Usa Forum - Why They Won't Assimilate

sordo?

5/21/2007 7:57:00 PM

May 21, 2007

Why They Won't Assimilate
By Selwyn Duke
http://www.americant...

Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
Americans ourselves.

Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
native-born Americans are far different than they once were.

I've pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
difference.

Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear

Today's M&M influx (Moslems and Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
succor.

Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
disputes in Canada.

This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of most of yesteryear's
immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
only....

Looking at the American in the Mirror

Walt Kelly wrote, "We have met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
problem.

Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
governmental complicity in this problem ends.

Traditionally, Americans never relied on government to achieve most
goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
in your native land.

If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a treatment from the
proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
traded liberty for perversity.

America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.

A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
course?
The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll simply render
a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.

Contact Selwyn Duke

13 Answers

Jim Higgins

5/21/2007 10:59:00 PM

sordo ?@mini-tru.org wrote:
> May 21, 2007
>
> Why They Won't Assimilate
> By Selwyn Duke
> http://www.americant...
>
> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
> Americans ourselves.
>
> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
> native-born Americans are far different than they once were.
>
> I've pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
> difference.
>
> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear
>
> Today's M&M influx (Moslems and Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
> succor.
>
> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
> disputes in Canada.
>
> This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of most of yesteryear's
> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
> only....
>
> Looking at the American in the Mirror
>
> Walt Kelly wrote, "We have met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
> problem.
>
> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
> governmental complicity in this problem ends.
>
> Traditionally, Americans never relied on government to achieve most
> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
> in your native land.
>
> If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a treatment from the
> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
> traded liberty for perversity.
>
> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>
> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
> course?
> The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll simply render
> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>
> Contact Selwyn Duke
>

I have never been able to figure out a reason, other than pandering, to
have ballots in other languages. If they cannot read the ballot in
English then they have no business voting. Ever. I have been on the
other side of the language question when I was in Taiwan and while it
was nice that a fair number of the locals spoke English it never
occurred to me to *not* learn Chinese (Mandarin flavor) to communicate.
Now? They don't bother assimilating when our own government panders
to them by making everything available to them in Spanish. They are
just way too close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would
really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.

Al E. Gator

5/22/2007 6:05:00 AM

<sordo T@mini-tru.org> wrote in message
news:5bebrpF2skjvgU1@mid.individual.net...
> May 21, 2007
>
> Why They Won't Assimilate
what we really need to know is why, that's WHY Goobers,
why hillbillies have not progressed since they got their asses whooped in
1865,

still the same bunch of racist,arrogant, uneducated,losers, failures and
fuckups,
with big mouths and no balls,

what's up with these crackers ?

it must be due to the high level of incest and inbreeding among the southern
type conservatives,

I mean look at bush and cheney, talk about deliverance type hillbillies

Al E. Gator

5/22/2007 6:09:00 AM

"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
>> just way too close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would
> really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.

why don't you question the loyalty of Exxon,shell,
marathon,halliburton,general dynamics, am general, and the hillbilly
population that will
not support their losing bush by enlisting,
the armed forces recruiting ads are still aimed at blacks and Midwestern
farmers, both male and female,

maybe they've finally figured out what I've said forever :

" you can not win a war with a hillbilly led and infested military"

I think Patton or Eisenhower, maybe Sherman and Grant, and Lee said that
first

Thumper

5/22/2007 5:06:00 PM

On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:58:37 -0400, Jim Higgins
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:

