>
>A statue will also be erected of Joseph Kasavubu, Congo's first president
>after independence in 1960, Muzungu said.
>
>Several people stood in the hot Kinshasa sun Thursday afternoon and watched
>workers scrape the statue clean.
>
>"It's not the right moment to take this kind of decision with a statue,"
>said Mampuya Muta, who is 45 and unemployed. "Our country is tense right now
>already. Our country is in its current state because Belgium and Westerners
>raped it for years. They owe us."
>
>http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2005/feb/03/0203...
>
>
>
>Today: February 03, 2005 at 16:20:50 PST
>
>Statue of Congo's Hated King Taken Down
>
>KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - A statue of the late King Leopold II, whose Belgian
>government was responsible for the deaths of millions of Congolese, was
>mysteriously taken down Thursday, a day after it was re-erected to remind
>people of the horrors of colonial rule.
>
>The 20 foot statue went up late Wednesday in downtown Kinshasa after being
>hauled from a garbage dump. Monique Pikinini, Congo's general secretary in
>the Ministry of Arts and Culture, said it's not clear what happened to the
>statue, though she believes it was taken down by the government.
>
>Several people within the government, who spoke on the condition of
>anonymity, said President Joseph Kabila ordered the statue taken down.
>
>Earlier in the day, cultural minister Chris Muzungu said the statue had been
>re-erected to remind Congo's people of the country's horrific colonial past,
>so "it never happens again." He said a plaque was to be added later to
>explain Leopold's legacy.
>
>Leopold, who took control of Congo in 1885 and died in 1909, enslaved much
>of its people to collect rubber, which helped fuel the Industrial Revolution
>in the West. In Congo's interior, Belgian and Congolese colonial troops
>often burned and massacred entire villages that didn't comply with Leopold's
>work decrees, or simply didn't collect enough rubber.
>
>Late Wednesday, the statue of Leopold on a horse was put up in a traffic
>circle at one end of Kinshasa's June 30 Boulevard - the street named for
>named for the date of Congo's independence from Belgium.
>
>Muzungu said the government had pulled the statue from a garbage dump where
>it had been discarded in 1967, seven years after independence, by Mobutu
>Sese Seko, Congo's longtime dictator. Mobutu, overthrown in 1997, saw the
>statue as a reminder of Leopold's legacy.
>
>Thursday night, a group of homeless street-kids practiced dance where the
>statue had been re-erected.
>
>http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2005/feb/03/0203...
>

Fustigator

2/9/2005 10:20:00 PM

Vitae forma vocatur, Réjean Laflamme <rejean@cooptel.qc.ca>, die Tue, 08
Feb 2005 22:01:39 -0500, in littera
<d3fOd.90627$vO1.567526@nnrp1.uunet.ca> in foro soc.culture.belgium (et
aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>FrankB a écrit :
>> It happens that Musta Aasi formulated :
>>
>>> "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:3pmdnXinO4hRgJTfRVn-gA@comcast.com:
>>>
>>> we know, we are f..... bastards
>>
>>
>> At least, we know how to f*ck & f*ck it up
>>
>
>Qu'est-ce qu'ils disent dans cette langue primitive et vulgaire ?

Des conneries, comme d'hab...

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Fusti

Fustigator

2/9/2005 10:20:00 PM

Vitae forma vocatur, Musta Aasi <MustaAasi@bongbong.org>, die 9 Feb 2005
00:24:26 GMT, in littera
<Xns95F8E8D6149CMustaAasibongbongorg@130.133.1.18> in foro
soc.culture.belgium (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:3pmdnXinO4hRgJTfRVn-gA@comcast.com:
>
>we know, we are f..... bastards

Speak for yourself.

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Fusti

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Congo: King Leopold statue lasts one day

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