>sordo ?@mini-tru.org wrote:
>> May 21, 2007
>>
>> Why They Won't Assimilate
>> By Selwyn Duke
>> http://www.americant...
>>
>> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
>> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
>> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
>> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
>> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
>> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
>> Americans ourselves.
>>
>> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
>> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
>> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
>> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
>> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
>> native-born Americans are far different than they once were.
>>
>> I've pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
>> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
>> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
>> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
>> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
>> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
>> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
>> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
>> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
>> difference.
>>
>> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear
>>
>> Today's M&M influx (Moslems and Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
>> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
>> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
>> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
>> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
>> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
>> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
>> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
>> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
>> succor.
>>
>> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
>> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
>> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
>> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
>> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
>> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
>> disputes in Canada.
>>
>> This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of most of yesteryear's
>> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
>> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
>> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
>> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
>> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
>> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
>> only....
>>
>> Looking at the American in the Mirror
>>
>> Walt Kelly wrote, "We have met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
>> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
>> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
>> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
>> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
>> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
>> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
>> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
>> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
>> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
>> problem.
>>
>> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
>> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
>> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
>> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
>> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
>> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
>> governmental complicity in this problem ends.
>>
>> Traditionally, Americans never relied on government to achieve most
>> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
>> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
>> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
>> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
>> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
>> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
>> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
>> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
>> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
>> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
>> in your native land.
>>
>> If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a treatment from the
>> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
>> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
>> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
>> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
>> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
>> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
>> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
>> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
>> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
>> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
>> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
>> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
>> traded liberty for perversity.
>>
>> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
>> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
>> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
>> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
>> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
>> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
>> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
>> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
>> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>>
>> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
>> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
>> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
>> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
>> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
>> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
>> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
>> course?
>> The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll simply render
>> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
>> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>>
>> Contact Selwyn Duke
>>
>
>
>I have never been able to figure out a reason, other than pandering, to
>have ballots in other languages. If they cannot read the ballot in
>English then they have no business voting. Ever.
Nonsense. There is no requirement that American citizens need to use
English.
The constitution gives all citizens the right to vote.
Thumper

> I have been on the
>other side of the language question when I was in Taiwan and while it
>was nice that a fair number of the locals spoke English it never
>occurred to me to *not* learn Chinese (Mandarin flavor) to communicate.
> Now? They don't bother assimilating when our own government panders
>to them by making everything available to them in Spanish. They are
>just way too close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would
>really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.

Jerry Okamura

5/22/2007 7:11:00 PM

I would think the real test of what this person is writing about, is to look
at what has happened to third or fourth generation Americans, and "if" the
same holds true for the vast majority of them, then I would think the
argument is valid. So, the question it seems to me is, does it apply to
those who future generations who are in America?

<sordo T@mini-tru.org> wrote in message
news:5bebrpF2skjvgU1@mid.individual.net...
> May 21, 2007
>
> Why They Won't Assimilate
> By Selwyn Duke
> http://www.americant...
>
> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
> Americans ourselves.
>
> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
> native-born Americans are far different than they once were.
>
> I've pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
> difference.
>
> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear
>
> Today's M&M influx (Moslems and Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
> succor.
>
> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
> disputes in Canada.
>
> This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of most of yesteryear's
> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
> only....
>
> Looking at the American in the Mirror
>
> Walt Kelly wrote, "We have met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
> problem.
>
> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
> governmental complicity in this problem ends.
>
> Traditionally, Americans never relied on government to achieve most
> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
> in your native land.
>
> If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a treatment from the
> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
> traded liberty for perversity.
>
> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>
> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
> course?
> The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll simply render
> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>
> Contact Selwyn Duke
>

Jerry Okamura

5/22/2007 7:17:00 PM

"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
> sordo ?@mini-tru.org wrote:
>> May 21, 2007
>>
>> Why They Won't Assimilate
>> By Selwyn Duke
>> http://www.americant...
>>
>> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
>> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
>> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
>> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
>> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
>> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
>> Americans ourselves.
>>
>> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
>> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
>> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
>> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
>> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
>> native-born Americans are far different than they once were. I've pointed
>> out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
>> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
>> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
>> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
>> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
>> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
>> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
>> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
>> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
>> difference.
>>
>> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear Today's M&M influx (Moslems and
>> Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
>> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
>> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
>> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
>> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
>> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
>> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
>> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
>> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
>> succor.
>>
>> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
>> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
>> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
>> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
>> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
>> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
>> disputes in Canada. This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of most
>> of yesteryear's
>> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
>> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
>> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
>> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
>> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
>> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
>> only....
>>
>> Looking at the American in the Mirror Walt Kelly wrote, "We have met
>> the enemy and he is us." The truth is
>> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
>> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
>> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
>> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
>> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
>> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
>> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
>> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
>> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
>> problem.
>>
>> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
>> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
>> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
>> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
>> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
>> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
>> governmental complicity in this problem ends. Traditionally, Americans
>> never relied on government to achieve most
>> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
>> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
>> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
>> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
>> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
>> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
>> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
>> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
>> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
>> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
>> in your native land. If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a
>> treatment from the
>> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
>> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
>> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
>> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
>> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
>> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
>> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
>> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
>> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
>> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
>> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
>> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
>> traded liberty for perversity.
>>
>> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
>> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
>> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
>> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
>> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
>> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
>> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
>> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
>> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>>
>> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
>> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
>> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
>> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
>> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
>> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
>> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
>> course? The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll simply
>> render
>> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
>> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>>
>> Contact Selwyn Duke
>>
>
>
> I have never been able to figure out a reason, other than pandering, to
> have ballots in other languages. If they cannot read the ballot in
> English then they have no business voting. Ever. I have been on the
> other side of the language question when I was in Taiwan and while it was
> nice that a fair number of the locals spoke English it never occurred to
> me to *not* learn Chinese (Mandarin flavor) to communicate. Now? They
> don't bother assimilating when our own government panders to them by
> making everything available to them in Spanish. They are just way too
> close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would really question the
> loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.

Don't you think that is a over simplification of the problem? We have
people born and raised in America who cannot read. Would you deny them
their constitutional right to vote, simply because they cannot read? We
allow people who come to this country to become citizens of this country,
and as far as I know, there is no requirement that they be fluent in
english, and as I understand the requirement, they do not have to be able to
read english fluently. Which means they are citizens, who therefore have
the Constitutional right, indeed duty to vote, and you want to deny them
that right, because they cannot read english? It would seem to me, "if"
that is what this country wants to do, then they should set the bar a whole
lot higher, about what it requires to become a citizen of this coutnry....

Jerry Okamura

5/22/2007 7:21:00 PM

"David R KE®©T" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:UNv4i.3627$y_7.2576@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
>>> just way too close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would
>> really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.
>
> why don't you question the loyalty of Exxon,shell,
> marathon,halliburton,general dynamics, am general, and the hillbilly
> population that will
> not support their losing bush by enlisting,
> the armed forces recruiting ads are still aimed at blacks and Midwestern
> farmers, both male and female,

Maybe because the white liberals are not the ones who are going to serve our
country? They would rather attack those who do want to make the sacrifice,
while they sit on the other side of the fence telling those who do decide to
serve what fools they are?
>
> maybe they've finally figured out what I've said forever :
>
> " you can not win a war with a hillbilly led and infested military"
>
> I think Patton or Eisenhower, maybe Sherman and Grant, and Lee said that
> first
>

Wasn't two of our biggest heros "hillbillies" i.e. York and Murphy?

Jim Higgins

5/22/2007 7:34:00 PM

Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
> "Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
>> sordo ?@mini-tru.org wrote:
>>> May 21, 2007
>>>
>>> Why They Won't Assimilate
>>> By Selwyn Duke
>>> http://www.americant...
>>>
>>> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
>>> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
>>> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
>>> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
>>> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
>>> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
>>> Americans ourselves.
>>>
>>> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
>>> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
>>> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
>>> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
>>> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
>>> native-born Americans are far different than they once were. I've
>>> pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
>>> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
>>> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
>>> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
>>> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
>>> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
>>> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
>>> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
>>> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear Today's M&M influx (Moslems and
>>> Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
>>> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
>>> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
>>> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
>>> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
>>> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
>>> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
>>> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
>>> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
>>> succor.
>>>
>>> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
>>> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
>>> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
>>> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
>>> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
>>> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
>>> disputes in Canada. This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of
>>> most of yesteryear's
>>> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
>>> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
>>> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
>>> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
>>> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
>>> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
>>> only....
>>>
>>> Looking at the American in the Mirror Walt Kelly wrote, "We have
>>> met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
>>> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
>>> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
>>> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
>>> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
>>> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
>>> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
>>> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
>>> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
>>> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
>>> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
>>> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
>>> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
>>> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
>>> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
>>> governmental complicity in this problem ends. Traditionally,
>>> Americans never relied on government to achieve most
>>> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
>>> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
>>> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
>>> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
>>> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
>>> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
>>> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
>>> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
>>> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
>>> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
>>> in your native land. If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a
>>> treatment from the
>>> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
>>> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
>>> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
>>> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
>>> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
>>> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
>>> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
>>> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
>>> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
>>> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
>>> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
>>> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
>>> traded liberty for perversity.
>>>
>>> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
>>> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
>>> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
>>> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
>>> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
>>> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
>>> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
>>> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
>>> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>>>
>>> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
>>> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
>>> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
>>> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
>>> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
>>> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
>>> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
>>> course? The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll
>>> simply render
>>> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
>>> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>>>
>>> Contact Selwyn Duke
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have never been able to figure out a reason, other than pandering,
>> to have ballots in other languages. If they cannot read the ballot in
>> English then they have no business voting. Ever. I have been on the
>> other side of the language question when I was in Taiwan and while it
>> was nice that a fair number of the locals spoke English it never
>> occurred to me to *not* learn Chinese (Mandarin flavor) to
>> communicate. Now? They don't bother assimilating when our own
>> government panders to them by making everything available to them in
>> Spanish. They are just way too close to their former (?) country of
>> loyalty. I would really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again)
>> recipients.
>
> Don't you think that is a over simplification of the problem? We have
> people born and raised in America who cannot read. Would you deny them
> their constitutional right to vote, simply because they cannot read? We
> allow people who come to this country to become citizens of this
> country, and as far as I know, there is no requirement that they be
> fluent in english, and as I understand the requirement, they do not have
> to be able to read english fluently. Which means they are citizens, who
> therefore have the Constitutional right, indeed duty to vote, and you
> want to deny them that right, because they cannot read english? It
> would seem to me, "if" that is what this country wants to do, then they
> should set the bar a whole lot higher, about what it requires to become
> a citizen of this coutnry....

If a citizen does not put forth the effort to learn to read and write
then, IMHO, they have no business voting, they cannot assimilate the
information necessary to perform their duty. Why should laziness be
rewarded with full citizenship? Counterproductive. Fluency must/should
be a basic requirement. In an aside I am much given to a line from the
movie "Starship Troopers"-"Service Guarantees Citizenship".
IOW a person should do something for the benefits they receive, no
silver platter, TANSTAAFL (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch).

Thumper

5/22/2007 9:08:00 PM

On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:34:20 -0400, Jim Higgins
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>
>> "Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
>>> sordo ?@mini-tru.org wrote:
>>>> May 21, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Why They Won't Assimilate
>>>> By Selwyn Duke
>>>> http://www.americant...
>>>>
>>>> Today's immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Ted Kennedy's
>>>> Immigration Reform Act of 1965 has created a situation in which 85
>>>> percent of our immigrants hail from the Third World and Asia. This
>>>> portends the destruction of the western civilization that has given us
>>>> everything we hold dear, from our freedom to our prosperity, not for
>>>> reasons of race, but because of circumstances at least partly created by
>>>> Americans ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon setting foot on
>>>> American terra firma. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two
>>>> conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to
>>>> assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so.
>>>> Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and
>>>> native-born Americans are far different than they once were. I've
>>>> pointed out that a nation allows its stabilizing majority to
>>>> disappear at its own peril (unprecedented Third World immigration has
>>>> reduced America's European-heritage population from almost 90 percent to
>>>> about 66 percent in just a little more than four decades). But a critic
>>>> could rightly mention that white Americans weren't always viewed so
>>>> monolithically. When our nation saw a huge influx of Irish, Italian and
>>>> German immigrants, there was often great group conflict; ethnic slurs
>>>> passed lips and fights were not uncommon (amazing how they negotiated
>>>> this period without "hate crime" laws, huh?). Yet, there was a
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> Immigrants: Today vs. Yesteryear Today's M&M influx (Moslems and
>>>> Mexicans) is distinguished from previous
>>>> immigrant waves by a sense of entitlement. A Zogby poll found that 58
>>>> percent of Mexicans believe California and the Southwest rightly belong
>>>> to them. Although this belief is bred by a tendentious view of history,
>>>> it doesn't change the end result. It has spawned groups such as
>>>> Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), which advocates
>>>> conquering the Southwest in the name of Mexico. More significantly, it
>>>> causes many average Mexicans to have no compunction about imposing their
>>>> culture and language on the country that has so generously given them
>>>> succor.
>>>>
>>>> Where Mexicans exhibit ethnic patriotism, Moslems manifest religious
>>>> chauvinism. Far too many pious Moslems believe they have been enjoined
>>>> to impose their faith on others by any means necessary; this is why they
>>>> will unabashedly demand concessions, such as their own dormitories at
>>>> colleges and an Arabic public school in New York City. It's also why
>>>> they have fought for the right to use sharia law to settle civil
>>>> disputes in Canada. This lies in stark contrast to the behavior of
>>>> most of yesteryear's
>>>> immigrants. Like anyone else, they certainly felt comfortable in the
>>>> bosom of their own subculture; yet, they knew they were in another's
>>>> land and never viewed accommodation by their host nation as a
>>>> birthright, and any ethnic patriotism harbored was often trumped by the
>>>> dream of becoming American. Unfortunately, today's immigrants' dream is
>>>> often our nightmare, one from which we could arise if only, if only, if
>>>> only....
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the American in the Mirror Walt Kelly wrote, "We have
>>>> met the enemy and he is us." The truth is
>>>> that when assigning blame, our feet are where the majority of it must
>>>> lie. There was a time when Americans, like most nationalities, took
>>>> pride in their culture and defended it with manly fortitude. Today,
>>>> though, after decades of imbuing the modern mind with the "Hey, hey, ho,
>>>> ho, western culture's gotta go!" mentality, this is no longer the case.
>>>> Too many of us have imbibed the multiculturalist malt, with its
>>>> evenhanded principle stating that others have a right to their cultures
>>>> and we have a right to them, too. But this philosophical shift has been
>>>> addressed before, so let's discuss a nuts and bolts aspect of the
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Many of us understand how government actively thwarts assimilation by
>>>> pandering to foreign elements. Our government will print official
>>>> documents in other languages (the standard California driver's license
>>>> test is available in 32 of them) just so those without enough respect to
>>>> learn our national common tongue can collect our national treasure and
>>>> cast votes for those who lavish it upon them. But this isn't where
>>>> governmental complicity in this problem ends. Traditionally,
>>>> Americans never relied on government to achieve most
>>>> goals, and ensuring assimilation was no exception. Many years ago, for
>>>> instance, if a person insisted on dressing like an advertisement for the
>>>> Middle Ages, didn't learn the language or sought to impose strange
>>>> beliefs in the workplace, he would have been fired or not hired in the
>>>> first place. What this means is that the Moslem clerks and cab drivers
>>>> who, respectively, won't ring up pork and won't pick up passengers with
>>>> alcohol or seeing-eye dogs would have either changed their ways or
>>>> returned to where ways don't change. This enforcement of tradition
>>>> through individual initiative is what almost every non-western country
>>>> does and makes sense. If you're so enamored of your native ways, stay
>>>> in your native land. If you tried this today, though, you'd receive a
>>>> treatment from the
>>>> proctologist of government bureaucracies, the Equal Employment
>>>> Opportunity Commission. Yes, because freedom of association has been
>>>> trumped by lawless judges, citizens have lost control over their
>>>> businesses, rental properties and, in many cases, organizations.
>>>> Privately owned and financed entities can no longer determine who
>>>> receives paychecks, who will be served and who will be rented to, thus
>>>> removing the social pressure to conform that the common man would
>>>> naturally apply via the exercise of his values in his castle. Likewise,
>>>> local school boards have been robbed of the right to set dress codes and
>>>> behavior standards reflecting the surrounding community. What this
>>>> means is now you can't refuse to hire a cross-dressing Columbian from
>>>> Cartagena. Ah, it sounds almost Jeffersonian... almost. We've now
>>>> traded liberty for perversity.
>>>>
>>>> America is being erased. The stabilizing majority that forged her
>>>> unique culture is being eroded through the importation of culturally
>>>> imperialistic forces by treasonous politicians. And traitors they are,
>>>> and be not faint-hearted in saying so. After all, if this happened
>>>> anywhere but in western nations, the lamentation over this cultural
>>>> imperialism would be staggering. Just imagine if the majority
>>>> population of Nigeria or Cambodia were rapidly being replaced with a
>>>> European one. The only question would be whether the nation they hailed
>>>> from would be targeted by only stupid bureaucrats or also smart bombs.
>>>>
>>>> A wise person once said a definition of insanity is ". . . doing the
>>>> same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This
>>>> aphorism has been attributed variously to Ben Franklin, Albert Einstein,
>>>> and for all I know, Chief Seattle. Given that we have a greatly
>>>> diminished sense of national identity, Moslem terrorists blending into a
>>>> multicultural mish-mash, Spanish supplanting English, and Mexican flags
>>>> going up while American ones come down, should we really stay the
>>>> course? The M&M invasion sympathizers may call me names, but I'll
>>>> simply render
>>>> a diagnosis: They're insane. They have turned immigration into an
>>>> institution. It's time for it to be institutionalized.
>>>>
>>>> Contact Selwyn Duke
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have never been able to figure out a reason, other than pandering,
>>> to have ballots in other languages. If they cannot read the ballot in
>>> English then they have no business voting. Ever. I have been on the
>>> other side of the language question when I was in Taiwan and while it
>>> was nice that a fair number of the locals spoke English it never
>>> occurred to me to *not* learn Chinese (Mandarin flavor) to
>>> communicate. Now? They don't bother assimilating when our own
>>> government panders to them by making everything available to them in
>>> Spanish. They are just way too close to their former (?) country of
>>> loyalty. I would really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again)
>>> recipients.
>>
>> Don't you think that is a over simplification of the problem? We have
>> people born and raised in America who cannot read. Would you deny them
>> their constitutional right to vote, simply because they cannot read? We
>> allow people who come to this country to become citizens of this
>> country, and as far as I know, there is no requirement that they be
>> fluent in english, and as I understand the requirement, they do not have
>> to be able to read english fluently. Which means they are citizens, who
>> therefore have the Constitutional right, indeed duty to vote, and you
>> want to deny them that right, because they cannot read english? It
>> would seem to me, "if" that is what this country wants to do, then they
>> should set the bar a whole lot higher, about what it requires to become
>> a citizen of this coutnry....
>
>If a citizen does not put forth the effort to learn to read and write
>then, IMHO, they have no business voting, they cannot assimilate the
>information necessary to perform their duty.

Once again you are showing your disdain for the constitution.
Thumper

> Why should laziness be
>rewarded with full citizenship? Counterproductive. Fluency must/should
>be a basic requirement.
Not according to the constitution.
Thumper

> In an aside I am much given to a line from the
>movie "Starship Troopers"-"Service Guarantees Citizenship".
>IOW a person should do something for the benefits they receive, no
>silver platter, TANSTAAFL (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch).

Al E. Gator

5/23/2007 5:53:00 AM

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:465342b4$0$4723$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "David R KE®©T" <ho.ho@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:UNv4i.3627$y_7.2576@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1354915kpf6qla6@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> just way too close to their former (?) country of loyalty. I would
>>> really question the loyalty of these amnesty (again) recipients.
>>
>> why don't you question the loyalty of Exxon,shell,
>> marathon,halliburton,general dynamics, am general, and the hillbilly
>> population that will
>> not support their losing bush by enlisting,
>> the armed forces recruiting ads are still aimed at blacks and Midwestern
>> farmers, both male and female,
>
> Maybe because the white liberals are not the ones who are going to serve
> our country? They would rather attack those who do want to make the
> sacrifice, while they sit on the other side of the fence telling those who
> do decide to serve what fools they are?

serve our country ??

you mean like bush,cheney,limbaugh, rove and yourself did ??

by doing what ? cutting and running from the war and the draft,

actually most veterans are liberals, conservatives usually don't have any
guts,
looks at bush,cheney,rove,limbaugh

>> maybe they've finally figured out what I've said forever :
>>
>> " you can not win a war with a hillbilly led and infested military"
>>
>> I think Patton or Eisenhower, maybe Sherman and Grant, and Lee said that
>> first
>>
>
> Wasn't two of our biggest heros "hillbillies" i.e. York and Murphy?

they weren't hillbillies, they were liberals

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